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Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
Sun Dec 22, 2013, 12:50 PM Dec 2013

Report: US Furious at Israel Equipment Transfer to China

Source: Arutz Sheva

A top Israeli defense official was forced to step down last week, according to Maariv Sunday, after the United States expressed fury at Israel's decision to sell military equipment to China.

Meir Shalit, the Department Head for Defense Exports at the Defense Ministry, announced his resignation last week. While Shalit did not announce the reasons behind his resignation, the report claims that he voluntary resigned after US official investigations last month over the transfer revealed that the move took place with his approval. Shalit apologized to the US in a visit late last week.

The conflict, according to the daily, stems from different interpretations of the military weapon support contract between the US and Israel.

Israel explained to US officials that sensitive components of the equipment had been removed before the transfer and were being held in Europe.


Read more: http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/175404#.UrcX95G9XOE

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Report: US Furious at Israel Equipment Transfer to China (Original Post) Jesus Malverde Dec 2013 OP
New USA-Israeli Crisis Involving Defense Exports to China Jesus Malverde Dec 2013 #1
I wasn't aware of incidents occurring in the 90's 2banon Dec 2013 #6
Yep. There have also been "stolen" F-16 engines and quite a few other things. They sell us out in a okaawhatever Dec 2013 #24
Israel is no friend of the US. n/t cosmicone Dec 2013 #2
Agreed SoapBox Dec 2013 #8
Remember the Israelis attacked USS Liberty. TxVietVet Dec 2013 #9
Israel is the US's No. One enemy and has been before most here were born. I still maintain Israel boomersense Dec 2013 #10
Mom's older than Israel though PatrynXX Dec 2013 #16
I think it is a close call between Israel and Saudi Arabia as to who is the bigger enemy. olddad56 Dec 2013 #17
' I still maintain Israel was the false flag in 9-11.' King_David Dec 2013 #21
And yet we POUR Plucketeer Dec 2013 #11
Someone just lost their alerting privileges for 24 hours ... Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2013 #14
Hey Tues...pls. educate me dixiegrrrrl Dec 2013 #18
If someone alerts on a post and the verdict comes back 0-6 Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2013 #19
Ahhh....yes, does help. dixiegrrrrl Dec 2013 #20
good! eom 2banon Dec 2013 #25
that much is clear PatrynXX Dec 2013 #15
Cut them loose. Joe Bacon Dec 2013 #3
can't have one of our best beneficiaries competing with us.... mike_c Dec 2013 #4
Let The Excuses Begin! chuckstevens Dec 2013 #5
The product Israel sold the Chinese is a miniature cooling system for missiles..nt Jesus Malverde Dec 2013 #7
Ah. n/t Ghost Dog Dec 2013 #22
The US is also concerned that Britain is going to allow private companies TwilightGardener Dec 2013 #12
Dammit, we sold that shit to you so you could oppress a civilian population! Scootaloo Dec 2013 #13
at the very heart of the new affair... Jesus Malverde Dec 2013 #23
They knew what they were doing cosmicone Dec 2013 #26
You see why I Laugh Out Loud.. sendero Dec 2013 #27
+1 indeed LMFAO L0oniX Dec 2013 #28
We give them money and tech and then they sell it to china? Marrah_G Dec 2013 #29
What are friends for? Octafish Dec 2013 #30
Last night I google image searched Jesus Malverde Dec 2013 #31

Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
1. New USA-Israeli Crisis Involving Defense Exports to China
Sun Dec 22, 2013, 01:00 PM
Dec 2013
The head of the DECA at the IMOD is expected to resign after the U.S. expressed it`s anger over the deal

Another crisis in USA-Israeli relations involving the selling of advanced technologies by Israel to China: the Head of the Defense Export Control Agency (DECA) at IMOD, Meir Shalit, is expected to announce his resignation this week owing to the transfer of an advanced technological device to a european company, which then transfered it to China.

Shalit has returned this weekend from a trip to the USA, where he officially explained to the Americans how the aforesaid Israeli export ended up in China. According to findings in Israel, the technology was sold to a european company who transfered it to China.

Both the USA and Israel fear that the advanced technology in question has been leaked by China to Iran. The new affair, revealed here for the first time, is not connected to last week's revelations, based on documents leaked by a former employee of the NSA, according to which the USA had eavesdropped on senior Israeli officials.

