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Omaha Steve

(99,618 posts)
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 06:28 AM Dec 2013

Democrats Turn to Minimum Wage as 2014 Strategy

Source: NY Times

By JONATHAN MARTIN and MICHAEL D. SHEAR

WASHINGTON — Democratic Party leaders, bruised by months of attacks on the new health care program, have found an issue they believe can lift their fortunes both locally and nationally in 2014: an increase in the minimum wage.

The effort to take advantage of growing populism among voters in both parties is being coordinated by officials from the White House, labor unions and liberal advocacy groups.

In a series of strategy meetings and conference calls among them in recent weeks, they have focused on two levels: an effort to raise the federal minimum wage, which will be pushed by President Obama and congressional leaders, and a campaign to place state-level minimum wage proposals on the ballot in states with hotly contested congressional races.

With polls showing widespread support for an increase in the $7.25-per-hour federal minimum wage among both Republican and Democratic voters, top Democrats see not only a wedge issue that they hope will place Republican candidates in a difficult position, but also a tool with which to enlarge the electorate in a nonpresidential election, when turnout among minorities and youths typically drops off.

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Demonstrators outside a Wendy’s restaurant in New York this month called for a higher minimum wage for fast-food workers.
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Democrats Turn to Minimum Wage as 2014 Strategy (Original Post) Omaha Steve Dec 2013 OP
Good. k&r n/t Laelth Dec 2013 #1
Minimum Wage yeoman6987 Dec 2013 #30
I agree. Laelth Dec 2013 #31
About time FreakinDJ Dec 2013 #2
a belated response prompted by popular demand and a looming election. KG Dec 2013 #3
Must you piss on this? Please, take a happy pill. This Debbie Downerism really gets old. RBInMaine Dec 2013 #6
No. It's not "Debbie Downerism". Wilms Dec 2013 #36
Debbie Downer LOL n/t KG Dec 2013 #44
Thanks for summarizing one of the (many) causes for my swilton Dec 2013 #37
When all else fails... Demeter Dec 2013 #4
All else hasn't failed.The campaign is just getting started. Must the ultra left crap on everything? RBInMaine Dec 2013 #7
We are just re-gifting what we have already been given. n/t jtuck004 Dec 2013 #22
LOL..... sendero Dec 2013 #48
Hurry! get your bucket out to catch some of the trickle down! adirondacker Jan 2014 #55
Ultra left? Try finding, what used to be, the center just a few decades ago. nt adirondacker Jan 2014 #54
democratic 2014 strategy should be simple beachbum bob Dec 2013 #5
Also include IMMIGRATION REFORM and STUDENT LOAN reform. Go on OFFENSE on these, and you CRUSH the RBInMaine Dec 2013 #9
I think this has been the plan ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2013 #15
It's a start. It needs to be more encompassing and focused ... Auggie Dec 2013 #8
How about: "Renewing The American Dream" or "Rebuilding The Middle Class", or something like that? RBInMaine Dec 2013 #11
Yes, something like that. n/t Auggie Dec 2013 #28
That's fine.. sendero Dec 2013 #49
Here is the ENTIRE agenda the Dems should pursue which would CRUSH the GOP: RBInMaine Dec 2013 #10
Post removed Post removed Dec 2013 #14
Why are you reading out of the right wing playbook? It is about a PATH to citizenship for people RBInMaine Dec 2013 #16
because the poster failed to take the "don't make an ass out of yourself" primer grantcart Dec 2013 #39
No, it wouldn't ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2013 #24
Good points Victor_c3 Dec 2013 #35
Good luck with that ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2013 #46
BINGO ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2013 #18
This should be the beginning swilton Dec 2013 #42
Also, ATTACK the GOP for the SHUTDOWN and as the "MOST DO-NOTHING HOUSE OF REPS EVER!" RBInMaine Dec 2013 #12
We need long term solutions...... Cryptoad Dec 2013 #13
Yes, in the longer term. But in the short term, PUSH LIKE HELL for the higher minimum wage. RBInMaine Dec 2013 #17
True dat! nt Cryptoad Dec 2013 #27
I suspect that is coming ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2013 #26
Oh hogwash seabeckind Dec 2013 #19
Addendum seabeckind Dec 2013 #20
Still waiting for card-check. Fuddnik Dec 2013 #25
It should be 21.00! NYtoBush-Drop Dead Dec 2013 #21
I would expand that to include raises for all workers. Kingofalldems Dec 2013 #23
I Am Really Happy This issue is Rising to the Top On the Road Dec 2013 #29
I don't think it works that way. seabeckind Dec 2013 #40
In Addition to Minimum-Wage Jobs, On the Road Jan 2014 #51
Also the legalization of medical marijuana. wilsonbooks Dec 2013 #32
Don't forget expanding Social Security too. 4dsc Dec 2013 #33
The Chairman of the Confederation of British Industry intaglio Dec 2013 #34
Also jobs. Nobody You Know Dec 2013 #38
I'd like to see another thing seabeckind Dec 2013 #41
Sounds like a winning strategy. Ash_F Dec 2013 #43
I don't know if that's a good area to focus on. Many minimum wage earners aren't old enough to vote. Pterodactyl Dec 2013 #45
But MOST minimum wage earners ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2013 #47
Thanks, 1Strong! Pterodactyl Jan 2014 #50
To what level? Springslips Jan 2014 #52
YES YES YES! Ash_F Jan 2014 #53
Alms, alms for the poor? reddread Jan 2014 #56
Strategy FiveGoodMen Jan 2014 #57
 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
30. Minimum Wage
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 10:35 AM
Dec 2013

