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Gore1FL

(21,100 posts)
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 04:33 PM Nov 2013

Sen. Rand Paul Wishes He Could Challenge Plagiarism Critics to a ‘Duel’; Calls Them ‘Hacks and Hater

Source: ABC News

On “This Week” Sunday, Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., dismissed charges of plagiarism in his speeches and writing made in the last week, saying he was being “unfairly targeted by a bunch of hacks and haters” who he wishes he could challenge to a “duel.”

“The footnote police have really been dogging me for the last week. I will admit that. And I will admit, sometimes we haven’t footnoted things properly,” Paul told ABC’s George Stephanopoulos on “This Week.”

“In some of the other things that are now going to pop up under thousands of things I’ve written, yeah, there are times when they have been sloppy or not correct or we’ve made an error,” Paul said. “But the difference is, I take it as an insult and I will not lie down and say people can call me dishonest, misleading or misrepresenting. I have never intentionally done so.”

“When I wrote scientific papers, I sometimes had statements with eight footnotes for one sentence. Is that what you want me to do for my speeches? If it’s required, I’ll do it,” Paul added. “But I think I’m being unfairly targeted by a bunch of hacks and haters. And I’m just not going to put up with people casting aspersions on my character.”


Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2013/11/sen-rand-paul-wishes-he-could-challenge-plagiarism-critics-to-a-duel-calls-them-hacks-and-haters/



