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florida08

(4,106 posts)
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 10:53 AM Oct 2013

GAME ALMOST OVER: Boehner To Let The Senate Debt Ceiling Deal Come To The Floor

Source: Bussiness Insider

The 2013 debt ceiling crisis and federal government shutdown are almost over.

House Speaker John Boehner has agreed to take up the Senate's plan to raise the nation's borrowing limit and reopen the government, National Review's Robert Costa reports. Boehner will allow the bill to pass with mostly Democratic votes.




Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/debt-ceiling-senate-deal-plan-reid-mcconnell-boehner-house-vote-shutdown-2013-10

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GAME ALMOST OVER: Boehner To Let The Senate Debt Ceiling Deal Come To The Floor (Original Post) florida08 Oct 2013 OP
All the while making a complete fool of the USA .... MindMover Oct 2013 #1
Is that going to be a totally clean, no-strings-attached bill? groundloop Oct 2013 #2
the latter. robinlynne Oct 2013 #3
Right Wing Idiots have Lost. They Lost Bad, Humiliating, Overwhelming...Great!!!!!!!!! Stuart G Oct 2013 #4
As Cruz shops for book deal: "How to Ruin your Political Career Without Molesting a Minor" nt wtmusic Oct 2013 #5
lmfao Soylent Brice Oct 2013 #9
!!! cyberswede Oct 2013 #17
Heh. +1 lumberjack_jeff Oct 2013 #21
Cool... Treasury Department will still be able to use "extraordinary measures" Ellipsis Oct 2013 #6
So we're facing a Valentine Day's massacre next February? Aw, shit. freshwest Oct 2013 #8
That restriction would clearly have been a violation of the 14th amendment, imo. yellowcanine Oct 2013 #10
It is official: John Boehner has jumped the shark. yellowcanine Oct 2013 #7
I am never going to forgive these idiots for what they have put this country through. hamsterjill Oct 2013 #11
Ditto Dopers_Greed Oct 2013 #15
Welcome to DU Dopers_Greed Lochloosa Oct 2013 #20
Welcome to DU gopiscrap Oct 2013 #24
you are not alone florida08 Oct 2013 #27
CAREFUL: That schmuck Cruz may still try to filibuster in the Senate. DinahMoeHum Oct 2013 #12
was just about to type that florida08 Oct 2013 #14
That would be the icing on the cake for his legacy. ffr Oct 2013 #16
Somebody should "accidentally" lock him in the bathroom Liberalynn Oct 2013 #25
GOP caves! Hooray! warrenswil Oct 2013 #13
Next headline we will see: "Cruz meets with Boehner. Boehner now says no vote" AlinPA Oct 2013 #18
yes I don't trust any of them nt maryellen99 Oct 2013 #19
Announcement in about 15 minutes time dipsydoodle Oct 2013 #22
Wait, I'm rooting for the assholes, now! sofa king Oct 2013 #23
Who are those Heritage Action Guys? BlueInPhilly Oct 2013 #26

groundloop

(11,519 posts)
2. Is that going to be a totally clean, no-strings-attached bill?
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 10:57 AM
Oct 2013

Or is it the one that Reid and McConnell are currently negotiating?

If the former, great! If the latter, probably less great.

Ellipsis

(9,124 posts)
6. Cool... Treasury Department will still be able to use "extraordinary measures"
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 11:02 AM
Oct 2013

The aide also said that under the deal, the Treasury Department will still be able to use "extraordinary measures" to work around the debt ceiling in the case that it is not raised by Feb. 7. This was a key White House priority.

yellowcanine

(35,699 posts)
10. That restriction would clearly have been a violation of the 14th amendment, imo.
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 11:09 AM
Oct 2013

Because it would indeed be questioning the validity of the public debt.

Section 4. The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned.

yellowcanine

(35,699 posts)
7. It is official: John Boehner has jumped the shark.
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 11:03 AM
Oct 2013

It was scary for a moment there but I cleared that sucker with room to spare.

hamsterjill

(15,221 posts)
11. I am never going to forgive these idiots for what they have put this country through.
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 11:10 AM
Oct 2013

And I'm going to use every moment afforded me (and I live in Texas, so that should be quite a few!!!) to chastise anyone who will admit to having voted for these fools.

Boehner could have stopped this farce long before this point.

Dopers_Greed

(2,640 posts)
15. Ditto
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 11:25 AM
Oct 2013

I live in Texas as well. Next time I talk to any of my RW relatives, I can be sure they will moan about the shutdown. I am giddy at the prospect of getting to inform them that they voted for Cruz. They likely did the "All republican" option on their ballot, so they may not even know that they put him in office.

florida08

(4,106 posts)
27. you are not alone
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 12:34 PM
Oct 2013

Why we miss Kay Bailey Hutchison

We're not sure how much difference one person could make in the toxic, chaotic, hyperpartisan atmosphere in Washington, but if we could choose just one it would be Hutchison, whose years of service in the Senate were marked by two things sorely lacking in her successor, Ted Cruz.


http://www.chron.com/opinion/editorials/article/Why-we-miss-Kay-Bailey-Hutchison-4898405.php?cmpid=opedhprr

warrenswil

(60 posts)
13. GOP caves! Hooray!
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 11:22 AM
Oct 2013

Catastrophe is 24 hours away and what’s happening in Congress looks like a circus.
I am still optimistic a deal will be made: the Republicans will cave.
We said so in
GIGANTIC MISCALCULATION: As rats flee sinking ship, GOP will cave on impasse.
Their base is deserting them, they are plunging in the polls.
If the Democrats hold firm, the Tea Party is history.
In the (K)now

maryellen99

(3,789 posts)
19. yes I don't trust any of them nt
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 11:33 AM
Oct 2013

Even if this bill passes, I think the economy has been significantly damaged anyway.

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
22. Announcement in about 15 minutes time
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 11:49 AM
Oct 2013

according to Sky News who are keeping a link open in readiness.

Now says Fiscal Deal expected at 5pm UK time.

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
23. Wait, I'm rooting for the assholes, now!
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 11:54 AM
Oct 2013

If Republicans can just take this to the wire--if they can just touch the default line for a second, I am convinced that some national security provision kicks in which permits--perhaps compels--the President to coerce Congress, somehow, into backing the plan that The President proposes.

I think that the President's plan is the best possible deal we're going to get this year, one better--perhaps far better--than any compromise which can reached with Republicans. I've noticed most of his remarks in recent days have been translated into Senate legislation, but if just one Republican Senator decides to screw everyone over by running out the clock, we get EVERYTHING we want and they get less than nothing.

I'm also rooting for some secret provision which allows the President to shoot Republicans for destabilizing the economy in time of war and national emergency. But that's probably wishful thinking.

BlueInPhilly

(870 posts)
26. Who are those Heritage Action Guys?
Wed Oct 16, 2013, 12:30 PM
Oct 2013

Will they be coming in from under the rocks again to stop a deal? Who are they anyway, and why are they so powerful? (Sorry, no time to Google them nor ponder their importance)

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