However, this is not the first time that USA-Israeli relations are marred in connection with the transfer of advanced technologies to China. In the late 1990s, the Americans became enraged at Israel owing to a transaction sanctioned by the Director General of the Israel Ministry of Defense at the time, Major-General (res.) Ilan Biran, involving the selling of the Falcon surveillance aircraft to China. Israel was forced to cancel the transaction and even pay damages to the Chinese in the amount of about US$ 300 million.

http://www.israeldefense.com/?CategoryID=483&ArticleID=2648
 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
6. I wasn't aware of incidents occurring in the 90's
Sun Dec 22, 2013, 01:42 PM
Dec 2013

quite astonishing history of betrayal considering we finance their defense. just wow.

okaawhatever

(9,462 posts)
24. Yep. There have also been "stolen" F-16 engines and quite a few other things. They sell us out in a
Mon Dec 23, 2013, 02:21 AM
Dec 2013

second militarily. They've worked with Russia for years, but China has been more recent.

 

boomersense

(147 posts)
10. Israel is the US's No. One enemy and has been before most here were born. I still maintain Israel
Sun Dec 22, 2013, 02:26 PM
Dec 2013

was the false flag in 9-11.

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
16. Mom's older than Israel though
Sun Dec 22, 2013, 04:00 PM
Dec 2013
and a couple of uncles tsk tsk. need like a slight history lesson on how the false country of Israel land came to be.
 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
11. And yet we POUR
Sun Dec 22, 2013, 02:33 PM
Dec 2013

borrowed dollars on them while cutting funds for US veterans! I really and truly hope there IS a "rapture" where ALL the crazies leave this planet to those of us who think rationally!

Tuesday Afternoon

(56,912 posts)
14. Someone just lost their alerting privileges for 24 hours ...
Sun Dec 22, 2013, 03:39 PM
Dec 2013

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dixiegrrrrl

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18. Hey Tues...pls. educate me
Sun Dec 22, 2013, 04:11 PM
Dec 2013

I don't catch all the rule changes here.....
what is this about losing alerting privileges????

Tuesday Afternoon

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19. If someone alerts on a post and the verdict comes back 0-6
Sun Dec 22, 2013, 04:24 PM
Dec 2013

unanimous to Leave It Alone then that Alerter looses their alerting privileges for 24 hours. I think it was implemented to cut back on frivolous alerts. There may be a thread about it in the Announcements Forum. This is my understanding. Hope it helps.

PatrynXX

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15. that much is clear
Sun Dec 22, 2013, 03:58 PM
Dec 2013

bit odd for Israel to be Supporting Iran .. sounds like they intend for a war. hard to just lob bombs over for no reason. Not talking Israeli people but the Govt is a bunch of Terrorists

 

chuckstevens

(1,201 posts)
5. Let The Excuses Begin!
Sun Dec 22, 2013, 01:31 PM
Dec 2013

I'm so tried of the apologists of Israel making excuses. Yet to contradict myself, Israel is not the problem: It's the loony tune LaCood? party of the Prime Minister. They need to be voted out at the first opportunity.

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
12. The US is also concerned that Britain is going to allow private companies
Sun Dec 22, 2013, 02:33 PM
Dec 2013

to have shared US/British defense technology--and thus lose control of it. Maybe it's time to reassess our partnerships and hold our technology a little closer to the vest. In the case of Israel--shame on them. And shame on Congresscritters who want to double and triple the amount of military aid we give them, if this is what they do with it.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
13. Dammit, we sold that shit to you so you could oppress a civilian population!
Sun Dec 22, 2013, 03:14 PM
Dec 2013

Not so you could pawn it off for a profit!

Yeah. The US has no room for "outrage" on this one, since it's outrageous that we're arming Israel in the first fucking place.

Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
23. at the very heart of the new affair...
Sun Dec 22, 2013, 11:23 PM
Dec 2013
So, at the very heart of the new affair, the Americans have become enraged recently after discovering that DECA had sanctioned the selling of an advanced technological device (a miniature cooling system by Ricor Cryogenic & Vacuum Systems, used for miniaturized electro-optical equipment and even for missile mechanisms), which ednded up in Chinese hands. Israel is committed to adhering to US dictates on the Chinese issue in view of the strategic relations between Israel and the USA, and also because the USA, for its part, regularly provides Israel with advanced technologies of its own along with defense aid on the scope of about US$ 3 billion per year.


http://www.israeldefense.com/?CategoryID=483&ArticleID=2648

The company that sold the state of the art military technology to China:

http://www.ricor-usa.com/
 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
26. They knew what they were doing
Mon Dec 23, 2013, 08:21 AM
Dec 2013

They were buying China's vote against Iran in the UNSC and most probably, knowing how the Chinese government operates, there was a quid pro quo in place.

This based upon the fact that Israel doesn't need money from selling the little parts.

sendero

(28,552 posts)
27. You see why I Laugh Out Loud..
Mon Dec 23, 2013, 10:19 AM
Dec 2013

.... when someone repeats the oft-stated lie, that Israel is "our friend in the Middle East".

Israel is no one's friend.

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