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Redfairen

(1,276 posts)
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 04:57 PM Oct 2013

Elizabeth Warren to Wall Street Regulators: Put Big Bank CEOs in Jail

Source: Mother Jones

This past weekend, the Department of Justice slapped a record fine on JPMorgan Chase for packaging and selling the mortgage-backed financial products that helped cause the financial meltdown. But Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) wants the administration to know that fines are not enough. On Wednesday, she called on Wall Street regulators to hold all those responsible for the 2008 crisis accountable.

In a letter to the Federal Reserve, the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) and the Officer of the Comptroller of the Currency (OCC), Warren lauded the overseer of the TARP bailout program for cracking down on financial industry players who wasted, stole, or abused the federal emergency funds doled out to banks during the financial crisis, and implied that the three banking regulators should also punish individuals who helped cause the financial meltdown.

Although the budget for TARP's inspector general was "a small fraction of the size of the budgets and staffs at your agencies," Warren pointed out, the program's watchdog has brought criminal charges against nearly 100 senior executives; obtained criminal convictions on 107 defendants, including 51 jail sentences; and suspended or banned 37 people from working in the banking industry.

How about you guys, Warren asked. She called on the Fed, the SEC, and the OCC to provide records on the number of people the agencies have charged criminally and civilly, the number of convictions and prison sentences they have obtained, the number of people banned or suspended from working in the industry, and the total amount of fines leveled against Wall Street ne'er-do-wells.



Read more: http://m.motherjones.com/mojo/2013/10/elizabeth-warren-letter-wall-street-jail

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Elizabeth Warren to Wall Street Regulators: Put Big Bank CEOs in Jail (Original Post) Redfairen Oct 2013 OP
Good idea, but contrary to Obama Administration policy. AnotherMcIntosh Oct 2013 #1
Ms. Warren is America's Senator. Jack Rabbit Oct 2013 #2
I'm in Oklahoma and she's the only Senator I have madokie Oct 2013 #18
I would adopt her... Sophiegirl Oct 2013 #25
Dear Mommy, Treant Oct 2013 #60
Uhhhhh... Sophiegirl Oct 2013 #67
Move to Massachusetts. merrily Oct 2013 #37
Better yet, let's elect her president in 2016. JDPriestly Oct 2013 #41
While I think that would be awesome, she actually may be more effective in the senate. nt Fla Dem Oct 2013 #55
I'd trade DiFi for Sen. Warren any day! tblue Oct 2013 #56
You must be in California, too Jack Rabbit Oct 2013 #61
Overdue colsohlibgal Oct 2013 #3
Shoplifters get years in jail. Octafish Oct 2013 #4
Shoplifters should incorporate. Jerry442 Oct 2013 #24
warren is a dem i could believe in questionseverything Oct 2013 #5
We can only dream of watching these crooks get hauled off to jail. Brigid Oct 2013 #6
Amen.... Swede Atlanta Oct 2013 #7
I Really- ruffburr Oct 2013 #8
How about Warren and Clinton? sulphurdunn Oct 2013 #16
OK I'm good with that too! ruffburr Oct 2013 #22
Ms. Clinton wouldnt settle for VP, IMHO. nm rhett o rick Oct 2013 #35
Precisely. sulphurdunn Oct 2013 #51
Clinton is supported by the bankers. I don't think she would pick Warren to run with her. JDPriestly Oct 2013 #42
I agree......nt Enthusiast Oct 2013 #48
I agree. We need a break from the corporatist Democrats. But they run the Party at least rhett o rick Oct 2013 #52
Clinton's time has run out RC Oct 2013 #54
#1 reason to perfect human cloning. ffr Oct 2013 #9
Haha! Perfect! nt tblue Oct 2013 #57
Pecora 2.0 ? jakeXT Oct 2013 #10
She's the one. nt Zorra Oct 2013 #11
And yet every day in every state you can witness a Latino or African American in cuffs for sticking LuckyLib Oct 2013 #12
+100000 Skin color and ethnicity do make a difference. JDPriestly Oct 2013 #43
"Sticking up" used to imply an armed robbery. colorado_ufo Oct 2013 #65
HUGE K & R !!! WillyT Oct 2013 #13
if a person robs a bank, they go to jail, If a bank robs a person, no jail. Sounds right to me. olddad56 Oct 2013 #14
MAN, that's a great meme! I'd love to see that on a bumpersticker, olddad56! calimary Oct 2013 #70
Thank you Elizabeth! Scuba Oct 2013 #15
Let us hear it for Elizabeth Warren...That is the truth..put them in jail.. Stuart G Oct 2013 #17
For contrast: Under CA's odious 3-Strikes Law, non-violent felons received life without parole. radhika Oct 2013 #19
She is my heroine! Rebellious Republican Oct 2013 #20
K&R ReRe Oct 2013 #21
Lock em up. JimboBillyBubbaBob Oct 2013 #23
Not sending them to Jail, Promotes more Lawbreaking fascisthunter Oct 2013 #26
+1 grahamhgreen Oct 2013 #44
They didn't have enough money .. Stellar Oct 2013 #27
Love her. K&R NealK Oct 2013 #28
It's imperative for the future of our country that we do exactly that Corruption Inc Oct 2013 #29
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Oct 2013 #30
she is a great senator ! nt steve2470 Oct 2013 #31
Go get 'em, Liz! Utopian Leftist Oct 2013 #32
She is in a very good place. I'm glad she didn't run for President. She actually has more power libdem4life Oct 2013 #33
Warren gets it Babel_17 Oct 2013 #34
Bravo Elizabeth SoapBox Oct 2013 #36
I'm still watching and reserving judgment. merrily Oct 2013 #38
My sig line says it all!!! blue14u Oct 2013 #39
I want to reintroduce a sentencing idea I had. Half-Century Man Oct 2013 #40
I Love Elizabeth Warren! supercats Oct 2013 #45
K&R DeSwiss Oct 2013 #46
K&R Enthusiast Oct 2013 #47
I'm not a big fan of jailing people Live and Learn Oct 2013 #49
President Elizabeth Warren. . .first female American President. Has a nice ring to it Nanjing to Seoul Oct 2013 #50
K&R! nt raouldukelives Oct 2013 #53
K & R; What she said. TheJames Oct 2013 #58
Do US senators get a security detail? Ms. Warren is pissing Flatulo Oct 2013 #59
Wouldn't it be great blue-wave Oct 2013 #62
If she doesn't run for President this time, President Obama should appoint her AG. silvershadow Oct 2013 #63
Treat them like drug dealers..... Hotler Oct 2013 #64
This is why They will never allow her to become AG. n/t Orsino Oct 2013 #66
that record fine Marblehead Oct 2013 #68
K&R woo me with science Oct 2013 #69

