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bananas

(27,509 posts)
Wed Dec 4, 2013, 01:12 PM Dec 2013

NORAD's Santa tracker draws criticism with fighter jet escort

Source: Fox News

A North American Aerospace Defense Command website showing Santa Claus delivering presents while flanked by fighter jets has some child advocates raising concerns about Saint Nick's new travel companions.

NORAD Tracks Santa, operated by the joint U.S.-Canada command, has provided children with information about Santa's whereabouts since 1955. In recent years, Santa updates have included animated videos showing Santa on his flight path.

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Allen Kanner, a California child and family psychologist and co-founder of the Boston-based Campaign for a Commercial Free Childhood, told The Boston Globe the Pentagon is "completely out of line" for linking Christmas with the military.

“Children associate Santa with gifts and fun and everything else that is positive about Christmas,” Kanner told the newspaper. “They are associating this with the military in children’s minds."

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Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/12/04/norad-santa-tracking-draws-criticism-with-fighter-jet-escort/



This is wrong on so many levels.
Obama should order NORAD to stand down.
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NORAD's Santa tracker draws criticism with fighter jet escort (Original Post) bananas Dec 2013 OP
Please allinthegame Dec 2013 #1
whoever thought this was a great idea needs one of santa's boots up his ignorant behind (or niyad Dec 2013 #2
This is the soft cuddly underbelly of the garrison state. Jesus Malverde Dec 2013 #3
Those fighters aren't trying to escort Santa, they're trying to shoot him down. Amimnoch Dec 2013 #5
a man flying around unauthorized visiting children at night....AMBER ALERT Jesus Malverde Dec 2013 #6
As if people want to associate Christmas with USA's war-machine . . . ConcernedCanuk Dec 2013 #4
OMG SANTA!!!! Evasporque Dec 2013 #7
I know Santa has to travel fast... CubicleGuy Dec 2013 #8
The Physics of Santa KareBear Dec 2013 #9
Of course we can all attribute it to magic sakabatou Dec 2013 #12
I've never seen that before... pauliedangerously Dec 2013 #13
I don't know why NORAD is wasting... harrose Dec 2013 #10
It is done by volunteers and has been done since the 1950s happyslug Dec 2013 #14
And Santa would need protection because...? Kelvin Mace Dec 2013 #11

allinthegame

(132 posts)
1. Please
Wed Dec 4, 2013, 01:16 PM
Dec 2013

Find me one child that actually comes away from that website thinking those thoughts (who is not the kid of that psychologist who spends his non-Christmas time terrifying his own kids)

niyad

(113,345 posts)
2. whoever thought this was a great idea needs one of santa's boots up his ignorant behind (or
Wed Dec 4, 2013, 01:25 PM
Dec 2013

one of my stilettos)

Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
3. This is the soft cuddly underbelly of the garrison state.
Wed Dec 4, 2013, 01:35 PM
Dec 2013


Every Christmas I'm reminded how valiant the North American Aerospace Defense Command was during the greatest attack to the American mainland ever.
 

Amimnoch

(4,558 posts)
5. Those fighters aren't trying to escort Santa, they're trying to shoot him down.
Wed Dec 4, 2013, 02:16 PM
Dec 2013

Let's look at this critically:

Large man with a full beard, and wearing a funny hat (must be Muslim).
Flying in an unauthorized craft, on an un registered flight plan. (must be a terrorist)
Has a large, suspicious bag in the back that contains numerous boxes (must be explosives of course).
Is being pulled by flying mutant deer, the lead has a brightly glowing red nose (glowing nose must be radioactive)

Let's face it.. our TSA, military, and the conservative/Republican establishment wouldn't welcome Santa.. they'd shoot him down, waterboard him, and lock him up in GITMO without trial/due process for the rest of his life.

 

ConcernedCanuk

(13,509 posts)
4. As if people want to associate Christmas with USA's war-machine . . .
Wed Dec 4, 2013, 01:43 PM
Dec 2013

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People are trying their damndest to FORGET about USA's wars -

at least for a little bit . . .

OK GUYS???

sheesh



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CubicleGuy

(323 posts)
8. I know Santa has to travel fast...
Wed Dec 4, 2013, 04:53 PM
Dec 2013

... but I had no concept that the reindeer were actually capable of pulling Santa's sleigh along at speeds higher than Mach 1. I would expect that Santa would have a hard time keeping up with the jet fighters, but I guess not.

harrose

(380 posts)
10. I don't know why NORAD is wasting...
Wed Dec 4, 2013, 05:45 PM
Dec 2013

... our tax dollars and resources with this whole "Santa tracking" foolishness. Not to mention it's probably a violation of the Establishment Clause.

 

happyslug

(14,779 posts)
14. It is done by volunteers and has been done since the 1950s
Thu Dec 5, 2013, 02:43 AM
Dec 2013

1955, the Sears store in Colorado Springs put in the local paper an ad for young people to call Santa. The problem was the number printed was NOT the Sears Santa line but the TOP SECRET Line to Norad. Norad was prepared for a long boring Christmas Eve and the phones started to ring off the walls. Call after call after call. Here you had battle harded pilots trained to take phone calls about having order a Nuclear Attack on Russia, having three to five year old calling in. You can;t tell them it is the wrong number, they to young to understand. Thus this became a MAJOR Crisis for Norad, some people call the worse Crisis Norad ever faced (Even during the Cuban Missile Crisis Norad did not get as many calls). A new phone number was arranged through Bell Telephone for outgoing calls (and for incoming calls, once people who were authorized to call were told of the new number). while every one was called to answer the phones in case it was someone who was calling in a nuke strike. All the calls had to be answered for you did not know which one would be one calling for a nuke strike (no nuke strike was called in, Even Russia took a Christmas Holiday that year).



The decision was made since the it was NORAD (Technically it was CONRAD, the name was changed to NORAD a few years later) for the callers to give the callers any coordinates for Santa that year and most children were happily knowing Santa was on his way.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NORAD_Tracks_Santa

Now, good numbers are hard to NOT to keep for years, so NORAD had to prepare for such calls the new year, and it has been a December tradition ever since. No actual US funds are used, the money for the service is provided by the volunteers.

According to Gerry Bowler, a history professor at the University of Manitoba, the NORAD Tracks Santa program is "one of the few modern additions to the centuries-old Santa Claus story that have stuck." Bowler stated that the program "takes an essential element of the Santa Claus story — his travels on Christmas Eve — and looks at it through a technological lens," therefore bringing the Santa Claus mythology into the modern era

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NORAD_Tracks_Santa

http://www.noradsanta.org/

 

Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
11. And Santa would need protection because...?
Wed Dec 4, 2013, 06:45 PM
Dec 2013

Next they will be posting pics of Jesus with Blackwater bodyguards.

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