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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Mon Dec 16, 2013, 07:16 PM Dec 2013

White House: Trans Pacific Partnership ‘remains a top priority’ for Obama

Source: Agence France-Presse

The White House sent a strong signal Monday of its desire to create a huge Pacific free trade area, despite the slippage of its year-end deadline for the 12-nation project.

President Barack Obama gathered senior trade advisors in the Oval Office and invited news photographers to document the meeting, in the wake of the latest ministerial talks last week on the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) in Singapore.

“This remains a top priority of the president because of the positive economic benefits that come from it,” White House spokesman Jay Carney said.

“Congress and the American public have high expectations for the TPP.

“The administration is determined to get the best deal possible, and we are pleased with the progress made towards achieving an ambitious, comprehensive, high-standard agreement.”

Read more: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/12/16/white-house-trans-pacific-partnership-remains-a-top-priority-for-obama/

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White House: Trans Pacific Partnership ‘remains a top priority’ for Obama (Original Post) Purveyor Dec 2013 OP
As a member of the American public, KamaAina Dec 2013 #1
I'm sure that's the plan. However... Indi Guy Dec 2013 #24
“Congress and the American public have high expectations for the TPP. " djean111 Dec 2013 #2
No, it's just a shameless attempt at the 'Appeal to Authority' angle. Populist_Prole Dec 2013 #6
How the hell can the American public skepticscott Dec 2013 #23
... sakabatou Dec 2013 #3
That sums up my feelings about this news. eom KoKo Dec 2013 #58
Mitt Romney approves this message anti partisan Dec 2013 #4
My hope is that... Dopers_Greed Dec 2013 #5
My top priority is that it flounders, amongst plutocrats having a temper tantrum Populist_Prole Dec 2013 #7
R and D anti partisan Dec 2013 #8
It's not red America, or blue America, it's purple America, with a very red tint. blkmusclmachine Dec 2013 #32
Yes, our expectations are so high that they details must be kept secret from us. arcane1 Dec 2013 #9
i was trying to think of a way to make that point Enrique Dec 2013 #13
TPP SamKnause Dec 2013 #10
Minimum wage for the bulk of workers will be $8.00 an hour warrant46 Dec 2013 #18
Actually 2naSalit Dec 2013 #30
In the right to work state warrant46 Dec 2013 #43
A little optimistic, aren't you? KansDem Dec 2013 #40
I stand corrected warrant46 Dec 2013 #42
Corporate Trojan Horse ushering in corporate fascism. nt woo me with science Dec 2013 #11
Winner! BrotherIvan Dec 2013 #38
Best executive summary ever jsr Dec 2013 #46
Extremely well said. So far the Trojan horse is still outside the city gates. Indi Guy Dec 2013 #49
The TPP is the 1% declaring class warfare Jack Rabbit Dec 2013 #12
I believe that surrendering US sovereignty is a High Crime. Vincardog Dec 2013 #14
it is so awful that it must be hidden from the American people. thanks Obama nt msongs Dec 2013 #15
More of Obama's transparent bullsh!t. Another slick GOP wanna-be. blkmusclmachine Dec 2013 #33
2nd terms are always unpleasant...nt quadrature Dec 2013 #16
Not this one! He's going to unleash his inner FDR! Doctor_J Dec 2013 #25
11 Dimensional Bullsh!t blkmusclmachine Dec 2013 #34
Since FDR came up with GATT and the International Trade Organization, you could say pampango Dec 2013 #45
This is me tblue Dec 2013 #17
What legacy? Doctor_J Dec 2013 #26
But...Obama's a "librul." Faux Nooz says so!!! blkmusclmachine Dec 2013 #35
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! OnyxCollie Dec 2013 #19
Positive economic benefits for whom? QuestForSense Dec 2013 #20
The same people who benefited from Heritage Care. Doctor_J Dec 2013 #27
Oh, I thought you meant my neice who had cancer at 2, could not get coverage for JoePhilly Dec 2013 #53
I am sure the fan club will find something to like about TPP as well Doctor_J Dec 2013 #54
You tried to tie the 2 items together, not me. JoePhilly Dec 2013 #57
Look, I support BO over Mittens Romney Swede Atlanta Dec 2013 #21
Obama supports the Keystone Pipeline. And his phony Third Way "Grand Betrayal" on Social Security... blkmusclmachine Dec 2013 #36
"Positive economic benefits," for who? another_liberal Dec 2013 #22
For the people who own the government Kelvin Mace Dec 2013 #28
Obama himself said his policies are republican solarhydrocan Dec 2013 #39
What a bunch of hair on fire alarmists. Phlem Dec 2013 #29
Another of Obama's "Grand Bargains." 11 Dimensions of Bullsh!t. blkmusclmachine Dec 2013 #31
Now, now ... we mustn't criticize the President, folks. 1000words Dec 2013 #37
"i want my legacy to be about undermined USA sovereignty & lost jobs." :) NuttyFluffers Dec 2013 #41
he's playing 3D chess Marblehead Dec 2013 #44
He's playing Russian Roulette. Fuddnik Dec 2013 #48
Either that or he wants an alternative to the rules of the WTO and an unrenegotiated NAFTA. pampango Dec 2013 #50
It sounds like the TPP will monetize environmental concerns. djean111 Dec 2013 #52
I agree that just having chapters on labor rights and the environment does not mean much if pampango Dec 2013 #55
America is in the process of self correcting politically <<leftward. NorthCarolina Dec 2013 #47
generations upon generations of HIS descendents FatBuddy Dec 2013 #51
remains top priority to fuck over what`s left of american labor madrchsod Dec 2013 #56
 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
1. As a member of the American public,
Mon Dec 16, 2013, 07:21 PM
Dec 2013

my expectations for the TPP are that it will usher in an era of unprecedented corporate hegemony.