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
2. Ms. Warren is America's Senator.
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 05:05 PM
Oct 2013

Too many of us have at least one senator who speaks only for the 1%. Can't those of us who don't live in Massachusetts adopt Ms. Warren as our Senator?

Sophiegirl

(2,338 posts)
25. I would adopt her...
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 07:25 PM
Oct 2013

...except, I think we are the same age. Shoot, I could try anyway. Would be awesome to have a daughter like her!!!



Edit: No offense to my own daughter! You are the chips to my salsa and much more, honey!!

Sophiegirl

(2,338 posts)
67. Uhhhhh...
Fri Oct 25, 2013, 01:43 AM
Oct 2013


Now I know where that Ipecac went.

It's okay honey. I still love you and so will your new sissy, Liz. Trust me....or at least, trust her.


Fla Dem

(27,635 posts)
55. While I think that would be awesome, she actually may be more effective in the senate. nt
Thu Oct 24, 2013, 10:15 AM
Oct 2013

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
61. You must be in California, too
Thu Oct 24, 2013, 12:41 PM
Oct 2013

That's exactly who I had in mind in post 2.

Not all agents of the 1% are Tea Baggers.

colsohlibgal

(5,276 posts)
3. Overdue
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 05:23 PM
Oct 2013

This was banking fraud 101, there should have been a 24/7 perp walk channel set up to watch those responsible be led out in cuffs. Not underlings, executives came up with the scams.

BTW the rating agencies had to be in on the scam or at the very least liable, labeling these toxic financial instruments AAA. They were totally culpable in causing big losses in pensions, who tends to require safer, AAA investments - expecting them to really be AAA.

Jerry442

(1,265 posts)
24. Shoplifters should incorporate.
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 07:17 PM
Oct 2013

That way, they'd get the same deal the banksters do: give up a fraction of their profits and no jail time.

 

Swede Atlanta

(3,596 posts)
7. Amen....
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 05:27 PM
Oct 2013

We need to start CRIMINALLY prosecuting Wall Street and others for their crimes.

The "little" billions of dollars in fines is NOT ENOUGH. Those fines will be paid for, not by the criminals that nearly destroyed our economy, but by depositors and investors.

We must IMPRISON those responsible and strip them of their wealth. If their families end up on food stamps and welfare, so be it. Then their war on the poor might get new visibility in their eyes. We must confront these criminals with something that means something to them - their "freedom" and ability to subject more pain on more persons.

