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Eugene

(61,901 posts)
Wed Dec 4, 2013, 01:51 PM Dec 2013

Christie's values Detroit-owned art at $452 million to $866 million

Source: Reuters

BY JOSEPH LICHTERMAN
DETROIT Wed Dec 4, 2013 11:37am EST

(Reuters) - The auction house Christie's put a price tag on one of Detroit's highest-profile city assets, its share of the Detroit Institute of Arts collection, stating that nearly 3,000 works controlled by the city are worth between $452 million and $866 million.

The finding by Christie's, hired to place a value on art treasures that could become a contested element of the Detroit bankruptcy, puts a range of value on 2,781 works owned or partially owned by the city.

The holdings represent only about 5 percent of the DIA's full collection, but with the finding Tuesday that Detroit is bankrupt under Chapter 9 of the federal bankruptcy code, it is possible the city may seek to monetize some of the artwork.

Christie's said 11 pieces on display at the museum account for 75 percent of the appraised collection's total value.

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Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/12/04/us-usas-detroit-bankruptcy-art-idUSBRE9B30NW20131204

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Christie's values Detroit-owned art at $452 million to $866 million (Original Post) Eugene Dec 2013 OP
bunch of republican crooks hollysmom Dec 2013 #1
Isn't this legalized Grand Larceny? SleeplessinSoCal Dec 2013 #2
What value is a city without fine art? nt longship Dec 2013 #3
This would be one of the worst crimes of the century...... Swede Atlanta Dec 2013 #4
One of the valuable works is a Van Gogh self-portrait KamaAina Dec 2013 #5
Would he even "get" it? AlbertCat Dec 2013 #8
Someone would probably have to point it out to him KamaAina Dec 2013 #11
So, How Does Hollowing Out DallasNE Dec 2013 #6
C'mon! AlbertCat Dec 2013 #10
Package it up in a travelling exhibition maxsolomon Dec 2013 #7
Thread win! KamaAina Dec 2013 #9
But the bk judge seemed to be leaning towards seeing the art spared CTyankee Dec 2013 #17
If it is only 5% of the full collection, I could live with it. louis-t Dec 2013 #12
umm, give art to the unions to get pensions to go away?...nt quadrature Dec 2013 #13
Well isn't that special... Jesus Malverde Dec 2013 #14
Creditors are contrarian22 Dec 2013 #15
not without a fight.... madrchsod Dec 2013 #16
But what is the value of democracy? nt silvershadow Dec 2013 #18
That wouldn't even be a 5% down payment Demeter Dec 2013 #19
one guess where this will be DonCoquixote Dec 2013 #20
That certain Drunk Driver is a true patron of the arts she will put this art on display warrant46 Dec 2013 #23
If the Detroit museum art works are sold to private collectors... AdHocSolver Dec 2013 #21
Bet they get nowhere near this amount. QuestForSense Dec 2013 #22

hollysmom

(5,946 posts)
1. bunch of republican crooks
Wed Dec 4, 2013, 01:52 PM
Dec 2013

stealing from a city that gave more than it took when it was well can not get help from the reds now.

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,123 posts)
2. Isn't this legalized Grand Larceny?
Wed Dec 4, 2013, 02:08 PM
Dec 2013

This "bankruptcy" seems so completely wrong. Detroit is not a business. It's not a person. It's a city that had many people throughout it's existence doing great work and then some with bad managerial skills during a very down economy. This is grand larceny when they take the most valuable property and other aspects of the city to completely kill it and make some sort of Frankenstein Creature out of its remains. It's a horror show.

 

Swede Atlanta

(3,596 posts)
4. This would be one of the worst crimes of the century......
Wed Dec 4, 2013, 02:20 PM
Dec 2013

if the art in the Institute are auctioned off to the highest bidder.

The art is a wonderful collection and places Detroit on a par with other cities with renown museums. It would be a real pity if these were sold off to enrich private collections or as investments by individuals.