Apparently he is channeling his inner "Zell Miller."
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Sen. Rand Paul Wishes He Could Challenge Plagiarism Critics to a ‘Duel’; Calls Them ‘Hacks and Hater (Original Post) Gore1FL Nov 2013 OP
PROJECT MUCH!!! Tikki Nov 2013 #1
Mentally Deficient billhicks76 Nov 2013 #55
I wonder where he lifted that excuse from? n/t JeffHead Nov 2013 #2
So the Rug Doctor has a duel personality... Blue Owl Nov 2013 #3
Sounds like he is steaming mad... Thor_MN Nov 2013 #10
He needs to clean up his act. Umm he just admitted he wants to shoot Rachel Maddow Heather MC Nov 2013 #17
mad kardonb Nov 2013 #22
Hey Rand! You can't shoot all those of us who know you are a plagerist as well as a friggin' drynberg Nov 2013 #4
"...people casting aspersions on my character..." LOL IllinoisBirdWatcher Nov 2013 #5
Exactly!!!!!!!! Heather MC Nov 2013 #19
Hahahahahaha, Rachael would probably best him in a duel! Iliyah Nov 2013 #6
I'm sorry? Rand Paul was a scientist? cheapdate Nov 2013 #7
well, he is a self-certified doctor. IllinoisBirdWatcher Nov 2013 #14
Thin skinned. He will melt running for president. Faygo Kid Nov 2013 #8
I know. Wouldn't it be entertaining for him run? I think he's more Barney Phife than anyone .... marble falls Nov 2013 #37
"Dayam! Y'know, y'all keep ketchin me and I'll just hafta whup out m'shootin irons" struggle4progress Nov 2013 #9
Oh, a thin-skinned Republicon liar who will not accept responsibility for his actions Berlum Nov 2013 #11
a duel? which century is he living in again? magical thyme Nov 2013 #12
Look, Rand, I'll meet you after school, They_Live Nov 2013 #13
". . . I’m just not going to put up with people casting aspersions on my character.” radicalliberal Nov 2013 #15
And this guy is a doctor? Unreal. What a pathetic whiner. RBInMaine Nov 2013 #16
He's got some kind of bedside manner, eh? SoapBox Nov 2013 #23
Back when the R Senator ripped into the park ranger, he would have never spoken to a man libdem4life Nov 2013 #18
As the challenged party I have the choice of weapons. Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #20
Stupid fuck... SoapBox Nov 2013 #21
Accepted ThoughtCriminal Nov 2013 #24
A duel! He and Rachel can cast Tanuki Nov 2013 #25
perhaps he does not understand what he is accused. Now in the TP his explanation would be Thinkingabout Nov 2013 #26
You expected an intelligent and reasoned response? CanonRay Nov 2013 #27
I've got a few adjectives for him too! Va Lefty Nov 2013 #28
Duel?? He just wants to use a guttapercha cane with impunity. nt msanthrope Nov 2013 #29
Wow, what a hopeless piece of shit. truthisfreedom Nov 2013 #30
To a duel? Which century does he think he's living in? LeftishBrit Nov 2013 #31
His politics suggest the fourteenth jmowreader Nov 2013 #54
"Me thinks thou dost protest too much." JDPriestly Nov 2013 #32
It's tough to get good help when you aren't even willing to pay them minimum wage Snake Plissken Nov 2013 #34
If an intern had written it, he'd have thrown them under the bus csziggy Nov 2013 #39
He's just pissed that he got caught. Left Coast2020 Nov 2013 #56
Rand Paul is a dumbed down version of Zell Miller Snake Plissken Nov 2013 #33
Exactly, You are defending yourself from charges of plagarism by stealing a psycho quote from steelyboo Nov 2013 #68
“But I think I’m being unfairly targeted by.... Phlem Nov 2013 #35
Blame it on others. Typical GOP tactic, plus Aldo Leopold Nov 2013 #36
Cry baby weissmam Nov 2013 #38
My my....the little mind is upset with Maddow riversedge Nov 2013 #40
Welcome to DU, riversedge! calimary Nov 2013 #77
hey, plagiarism probably made him a doctor. Warpy Nov 2013 #41
Now there's a thought! Plucketeer Nov 2013 #53
Just like most Libertarians, he has the mentality and temperament of a child. nt onehandle Nov 2013 #42
You can't make this shit up NastyRiffraff Nov 2013 #43
What kind of duel, sparky? Bong packing? Power toking? ..... marble falls Nov 2013 #44
Wish I could be the one to take him up on this, choose swords as the weapon and watch him rwsanders Nov 2013 #45
Have you every noticed Cryptoad Nov 2013 #46
A duel! treestar Nov 2013 #47
Rand Paul is one of the nastiest pieces of shit out there! gopiscrap Nov 2013 #48
Dude. I saw the clips. I saw the Wikipedia text. You're a useless hack with no ideas. AArmstrong Nov 2013 #49
Hahahaha - I'm enjoying the meltdown. Politicub Nov 2013 #50
hey all you high school and college students out there.... ejpoeta Nov 2013 #51
Mr. Rand Paul self-certified ophthalmologist? abelenkpe Nov 2013 #52
Rachelwould cut him to ribbons. n/t Lil Missy Nov 2013 #57
this just in... Javaman Nov 2013 #58
The only way I would accept a duel with him reflection Nov 2013 #59
Might be time for someone to take a fine tooth comb to his 'scientific' writings... JCMach1 Nov 2013 #60
Twit. Mz Pip Nov 2013 #61
that "duel" crack just legitimized what was otherwise a microscopic non-scandal paulkienitz Nov 2013 #62
Bring on a duel Dopers_Greed Nov 2013 #63
Now the question is... packman Nov 2013 #64
Was that Rand Paul, inviting us to scrutinize his publications? winter is coming Nov 2013 #65
Extremely thin-skinned, not presidential material. truthisfreedom Nov 2013 #66
His Head is Going to Explode Soon tonekat Nov 2013 #67
Apparently he is channeling his inner "Zell Miller." MADem Nov 2013 #69
I stand corrected! Gore1FL Nov 2013 #70
This is an absolutely hilarious circumstance!!! MADem Nov 2013 #71
he must have been a real treasure to deal with when he was a student. Javaman Nov 2013 #72
Hacks and haters? IT TAKES ONE TO KNOW ONE. This two-bit mental midget is no leader. ancianita Nov 2013 #73
I bet Randy shoots a little bitty, teeny gun demigoddess Nov 2013 #74
"Eight footnotes" : kentauros Nov 2013 #75
Juanita Jean is having fun mocking Rand Paul Gothmog Nov 2013 #76
Rand Paul is now throwing his staff under the bus Gothmog Nov 2013 #78
blunderbuses in hot air balloons dembotoz Nov 2013 #79
They were ALL coincidences, damn you!!!! DeSwiss Nov 2013 #80
Thinks he's channeling F'ing Aaron Burr???? Manifestor_of_Light Nov 2013 #81
Oh, yes, America, this is the man you should give the nuclear launch codes to! Zeke L Brimstone Nov 2013 #82
I'm a hating.. Theyletmeeatcake2 Nov 2013 #83
A Baylor Journalism Professor has some choice comments for Rand Paul Gothmog Nov 2013 #84
 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
55. Mentally Deficient
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 11:14 PM
Nov 2013