Indi Guy

(3,992 posts)
24. I'm sure that's the plan. However...
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 12:01 AM
Dec 2013

...I doubt that the global corporate elite have accurately assessed the push back they're getting from all directions. Unfortunately for them, they have failed thus far to overturn net neutrality -- so they can't cover up & stifle the voices of their dissenters.

So everyone should continue on protesting this effort in all available media.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
2. “Congress and the American public have high expectations for the TPP. "
Mon Dec 16, 2013, 07:24 PM
Dec 2013

What the hell are they smoking? Are they that smug and sure of themselves?

A "top priority" for me - no support or votes for anyone who supports the TPP.

Populist_Prole

(5,364 posts)
6. No, it's just a shameless attempt at the 'Appeal to Authority' angle.
Mon Dec 16, 2013, 07:35 PM
Dec 2013

Same type of inside the beltway, inside the corporate media thinking. It used to be called "Conventional Wisdom" back in the 80's and 90's, and it infuriated the well read among the 99 percent then. Of course they're going to spin it as a positive, or frame it in the abstract sense of "getting things done". I don't even think it's so much out of contempt for the 99 percent: It's just how they see the world....or rather, their sterile version of it in which they live.

 

skepticscott

(13,029 posts)
23. How the hell can the American public
Mon Dec 16, 2013, 11:47 PM
Dec 2013

have ANY expectations for the TPP when they've done everything they could to keep the details secret?

anti partisan

(429 posts)
4. Mitt Romney approves this message
Mon Dec 16, 2013, 07:30 PM
Dec 2013

We re-elected Obama and this is what we get.

And you can just get a feel of how much more complacent the left is because it's a Democrat doing it. Sad.

Populist_Prole

(5,364 posts)
7. My top priority is that it flounders, amongst plutocrats having a temper tantrum
Mon Dec 16, 2013, 07:39 PM
Dec 2013

Yeah I hope it'll crash and burn too, and I believe they'll prevail even if the actual agreement doesn't survive.

Of course, the exposing of it amidst populist backlash is an encouraging sign.

anti partisan

(429 posts)
8. R and D
Mon Dec 16, 2013, 07:40 PM
Dec 2013

Seem all too much like different flavors of the corporacratic sewage that keeps spewing out of DC.

I have written a letter to my Congressman and Senators. We all should, but I don't feel like they even care.

What good is a blue America if de facto Republicans are running it?

SamKnause

(13,101 posts)
10. TPP
Mon Dec 16, 2013, 07:50 PM
Dec 2013

As a member of the American public I call them as I see them.

DC is filled with liars and cons.

ANYONE who is pushing this TPP deal is not a friend of the American worker.

President Obama is the cheerleader for the TPP.

That makes him a foe of the American worker.

Just say no to the TPP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

KansDem

(28,498 posts)
40. A little optimistic, aren't you?
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 04:44 AM
Dec 2013

I suspect we'll all be eating a generic brand--



We'll be saving "Friskies Selects Indoor Homestyle Turkey Dinner" for special occasions like Thanksgiving...

Indi Guy

(3,992 posts)
49. Extremely well said. So far the Trojan horse is still outside the city gates.
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 12:35 PM
Dec 2013

Let's keep it that way by being very vocal in every medium, at all times.

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
12. The TPP is the 1% declaring class warfare
Mon Dec 16, 2013, 08:04 PM
Dec 2013

Go ahead and pass it, twits. It won't stand.

The American public has high expectations of it my ass. The American public wasn't consulted about the TPP. This member of the American public notes that the "agreement" was negotiated in public and believes that without a doubt there was a reason why negotiations were conducted in secret.

We, The People, are not party to the TPP and we will not be bound by it.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
25. Not this one! He's going to unleash his inner FDR!
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 12:24 AM
Dec 2013

I heard that in the BOG when they were rallying voters in October 2012.

