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Indi Guy

(3,992 posts)
Wed Dec 4, 2013, 03:59 PM Dec 2013

NSA Opponents Want To Cut Off Utah Facility From Water Supply

Source: TIME

A group of activists in Utah think they’ve found the ultimate weakness of a massive new data center the National Security Agency is building in Utah: water.

While the facility will feature state of the art technology and security measures, at the end of the day, like any other building, the data center will rely on local utilities, and local opponents want to cut it off from the grid. Advocacy groups, which have formed the OffNow coalition, are pushing for state legislation that would cut off utilities to the NSA’s new data center being built in Bluffdale, Utah. The argues that the NSA’s electronic snooping violates the Fourth Amendment, which protects against unwarranted searches and seizures, and proposed state legislation known as the 4th Amendment Protection Act would prevent the local government from supporting the building with local utilities.

“In short, they can turn the water off,” the group says on its website, noting the data center would use 1.7 million gallons of water ever day

The effort is sure to be stymied by federal authorities, but it’s the latest example in states’ rights activists toying with the idea of “nullification” of federal laws. The group is also making its case in a YouTube video advocating for the nullification of some federal laws...

Read more: http://swampland.time.com/2013/12/04/nsa-opponents-want-to-cut-off-utah-facility-from-water-supply/



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Swede Atlanta

(3,596 posts)
1. Turn the water off.....destroy the state and local roads leading to the perversion........
Wed Dec 4, 2013, 04:04 PM
Dec 2013

I am all for stopping this government from continuing unconstitutional spying on its citizens.....

We cannot rely on Congress or the President to act. The President loves snooping into you e-mails and your phone calls. The majority of thinks it is great as long as no one finds out they are buying crack on the street or hiring a prostitute. Hey, we are just a bunch of frat bois who are looking for some fun.

We must use all legal means available to stop the government. If those means fail then that is another step in escalation.

They think they hold the cards when we know the people actually hold the cards....

 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
6. I beg to differ.
Wed Dec 4, 2013, 05:04 PM
Dec 2013

With respect to the NSA and its Big Brother-style surveillance, we can most definitely rely on Congress and the President to act - against the interests of American citizens and in favor of shadowy government agencies.

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
7. This President's legacy is going to be the Totalitarian State he and Di Feinstein have
Wed Dec 4, 2013, 05:22 PM
Dec 2013

Encouraged to have built, along with that Big Huge Pile of radioactive Shit heading to the USA from Japan.

lapfog_1

(29,205 posts)
2. water is merely the most efficient conduit of heat energy
Wed Dec 4, 2013, 04:08 PM
Dec 2013

cooling computer systems is all about heat exchangers...

It would be more expensive to have a air cooled final heat exchanger (closed loop water transport), but it is certainly doable.

Cut off their power, and don't "permit" them to build their own power plant, and you might be onto something.

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Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
15. Evaporative coolers. Not down the drain, but into the air
Wed Dec 4, 2013, 11:42 PM
Dec 2013

A building I worked at had it's AC and server cooling by evaporative cooling. When you were going in or out of the building, you could hear the fans kick on and sometimes feel the humidity go up, since the exhaust was fairly close to the front door.

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Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
18. I'm from Minnesota where water is for drinking and playing in and on.
Thu Dec 5, 2013, 04:33 AM
Dec 2013

I understand west of here it's for fighting over, so they say.

Progressive dog

(6,905 posts)
8. That will work well
Wed Dec 4, 2013, 05:31 PM
Dec 2013

The feds could cut off Utah's water, Utah has to import it from that awful country that owns the NSA,
These "activists" should just convince the NSA to build the facility elsewhere. I'll bet most states would welcome the jobs.

Progressive dog

(6,905 posts)
11. Actually, the federal government is shrinking
Wed Dec 4, 2013, 05:52 PM
Dec 2013

but there will be jobs in Utah. If they don't want the jobs, a lot of other places would take them.

 

villager

(26,001 posts)
12. And what great jobs, too! Beats cleaning up Fukushima radiation, at least!
Wed Dec 4, 2013, 05:56 PM
Dec 2013

Thanks for your pro-NSA take on the matter!

dreamnightwind

(4,775 posts)
13. Also jobs will be created to imprison anti-NSA activists
Wed Dec 4, 2013, 06:22 PM
Dec 2013

Most states would welcome those jobs too. Very sad.

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