Whats up with these conservatives and duels? Their threatening tactics are really as antiquated as their views? He's looking like a political ameteur now. He should stick to defending privacy rights and criticizing wars.

 

Heather MC

(8,084 posts)
17. He needs to clean up his act. Umm he just admitted he wants to shoot Rachel Maddow
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 05:24 PM
Nov 2013

that is what "Challege to a Duel" infers
is it not.

 

kardonb

(777 posts)
22. mad
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 05:32 PM
Nov 2013

sounds like he is off his rock head , literally "mad " in the traditional sense . On top of that he sounds megalomaniacal .

IllinoisBirdWatcher

(2,315 posts)
5. "...people casting aspersions on my character..." LOL
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 04:50 PM
Nov 2013




So President Obama forgets to attribute ONE LINE to Governor Patrick (after having given him credit on two prior occasions) and the Teapublicans go bat-doodoo crazy.

Rand Paul gets caught multiple times cribbing from the encyclopedia and right-wing think tanks and wants to claim that people are "casting aspersions" on his CHARACTER.



The same Rand Paul who told college students that "But I would sometimes spread misinformation. This is a great tactic. Misinformation can be very important."

"So That's My Advice. Misinformation Works."

IllinoisBirdWatcher

(2,315 posts)
14. well, he is a self-certified doctor.
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 05:09 PM
Nov 2013

Considering self-certification can be whatever I want it to be, I guess I can claim I am both a doctor AND a scientist.

Faygo Kid

(21,477 posts)
8. Thin skinned. He will melt running for president.
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 04:56 PM
Nov 2013

He's a jerk, and so is the rest of that sorry field. They may as well nominate Louie Gohmert for all the chance they'll have in 2016, unless they cheat more effectively than they did in 2012.

marble falls

(57,010 posts)
37. I know. Wouldn't it be entertaining for him run? I think he's more Barney Phife than anyone ....
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 06:58 PM
Nov 2013

on the scene.

Berlum

(7,044 posts)
11. Oh, a thin-skinned Republicon liar who will not accept responsibility for his actions
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 04:58 PM
Nov 2013

As usual. How often have we seen this bullshit from Republicons in the past? Republicons just do not do personal responsibility, or honesty for that matter.

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
12. a duel? which century is he living in again?
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 05:01 PM
Nov 2013

never mind...I know. Something prior to the 20th century. I doubt he'll live to see the 21st century

They_Live

(3,224 posts)
13. Look, Rand, I'll meet you after school,
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 05:07 PM
Nov 2013

by the bike racks. No knives, no rocks, and no dirt clods. And if you chicken out, I'll tell the whole Seventh Grade!

radicalliberal

(907 posts)
15. ". . . I’m just not going to put up with people casting aspersions on my character.”
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 05:12 PM
Nov 2013

What character? You have none.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
18. Back when the R Senator ripped into the park ranger, he would have never spoken to a man
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 05:25 PM
Nov 2013

in that dismissive manner. Same with this guy...not only is "she" a woman, but she is lesbian. Two strikes against her so out with the public meltdown.

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
21. Stupid fuck...
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 05:32 PM
Nov 2013

Gee, wonder if he would agree...

"What's mine is mine and what's yours is mine."

Agree with that Sen. Asshole?

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
26. perhaps he does not understand what he is accused. Now in the TP his explanation would be
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 05:55 PM
Nov 2013

Accepted, maybe he should get them to make a sign because they are great in handling the sign making.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
32. "Me thinks thou dost protest too much."
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 06:35 PM
Nov 2013

He hires poorly educated staff to write his speeches. They don't understand that plagiarism can get you into an embarrassing mess.