I suggest a prison cell of say 10 x 8 with an hour a day to shower and exercise for 50 years is about right. Anything less than this is a travesty.

ruffburr

(1,190 posts)
8. I Really-
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 05:27 PM
Oct 2013

Would hope that Clinton and Warren would find a way to run together in 2016, It would energize the base and all reasonable thinking people to get out and Vote. And Dump the good ol boy bullshit down the toilet.

 

sulphurdunn

(6,891 posts)
51. Precisely.
Thu Oct 24, 2013, 08:41 AM
Oct 2013

IMHO, a presidential candidate should be someone who at least has reservations about applying for the job.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
42. Clinton is supported by the bankers. I don't think she would pick Warren to run with her.
Thu Oct 24, 2013, 02:18 AM
Oct 2013

I want Warren without Clinton. Why Clinton? She has so many negatives.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
52. I agree. We need a break from the corporatist Democrats. But they run the Party at least
Thu Oct 24, 2013, 09:16 AM
Oct 2013

at the national level.

 

RC

(25,592 posts)
54. Clinton's time has run out
Thu Oct 24, 2013, 10:08 AM
Oct 2013

As you said, Hillary is supported by the bankers and Wall Street.

jakeXT

(10,575 posts)
10. Pecora 2.0 ?
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 05:40 PM
Oct 2013

The Pecora Investigation was an inquiry begun on March 4, 1932 by the United States Senate Committee on Banking and Currency to investigate the causes of the Wall Street Crash of 1929. The name refers to the fourth and final chief counsel for the investigation, Ferdinand Pecora.

The investigation was launched by a majority-Republican Senate, under the Banking Committee's chairman, Senator Peter Norbeck. Hearings began on April 11, 1932, but were criticized by Democratic Party members and their supporters as being little more than an attempt by the Republicans to appease the growing demands of an angry American public suffering through the Great Depression. Two chief counsels were fired for ineffectiveness, and a third resigned after the committee refused to give him broad subpoena power. In January 1933, Ferdinand Pecora, an assistant district attorney for New York County was hired to write the final report. Discovering that the investigation was incomplete, Pecora requested permission to hold an additional month of hearings. His exposé of the National City Bank (now Citibank) made banner headlines and caused the bank's president to resign. Democrats had won the majority in the Senate, and the new President, Franklin D. Roosevelt, urged the new Democratic chairman of the Banking Committee, Senator Duncan U. Fletcher, to let Pecora continue the probe. So actively did Pecora pursue the investigation that his name became publicly identified with it, rather than the committee's chairman.

...

In 1939 Ferdinand Pecora published a memoir that recounted details of the investigations, Wall Street Under Oath. Pecora wrote: "Bitterly hostile was Wall Street to the enactment of the regulatory legislation." As to disclosure rules, he stated that "Had there been full disclosure of what was being done in furtherance of these schemes, they could not long have survived the fierce light of publicity and criticism. Legal chicanery and pitch darkness were the banker's stoutest allies."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pecora_Commission

LuckyLib

(7,052 posts)
12. And yet every day in every state you can witness a Latino or African American in cuffs for sticking
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 05:47 PM
Oct 2013

up a 7-11. Jail time for them? Of course. The suits who steal on a large scale? No way. Our two-tier justice system. Ain't it grand?

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
43. +100000 Skin color and ethnicity do make a difference.
Thu Oct 24, 2013, 02:21 AM
Oct 2013

So does how much money you have to pay your lawyers. If you are the wrong color or the wrong social class, you will probably be lucky to have an overworked public defender to help you bargain a guilty plea.

If you are a well-heeled banker with a corporation backing you, you can hire a team of the Ivy League's best.

Justice in America. Sorry. Born poor, you lose.

colorado_ufo

(6,252 posts)
65. "Sticking up" used to imply an armed robbery.
Thu Oct 24, 2013, 02:56 PM
Oct 2013

No matter how much money is involved, $3 or $3M or $3B, that does not compare with deliberately threatening to take another person's life or putting that life in danger. Black, white, Asian, Latino, Pacific Islander, whatever -- this should be jail time.

That being said, "the suits" should be their cellmates.

olddad56

(5,732 posts)
14. if a person robs a bank, they go to jail, If a bank robs a person, no jail. Sounds right to me.
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 05:51 PM
Oct 2013

calimary

(90,050 posts)
70. MAN, that's a great meme! I'd love to see that on a bumpersticker, olddad56!
Sun Oct 27, 2013, 02:10 AM
Oct 2013

Like that a LOT!!!