Might go down as the most disappointing president in history. His campaign was a complete fraud.

pampango

(24,692 posts)
45. Since FDR came up with GATT and the International Trade Organization, you could say
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 10:13 AM
Dec 2013

that Obama is channeling his inner FDR by negotiating a trade agreement. Neither feared trade any more than today's Europeans fear it. The TPP has chapters on labor rights and the environment which GATT and the ITO did not have.

tblue

(16,350 posts)
17. This is me
Mon Dec 16, 2013, 09:01 PM
Dec 2013


Does he not know this will massacre his legacy? Not for all of us but certainly for some.
 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
26. What legacy?
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 12:26 AM
Dec 2013

He's probably the biggest disaster in history among democrats. He hasn't passed a single piece of legislation that didn't favor corporations. Every single thing he's done has made his campaign one big lie.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
53. Oh, I thought you meant my neice who had cancer at 2, could not get coverage for
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 01:54 PM
Dec 2013

the last 15 years, but who now has coverage because they can't deny her due to her prior cancer.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
54. I am sure the fan club will find something to like about TPP as well
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 02:09 PM
Dec 2013

and maybe KeystoneXL after that. But you're not helping the president, the party, Americans, or america by cheering for these half-assed, far-right, and Republican solutions. If the president had carried through his campaign promise of a public option for HC, your niece would still have coverage, and the insurance companies would not be sucking 600 billion dollars out of the system. He promised there would be a public option as part of any package. Then after taking office he changed that to, "The insurance companies deserve to make a profit". If you can't see that for the complete sell-out of a huge chunk of the people who voted for him, then there really is no hope for you. And as such the party is doomed, and since they are the only alternative to Ted Cruz and his ilk, America is pretty much done for. Thanks for giving up on fixing this mess.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
57. You tried to tie the 2 items together, not me.
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 02:58 PM
Dec 2013

As for my "helping the President" ... he doesn't need my help.

A PO was never going to pass. Time to move on.

Or ... whine about the ACA in a thread that isn't about the ACA ... and then get into a huff when some one points it out ... that will improve things.

 

Swede Atlanta

(3,596 posts)
21. Look, I support BO over Mittens Romney
Mon Dec 16, 2013, 10:18 PM
Dec 2013

He has done many good things including the stimulus, the Ledbetter Act, the ACA, ending DADT, refusing to defend DOMA, bringing home the troops from Iraq, trying to close Gitmo, etc.

But his hands are by no means clean. He continues with perpetual war in Afghanistan including committing Americans to another 10 years there, continues with the indiscriminate killing using drones, loves him some NSA spying and supports this TPP crap.

So while he is the lesser of two evils I am very disappointed he is as much of a corporatist as the rest of them. I'm sure he is eying the big financial empire he will build after being in office.

I wish we could actually elect someone who was in it to improve the lives of the American PEOPLE, living, breathing human beings with needs than feeding the corporate beast and looking out for his or her interests after leaving office.

 

blkmusclmachine

(16,149 posts)
36. Obama supports the Keystone Pipeline. And his phony Third Way "Grand Betrayal" on Social Security...
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 01:53 AM
Dec 2013

Obama is far to the right of Center.

 

another_liberal

(8,821 posts)
22. "Positive economic benefits," for who?
Mon Dec 16, 2013, 11:14 PM
Dec 2013

Not for anyone who actually works for a living in this country. That's for damn sure!

 

Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
28. For the people who own the government
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 12:31 AM
Dec 2013

as in all three branches.

Once again hard evidence that Obama is no "liberal".

solarhydrocan

(551 posts)
39. Obama himself said his policies are republican
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 04:29 AM
Dec 2013


How he convinced a whole party to embrace Republican "health care" ideas might be a good question. It's fascinating though- if you don't support a republican health care plan you must be....a REPUBLICAN! Hilarious.

Phlem

(6,323 posts)
29. What a bunch of hair on fire alarmists.
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 12:40 AM
Dec 2013

Obama's got this. Do you actually think he would do this to the working class? Try educating yourselves and actually learn about government! What a bunch of .......

OK I'm totally creeping myself out, I was going to do this for longer but I can't. I need t take a shower. Bye.

-p

 

1000words

(7,051 posts)
37. Now, now ... we mustn't criticize the President, folks.
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 01:53 AM
Dec 2013

His position is so tenuous ... his presidency so weak, to do so is simply carrying water for the nutters and racists.

NuttyFluffers

(6,811 posts)
41. "i want my legacy to be about undermined USA sovereignty & lost jobs." :)
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 06:13 AM
Dec 2013

"just like Clinton! except he was also lucky enough to kick desperate welfare kids in the ass, too."

... disappointing!

pampango

(24,692 posts)
50. Either that or he wants an alternative to the rules of the WTO and an unrenegotiated NAFTA.
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 12:44 PM
Dec 2013

The TPP has chapters on labor rights and the environment. The WTO and NAFTA, not so much.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
52. It sounds like the TPP will monetize environmental concerns.
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 01:32 PM
Dec 2013

And that countries can sue for damages if other countries - or municipalities - say no to things like fracking.
Just having a chapter doesn't mean much - too bad it is so secret.

pampango

(24,692 posts)
55. I agree that just having chapters on labor rights and the environment does not mean much if
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 02:18 PM
Dec 2013

there is no substance to them. If there are not strict standards and effective enforcement mechanisms (that might dismay the 'national sovereignty' folks), then they will mean nothing.

 

NorthCarolina

(11,197 posts)
47. America is in the process of self correcting politically <<leftward.
Tue Dec 17, 2013, 11:48 AM
Dec 2013

The TW'ers have been rightfully exposed, and now realize they need to step up their efforts on behalf of their benefactors while they still have the power to do so. Time is running out for them.

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