Maybe he just had an intern write the stuff for him.

csziggy

(34,131 posts)
39. If an intern had written it, he'd have thrown them under the bus
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 07:06 PM
Nov 2013

Without a second thought.

No, for this level of outrage, he's been caught for something he did himself.

steelyboo

(278 posts)
68. Exactly, You are defending yourself from charges of plagarism by stealing a psycho quote from
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 01:00 AM
Nov 2013

Zell Miller? WTF?

Phlem

(6,323 posts)
35. “But I think I’m being unfairly targeted by....
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 06:43 PM
Nov 2013

By people who know your a lunatic running the asylum you fucking ass.

-p

Aldo Leopold

(685 posts)
36. Blame it on others. Typical GOP tactic, plus
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 06:48 PM
Nov 2013

It sounds as if he knows additional examples of his intellectual thievery will surface.

Fucking simpleton poser.

calimary

(81,110 posts)
77. Welcome to DU, riversedge!
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 04:12 PM
Nov 2013

Glad you're here! "The little mind"!!!

I call him the Kentucky Pipsqueak. PHONY-ASS Kentucky Pipsqueak.

Warpy

(111,147 posts)
41. hey, plagiarism probably made him a doctor.
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 07:15 PM
Nov 2013

We all know he doesn't have the brains or the ability to get board certified, so he and his wife decided to create their own "board."

He's been a punk and a cheater all his life. I have no idea why he just doesn't own up to this and claim he had their permission. I'm sure they'd grant it retroactively.

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
53. Now there's a thought!
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 10:03 PM
Nov 2013

If the US doesn't vote Rand to the presidency, could he build an alternate "White House" and reign as president of the Tea Partiers???

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
43. You can't make this shit up
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 07:23 PM
Nov 2013

A duel! Ye gods.

Yeah swing that thing, big boy. Sheesh. The proper response to this is bellysore laughter and mockery.

rwsanders

(2,594 posts)
45. Wish I could be the one to take him up on this, choose swords as the weapon and watch him
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 07:56 PM
Nov 2013

wet his pants.

 

AArmstrong

(32 posts)
49. Dude. I saw the clips. I saw the Wikipedia text. You're a useless hack with no ideas.
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 09:11 PM
Nov 2013

And what's up with the hair?

He can't fake that he didn't know he was plagirising directly off of Wikipedia. It's documented, direct, clear, and without footnotes.

Rand Paul is as stupid as he is disingenuous - meaning "totally".

ejpoeta

(8,933 posts)
51. hey all you high school and college students out there....
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 09:28 PM
Nov 2013

Remember these words if you happen to be called out for plagarism. See how it works for ya....

abelenkpe

(9,933 posts)
52. Mr. Rand Paul self-certified ophthalmologist?
Sun Nov 3, 2013, 10:03 PM
Nov 2013

Says his verbatim quotes from Wikipedia are just haters and hacks? I saw that video. It's pretty obvious he is a plagiarizing lying sack of stupid.

What's really sad is that this total c student phony was elected to the US senate.

Javaman

(62,503 posts)
58. this just in...
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 09:12 AM
Nov 2013

ayn rand paul angry at people pointing out his failures. He was quoted as saying, "how dare they show the public just how colossally stupid I am!"

reflection

(6,286 posts)
59. The only way I would accept a duel with him
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 10:29 AM
Nov 2013

was if he agreed to leave the ferret on his head at home. That thing might bite.

JCMach1

(27,553 posts)
60. Might be time for someone to take a fine tooth comb to his 'scientific' writings...
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 11:47 AM
Nov 2013

his defensiveness says he is hiding more...

Mz Pip

(27,431 posts)
61. Twit.
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 11:57 AM
Nov 2013

Intellectually lazy ass. Randy is another one of those narcissists who don't believe the rules apply to him.