Likewise for Senator Warren! I love thinking about her as the SENIOR Senator from Massachusetts. It just sounds so great, and a lot more clout-worthy. I love the noise she's making, the questions she's asking, the can of worms she's opening. These assholes BELONG in jail. And not some cushy "Club Fed," either!

radhika

(1,008 posts)
19. For contrast: Under CA's odious 3-Strikes Law, non-violent felons received life without parole.
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 06:22 PM
Oct 2013

All of their priors (some as stale as 20 years past) were non-violent and low ticket. Here are some examples I recall:

Selling or possessing minor amounts of drugs
Stealing video tapes worth approximately $7.00
Shoplifting pizza from a convenience store.

There is a big difference between underwriting the Prison Industrial Complex and being under its thumb.

(Some luckless felons have been released over the years, thanks to courts and budget problems. But you get my point.)

 

fascisthunter

(29,381 posts)
26. Not sending them to Jail, Promotes more Lawbreaking
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 07:42 PM
Oct 2013

All criminals need to do is pay a fine... and their fines are less than the profits they make, which means, "Crime does pay".

 

Corruption Inc

(1,568 posts)
29. It's imperative for the future of our country that we do exactly that
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 08:03 PM
Oct 2013

Otherwise the criminals just keep committing crimes. Too bad our corrupt political system is paid to overlook that simple fact.

Utopian Leftist

(534 posts)
32. Go get 'em, Liz!
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 08:49 PM
Oct 2013

She's not only doing the right thing, she is doing the long-neglected will of the people! And the people will reward her for it, too, wait and see....

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
33. She is in a very good place. I'm glad she didn't run for President. She actually has more power
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 08:56 PM
Oct 2013

doing what she is doing. Doubt it's any coincidence that JP Morgan paid, even if a pittance, some fines lately. Also, sold their Manhattan Plaza building. Good news. More to come.

Babel_17

(5,400 posts)
34. Warren gets it
Wed Oct 23, 2013, 10:23 PM
Oct 2013

The fines are not personally paid by these criminals. Doing time they understand.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
38. I'm still watching and reserving judgment.
Thu Oct 24, 2013, 12:03 AM
Oct 2013

But, I can't help but smile every time I read what she says.

I try to stop myself, but I can't.

Half-Century Man

(5,279 posts)
40. I want to reintroduce a sentencing idea I had.
Thu Oct 24, 2013, 01:17 AM
Oct 2013

Assign a mandatory sentence according to dollar value of a crime.
For every one hundred thousand dollars involved in a crime a one year sentence is imposed.

If you steal $81,000.00 you serve the time for burglary. If you stick up a bank and make off with $123,000.00, you serve out the sentence for armed robbery and 1 year. If you defraud your contributors with a fake charity, netting yourself 1.5 million dollars; you serve off embezzlement time plus 15 years. If you defraud investors with toxic mortgages and/or investment and steal a billion dollars, your family can claim your body in ten thousand years,

 

supercats

(429 posts)
45. I Love Elizabeth Warren!
Thu Oct 24, 2013, 02:37 AM
Oct 2013

Just one more reason why I love her!!! God I wish she would run in 2016!!!

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
49. I'm not a big fan of jailing people
Thu Oct 24, 2013, 03:39 AM
Oct 2013

but refusing to jail those that do the biggest harm to the country while at the same time jailing the biggest percentage of our population ever is making our justice system a joke.

 

Nanjing to Seoul

(2,088 posts)
50. President Elizabeth Warren. . .first female American President. Has a nice ring to it
Thu Oct 24, 2013, 04:13 AM
Oct 2013

Vice President Alan Grayson. . .first non-Christian American Vice-President.

 

Flatulo

(5,005 posts)
59. Do US senators get a security detail? Ms. Warren is pissing
Thu Oct 24, 2013, 11:55 AM
Oct 2013

off some very powerful people.

I hope she at least gets a large dog and an armored car. And stays away from light aircraft.

blue-wave

(5,143 posts)
62. Wouldn't it be great
Thu Oct 24, 2013, 01:08 PM
Oct 2013

if we could replace all the senate repubs with the likes of Senator Warren! I love that woman.

 

silvershadow

(10,336 posts)
63. If she doesn't run for President this time, President Obama should appoint her AG.
Thu Oct 24, 2013, 02:01 PM
Oct 2013

It's a wonder he didn't do this before, imho.

Hotler

(13,747 posts)
64. Treat them like drug dealers.....
Thu Oct 24, 2013, 02:20 PM
Oct 2013

Kick the doors to their houses open in the middle of the night. Drag them and their family out in the streets. confiscate all their assets and throw them in prison for 25yrs. Fine them so much that if they make it out of the joint they had no money to live on.

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