I still don't know after all these years, nobody thought to attach the minimum wage to the annual COLA that Seniors for Social Security get. Seems like the perfect solution to me.

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
31. I agree.
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 10:41 AM
Dec 2013

The Federal minimum wage should be adjusted for inflation yearly. As Elizabeth Warren has shown, if the 1962 minimum wage were adjusted for both inflation and increases in productivity, it would be about $22.00/hr. now ($44,000/year). It's no wonder families could survive on just one income in 1962.

-Laelth

KG

(28,751 posts)
3. a belated response prompted by popular demand and a looming election.
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 07:58 AM
Dec 2013

otherwise, rest assured the dems would ignore the issue.

 

Wilms

(26,795 posts)
36. No. It's not "Debbie Downerism".
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 02:45 PM
Dec 2013

It's a reasonable critique. You want "old"? Try DLC, Third Way, DINO, "I feel your pain" Clintonism. THAT'S old.

 

RBInMaine

(13,570 posts)
7. All else hasn't failed.The campaign is just getting started. Must the ultra left crap on everything?
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 08:23 AM
Dec 2013

sendero

(28,552 posts)
48. LOL.....
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 10:59 AM
Dec 2013

..... if only the minimum wage was even in the top ten of what is facing the poor and middle class.

I sometimes wonder if I'm living in the same country as some of these retarded politicians.

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
5. democratic 2014 strategy should be simple
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 08:18 AM
Dec 2013

>>>federal min wage hike
>>>extended unemployment federal benefits
>>>pentagon spending
>>>taxcode reform


place all GOP candidates on defense against each and everyone of those

 

RBInMaine

(13,570 posts)
9. Also include IMMIGRATION REFORM and STUDENT LOAN reform. Go on OFFENSE on these, and you CRUSH the
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 08:25 AM
Dec 2013

GOP.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
15. I think this has been the plan ...
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 09:01 AM
Dec 2013

for a while now; but (strategically) the time is just now getting right for this to be acted upon. The truth is, a vast majority of the electorate was not ready to support these moves ... that's why we got the teaparty/modern gop.

That said, I doubt pentagon spending will make the list because too many people have jobs directly tied to pentagon spending. So I suspect that will be replaced with immigration reform and veteran retirement restoration.

Auggie

(31,167 posts)
8. It's a start. It needs to be more encompassing and focused ...
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 08:23 AM
Dec 2013

and it needs a name -- our name -- before the conservative spin doctors label it for us.

Something along the likes of "New Deal."