Dopers_Greed

(2,640 posts)
63. Bring on a duel
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 12:37 PM
Nov 2013

I'm picturing him getting hit and falling to the ground, while his rug remains in the air for a few extra seconds, Looney Tunes style.

truthisfreedom

(23,140 posts)
66. Extremely thin-skinned, not presidential material.
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 03:52 PM
Nov 2013

He's toast. Thanks, Rachel! But now who's going to spoil the repuke race?

MADem

(135,425 posts)
71. This is an absolutely hilarious circumstance!!!
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 08:30 AM
Nov 2013

You'd think the nitwit, when called out, would mumble a few words of shameful apology, and say something like "I need to check my staffers' work more carefully" or something, anything, that suggests an awareness of his HUMILIATION....but no! Instead, he wants to cross swords, or do "pistols at ten paces!"

What an idiot!

It's a gift that keeps on giving, though....this kind of thing will dog him all the days of his life!

Javaman

(62,503 posts)
72. he must have been a real treasure to deal with when he was a student.
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 09:58 AM
Nov 2013

student paul: I didn't copy my roommates paper on basket weaving! You sir are a no account!

Professor: Rand, please take your seat.

student paul: I demand satisfaction!

Professor: Ugh, sigh. We go through this every week.

student paul: At dawn tomorrow!

Professor: Look, this is the third time you copied someone else's paper.

student paul: Guns or swords? Your choice!

Professor: Heck, you even copied the other guys name onto the paper!

student paul: You, sir, are a hater of fine work!

Professor: Fine work? You copied a paper that got a D.

student paul: um, er. Well, let that be a lesson to you!

Professor: (puts face in hands) Just take your seat. You get an F.

student paul: You won't hear the last from me!

Professor: I don't doubt that. (rolls eyes)

Gothmog

(144,920 posts)
76. Juanita Jean is having fun mocking Rand Paul
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 03:15 PM
Nov 2013

Please remember that in my part of the country, we have a great deal of experience with the Paul family http://www.juanitajean.com/2013/11/04/rand-paul-and-the-xerox-machine/

Gothmog

(144,920 posts)
78. Rand Paul is now throwing his staff under the bus
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 04:12 PM
Nov 2013

It took a while but Rand Paul is finally making the move that most pundits have been expecting. Rand Paul is now blaming his staff for these issues http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/rand-paul-blames-plagiarism-on-staff-implements-new-citation-policy

Sen. Rand Paul's office on Tuesday admitted in a statement that some of the Kentucky senator's speeches were poorly sourced and not properly vetted, after several news reports accused him of plagiarism.

Doug Stafford, Paul's senior advisor, said that the senator always uses his own ideas, but relies on staff to provide support.

"Sen. Paul also relies on a large number of staff and advisers to provide supporting facts and anecdotes – some of which were not clearly sourced or vetted properly," Stafford said in the statement.


It is clear that Paul did not write these speeches and so it was only a matter of time before Rand Paul used his staff as scapegoats.

dembotoz

(16,785 posts)
79. blunderbuses in hot air balloons
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 04:52 PM
Nov 2013

great scene from
those magnificent men in their flying machines


thought i better credit the movie

Gothmog

(144,920 posts)
84. A Baylor Journalism Professor has some choice comments for Rand Paul
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 07:23 PM
Nov 2013

Rand Paul attended Baylor for three years but never earned a degree. Rand Paul was accepted into Duke Medical School and so Paul never graduated from Baylor.

A Baylor journalism professor has some choice comments about Paul's lack of ethics. http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/journalism-professor-would-flunk-rand-paul-for-an-unambiguous-case-of-plagiarism

But on Wednesday, Paul lashed out at his critics once more.

"I'm being criticized for not having proper attribution, and yet they are able to write stuff that if I were their journalism teacher in college, I would fail them," Paul told National Review's Robert Costa.

Darden was not moved by that assessment.

"It appears that the Senator from Kentucky is choosing to attack the messenger rather than specifically address what appears to be an unambiguous case of plagiarism," he said in an email. "Had one of my Journalism students made the same mistakes, I would fail them for each individual assignment and refer the case to the appropriate university office that deals with honor code violations."


Rand may want to challenge this professor to a duel
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