I would like to see the possibility of placing them in trust and possibly using them as collateral for resolution of some of the outstanding debts before they are sold off.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
5. One of the valuable works is a Van Gogh self-portrait
Wed Dec 4, 2013, 02:46 PM
Dec 2013

everyone should send unelected dictator Kevyn Orr a rubber ear.

DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
6. So, How Does Hollowing Out
Wed Dec 4, 2013, 02:47 PM
Dec 2013

Detroit's primary tourist attraction help solve the financial troubles Detroit faces. You use that as the centerpiece and build out from there. You don't tear it apart because then you have lost your building block and make it next to impossible to recover.

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
7. Package it up in a travelling exhibition
Wed Dec 4, 2013, 02:51 PM
Dec 2013

And send it out on tour for 4-5 years. It can generate income for the city and not be permanently lost to some asshole hedge fund manager or arab sheik.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
9. Thread win!
Wed Dec 4, 2013, 02:54 PM
Dec 2013


Plus, "Treasures of Detroit" would generate some worldwide publicity for the city that doesn't involve abandoned buildings or broken streetlights.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
17. But the bk judge seemed to be leaning towards seeing the art spared
Wed Dec 4, 2013, 04:28 PM
Dec 2013

according to the NYT. I had some hope there.

Your idea is intriguing, but I could see it as providing the income stream to pay down DEtroit's debt, over time. The exhibit would travel only part of the year and could be billed as an art saving effort as well as for its artistic merit. That way, people buying tickets to its venues around the world could feel like they are seeing an exhibit of great art and feel good about contributing to its being saved. It could travel around the world and art lovers everywhere could feel good about being part of it.

Barring that, my other idea is that there could be a group of wealthy art lovers who could put together a fund to buy the artworks, then place them in a non-profit trust providing that they be kept for the people of Detroit, housed in the DIA.

louis-t

(23,295 posts)
12. If it is only 5% of the full collection, I could live with it.
Wed Dec 4, 2013, 02:57 PM
Dec 2013

I thought they were going to sell the whole thing. That would be tragic. Detroit should make a deal: Sell 5% of the artwork and reinstate every, fucking pension for city workers.

Oh, and I don't think a tour would generate that much money. Security and travel expenses would eat up a ton of money.

contrarian22

(16 posts)
15. Creditors are
Wed Dec 4, 2013, 03:31 PM
Dec 2013

asking for the art to be sold, including the unions. Even at the highest valuation it would only cover 5% of the debt. It would only help the little businesses that are facing their own BK.

 

Demeter

(85,373 posts)
19. That wouldn't even be a 5% down payment
Wed Dec 4, 2013, 05:01 PM
Dec 2013

on what Wall St defrauded the city. Sue the Banksters, FIRST!

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
20. one guess where this will be
Wed Dec 4, 2013, 05:07 PM
Dec 2013

Down in Bentonville Arkansas where a certain Drunk Driver named Alice Walton thinks an art museum will hide the fact that we do her family is evil.

warrant46

(2,205 posts)
23. That certain Drunk Driver is a true patron of the arts she will put this art on display
Wed Dec 4, 2013, 08:00 PM
Dec 2013

So that homeless children who are hungry and cold, can come and be enlightened in the beauty of the great masters of Europe <sarcasm>

AdHocSolver

(2,561 posts)
21. If the Detroit museum art works are sold to private collectors...
Wed Dec 4, 2013, 05:26 PM
Dec 2013

...then it will be transferred to private collections and be lost to the world.

This is an egregiously bad plan that would amount to theft of an American treasure.

Let the U.S. government bail out Detroit like the tax payers bailed out the banks.

QuestForSense

(653 posts)
22. Bet they get nowhere near this amount.
Wed Dec 4, 2013, 07:48 PM
Dec 2013

Those who will be bidding want everything for nothing. It makes me sick to my stomach to think about those greedy bastards already licking their slavering chops over this magnificent collection, mindless that it was assembled for the benefit of the PUBLIC.

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