 

RBInMaine

(13,570 posts)
11. How about: "Renewing The American Dream" or "Rebuilding The Middle Class", or something like that?
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 08:32 AM
Dec 2013
 

RBInMaine

(13,570 posts)
10. Here is the ENTIRE agenda the Dems should pursue which would CRUSH the GOP:
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 08:30 AM
Dec 2013

* Income Inequality / Minimum Wage Hike

* Extended Unemployment Benefits

* Comprehensive Immigration Reform including THE DREAM ACT

* Tax Code Reform To Eliminate Measures That Help The Rich And No One Else

* Comprehensive Student Loan Reform And Measures To Help Make College More Affordable

* Staying On Track To End The Afghanistan War

* Staying On Track To Create A Peace Agreement With Iran IF Possible

Response to RBInMaine (Reply #10)

 

RBInMaine

(13,570 posts)
16. Why are you reading out of the right wing playbook? It is about a PATH to citizenship for people
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 09:06 AM
Dec 2013

ALREADY here. It is also about better securing the border and harsher penalties for those who hire illegals.

"So what if Republicans took control of the Senate"? Are you serious? Are you sure you shouldn't actually be on Free Republic?

Some REPUBLICANS even favor comprehensive immigration reform as it has already passed the Senate. Boehner won't take it up in the House. My goodness, this is favored by a majority of the people of the nation. It should be done. The Dems need to use this to CRUSH the GOP and further destroy them with Latino voters.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
39. because the poster failed to take the "don't make an ass out of yourself" primer
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 03:05 PM
Dec 2013

that most right wing trolls take before they get here. Usually the bs doesn't seep out until around post 200.
 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
24. No, it wouldn't ...
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 09:28 AM
Dec 2013

I live in a border state, less than 60 miles from the Mexican border, so I am familiar with your anti-immigration myths.

Truth is ... Amnesty would INCREASE wages ... since the undocumented workers that are already working in the economy will no longer be under-paid; the schools will not see an increase (in attendance) because the children of the undocumented are already in the schools; but they will recognize an increase in funding (under current state formulae) because the school systems would be able to claim the children of the undocumented; Amnesty would not destroy neighborhoods, as immigrant neighborhoods tend to be some of the more stable, self-reliant communities, even without the communities trust of law enforcement that comes with undocumented status; and finally, studies indicate that legal status actually reduces reliance on the social safety net ... particularly the use of emergency rooms for healthcare, as this is the only social safety net mechanism that the undocumented routinely utilize.

Victor_c3

(3,557 posts)
35. Good points
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 02:23 PM
Dec 2013

I'm going to have take those points for my next confrontation with the vocal republicans I work with.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
46. Good luck with that ...
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 09:48 AM
Dec 2013

myths are more powerful than facts.

I suspect the anti-amnesty crowd is more concerned with their having to compete on a more equal footing with a new class of workers, previously locked out due to their legal status.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
18. BINGO ...
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 09:09 AM
Dec 2013

funny ... that looks a lot like what President Obama has been promoting since 2009!

Yes ... I know ... "But what about TTP and Keystone and ... Bengazi!"

Maybe the Democrats are finally catching up to that corporatist wall-street lackey in the whitehouse

 

swilton

(5,069 posts)
42. This should be the beginning
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 08:16 PM
Dec 2013

add to that investments in public education and not the charter schools and endless testing programs we're getting from Arne Duncan.

Cryptoad

(8,254 posts)
13. We need long term solutions......
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 08:53 AM
Dec 2013

The Middle Class needs more than a band aid of minimum wage.... We need Government Policy that rewards companies for a structured business models which pays their employees a fair living wage in correlation to the Company's total outlays , profit and executive salaries! All the while, penalizing the companies that continue to rape the Middle Class and working poor by denying them their tax loopholes and low tax rates!

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
26. I suspect that is coming ...
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 09:32 AM
Dec 2013

but we need a majority in the House to accomplish any of that ... and this is a drip, drip, drip of progressive politics that can get us there.

seabeckind

(1,957 posts)
19. Oh hogwash
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 09:16 AM
Dec 2013

Nowhere in this thread did I hear one thing about getting totally behind unions and worker rights.

NOFUCKINGWHERE!!!

If we had collective bargaining we wouldn't need to work so hard for minimum wage.

Next change fiscal policy to push for some nice healthy inflation. Not runaway but gradual. Make those f'ers sitting on their investments in money put it where it can do some good. Make them shelter their holdings in real stuff.

Repeal that f'in Taft-Hartley.

NYtoBush-Drop Dead

(490 posts)
21. It should be 21.00!
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 09:17 AM
Dec 2013

If it had kept up with inflation! DO that Dems! And also - raise the wage of our military! There are over 5000 families on food stamps! Pay the military a living wage!!!! Let the Repugs vote against that!

