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Indi Guy

(3,992 posts)
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 11:36 PM Nov 2013

NSA Lawyer: Phone Surveillance Uses Stop-and-Frisk Standards

Last edited Tue Nov 5, 2013, 01:40 AM - Edit history (1)

Source: NEWSMAX

Intelligence officials say National Security Agency workers follow the same standards in accessing phone surveillance data as those guiding law enforcement's stop-and-frisk policy,The Hill reports.

NSA workers have to demonstrate "reasonable and articulable suspicion" when they want to troll through specific information that's part of NSA's massive data collection on all U.S. calls.

"It’s effectively the same standard as stop-and-risk," NSA General Counsel Rajesh De said Monday during a hearing held by the Privacy and Civil Liberties Oversight Board, which supervises anti-terrorism surveillance programs.

New York City police say stop-and-frisk is an effective crime-prevention tool, but a federal judge ruled the strategy amounted to "indirect racial profiling" and ordered reforms. That ruling has since been blocked by an appeals court....

Read more: http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/nsa-surveillance-stop-frisk/2013/11/04/id/534750



Original article from The Hill:
[font size="4"]Official: NSA's work is like ‘stop and frisk’[/font]

Intelligence officials say National Security Agency workers follow the same standards in accessing phone surveillance data as those guiding law enforcement's stop-and-frisk policy, The Hill reports.

NSA workers have to demonstrate "reasonable and articulable suspicion" when they want to troll through specific information that's part of NSA's massive data collection on all U.S. calls.

"It’s effectively the same standard as stop-and-risk," NSA General Counsel Rajesh De said Monday during a hearing held by the Privacy and Civil Liberties Oversight Board, which supervises anti-terrorism surveillance programs.

New York City police say stop-and-frisk is an effective crime-prevention tool, but a federal judge ruled the strategy amounted to "indirect racial profiling" and ordered reforms. That ruling has since been blocked by an appeals court...

http://thehill.com/blogs/hillicon-valley/189141-phone-data-surveillance-like-%E2%80%98stop-and-frisk%E2%80%99-intelligence-officials

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NSA Lawyer: Phone Surveillance Uses Stop-and-Frisk Standards (Original Post) Indi Guy Nov 2013 OP
Well, that should satisfy all the concerns on DU christx30 Nov 2013 #1
Oh yeah wise guy? Indi Guy Nov 2013 #8
Stop and Frisk is illegal too. So yeah, I guess they are using similar standards. nt Live and Learn Nov 2013 #2
They should not be COLLECTING our information. PERIOD. Th1onein Nov 2013 #3
Thank you. This is a deliberate strategy in the propaganda. woo me with science Nov 2013 #4
Exactly. ronnie624 Nov 2013 #9
Could you link to the original story Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author Indi Guy Nov 2013 #6
OK The link was broken but is working now... I'll edit the OP. Indi Guy Nov 2013 #7
Thanks! Kelvin Mace Nov 2013 #11
And the desperate search for a rationale for this voyeurism continues. nt bemildred Nov 2013 #10

Th1onein

(8,514 posts)
3. They should not be COLLECTING our information. PERIOD.
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 12:12 AM
Nov 2013

It's not a matter of looking through it, once they have it. It's a matter of taking it in the first place.

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
4. Thank you. This is a deliberate strategy in the propaganda.
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 12:34 AM
Nov 2013

They are constantly trying to portray the mass collection of data as a given and focus the controversy on what happens afterward, as though the Fourth Amendment did not even exist.

They are corporate fascists using our tax dollars to create and justify a criminal surveillance state.

ronnie624

(5,764 posts)
9. Exactly.
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 02:59 AM
Nov 2013

How on earth can anyone believe there is nothing amiss with our government having detailed dossiers on every man woman and child? Can they not see the power and control this grants the government over our lives and the inherent potential for abuse therein?

Fucking bizarre.

 

Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
5. Could you link to the original story
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 01:05 AM
Nov 2013

from The Hill instead of Newsmax, please?

Let's not give traffic to the crazies.

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