Kingofalldems

(38,454 posts)
23. I would expand that to include raises for all workers.
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 09:22 AM
Dec 2013

'America Needs A Raise' should be the campaign slogan.

On the Road

(20,783 posts)
29. I Am Really Happy This issue is Rising to the Top
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 10:33 AM
Dec 2013

It is by far the simplest and most effective way to assist regular working people. Raising the minimum will even help those making somewhat higher wages, since those will need to keep pace to stay ahead of the minimum.

seabeckind

(1,957 posts)
40. I don't think it works that way.
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 04:58 PM
Dec 2013

No employer has any incentive to change their current wage unless they are forced to. You can't drive wages up by pushing from the bottom, it has to be pulled from up above.

What made the midde class advance was that big employer in town who had positions at tiers from common laborer clear thru skilled up to mgmt levels. There was an established career path and people could advance inside the company.

The bottom tier was usually more than the prevailing wage in the area because the employer valued loyalty and paid for it. There was quite an investment in even the lowest worker.

Add in the deferred compensation in pensions and benefits and that one large employer drove the whole economy of the town. Any other employer had to offer similar benefits to retain their better people.

Then there were the unions that guaranteed that the big employer couldn't start lowballing and use the threat of terminations. That union also guaranteed that the employer couldn't point to the next town over that was offering non-union job at a lower wage and using that as an extortion threat to force the lower wages at the current location.

(Picked up the economic model name the other day for that...beggar-thy-neighbor or race-to-the-bottom).

Then we lost the unions as the outsourcing took away the town's big employer and blamed the union (f'in lie).

So now, where's there to go? Our labor is like the battered wife who has no alternative.

That's wht the democratic platform should be fighting to fix. Get rid of that disgusting right-to-work at the federal level by using the NLRB and NLRA. That's what was promised long ago when that Taft-Hartley screwjob happened.

On the Road

(20,783 posts)
51. In Addition to Minimum-Wage Jobs,
Tue Jan 14, 2014, 09:58 PM
Jan 2014

there are other jobs that require a slightly more skilled or educated workforce. Typically this is done by pricing $X above minimum wage. If a warehouse forklift operator position pays $12/hour now and minimum wage is raised to $12/hour, they will not be able to attract and retain the same employees. The effect shrinks with higher wages, but the point was that raising the minimum affects many more employees than those currently making the minimum.

 

4dsc

(5,787 posts)
33. Don't forget expanding Social Security too.
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 11:15 AM
Dec 2013

I hope enough democratic party members jump on board to help expand SS this election cycle.

intaglio

(8,170 posts)
34. The Chairman of the Confederation of British Industry
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 12:30 PM
Dec 2013

(a sort of UK version of the BBB) has issued the following call (Via the Independent )

The head of the CBI will today call for companies to start paying their staff more, saying the large number of people working for the minimum wage is a “serious challenge” that business and the Government must address.

seabeckind

(1,957 posts)
41. I'd like to see another thing
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 05:04 PM
Dec 2013

Every corporate charter for a public company should include implicit ownership by the employees in that company at a level commensurate with their longevity.

With voting rights and representatives on the board. Executive compensation for public companies should be set by the stockholders and implicit owners...not the board.

If I remember, that particular bill was killed in the HOR a few years back. There is no binding rule.

Pterodactyl

(1,687 posts)
45. I don't know if that's a good area to focus on. Many minimum wage earners aren't old enough to vote.
Mon Dec 30, 2013, 09:53 PM
Dec 2013

Maybe we should focus on health care or something.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
47. But MOST minimum wage earners ...
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 09:51 AM
Dec 2013

ARE of age to vote. There was a graphic to that effect yesterday. I'll try and find it.

Springslips

(533 posts)
52. To what level?
Tue Jan 14, 2014, 10:11 PM
Jan 2014

It has to be 11 per hour or above. Otherwise it is just a paper tiger. 8p/h won't do nothing, and won't GOTV.

 

reddread

(6,896 posts)
56. Alms, alms for the poor?
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 08:38 AM
Jan 2014

Fuck that. COLA's, regulation and real economics would take of the minimum wage.
What kind of fools beg for scraps as a campaign issue?
MAXIMUM WAGE.
DECENT JOBS.
REAL CHANGE.
If you are gonna swallow this shaft, hope for a good tip, and pray they use a rubber.

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