Insane Clown Posse fans sue feds, say FBI gang label is 'un-American'
Source: Detroit Free Press
The U.S. government claims that fans of the Detroit-area rap group Insane Clown Posse known as Juggalos are members of a criminal gang.
But in a lawsuit filed Wednesday, fans blasted that label, saying some have been harassed by police, interrogated, denied admission into the U.S. military, and lost custody of their children just for liking the eccentric musical group. And they now fear losing their jobs and gaining criminal records.
Filed in U.S. District Court in Detroit against the FBI and the Department of Justice, the lawsuit says the governments 2011 designation of the groups fans as a hybrid gang has targeted innocent people across the U.S. who are part of a peaceful, fun-loving movement.
Its un-American, said Farris Haddad, a Southfield attorney whos a longtime fan of the band and helping with the lawsuit. Its as if were living in the Soviet Union.
Read more: http://www.freep.com/article/20140108/ENT04/301080077/Insane-Clown-Posse-to-discuss-fans-gang-label
Also covered by: Al Jazeera America, NY Times
TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)too fucked up to organize a gang.
"Hybrid gang", as in "wannabe gang", might work, but means they need supervision, not jail.
TygrBright
(20,759 posts)>>"But in 2011, the Department of Justice included Juggalos on their National Gang Threat Assessment, saying their members have engaged in criminal activities. They estimated there are about 1 million Juggalos in the U.S."<<
Can you IMAGINE what the DoJ is gonna make of the GOP?
"Paging the ACLU.... urgent call from Republican Congressional Committee...."
Fortunately there's fewer of them every day.
But they're way creepier than juggalos.
amusedly,
Bright
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)even though the entire Republican party is a far bigger threat than some music group.
rocktivity
(44,576 posts)Last I heard, they fired Biohazard as their opening act because when they left the stage, half the audience left, too!
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OnyxCollie
(9,958 posts)God, they were awful 20 years ago.
Maybe they'll team up with Onyx again for a retro rap/metal tour.
rocktivity
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It's taken 20 years, but ICP's chickens have come home to roost. Payback's a female canine, isn't it, guys?
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Nanjing to Seoul
(2,088 posts)Octafish
(55,745 posts)Washington classifying its citizens as potential terrorists due to their musical tastes or other ideology is so old, like the STASI.
rocktivity
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Rap acts have always been attractive money-laundering troughs for gangster drug money.
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Octafish
(55,745 posts)I've heard their music. For me, loud caliope and Faygo don't mix, so I'd thought it had to be something else.
You know who really appreciates drug money? Ask Richard Grasso (left, photo below), then-head of the New York Stock Exchange, as he gives a nice warm hug to Raul Reyes, (photo, right) then-living FARC #2.
The Real Deal: The Ultimate New Business Cold Call
NYSE's Richard Grasso and the Ultimate New Business "Cold Call"
Monday, 18 February 2002, 10:13 am
Column: Catherine Austin Fitts
Lest you think that my comment about the New York Stock Exchange is too strong, let's look at one event that occurred before our "war on drugs" went into high gear through Plan Colombia, banging heads over narco dollar market share in Latin America.
In late June 1999, numerous news services, including Associated Press, reported that Richard Grasso, Chairman of the New York Stock Exchange flew to Colombia to meet with a spokesperson for Raul Reyes of the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Columbia (FARC), the supposed "narco terrorists" with whom we are now at war.
The purpose of the trip was "to bring a message of cooperation from U.S. financial services" and to discuss foreign investment and the future role of U.S. businesses in Colombia.
Some reading in between the lines said to me that Grasso's mission related to the continued circulation of cocaine capital through the US financial system. FARC, the Colombian rebels, were circulating their profits back into local development without the assistance of the American banking and investment system. Worse yet for the outlook for the US stock market's strength from $500 billion - $1 trillion in annual money laundering - FARC was calling for the decriminalization of cocaine.
To understand the threat of decriminalization of the drug trade, just go back to your Sam and Dave estimate and recalculate the numbers given what decriminalization does to drive BIG PERCENT back to SLIM PERCENT and what that means to Wall Street and Washington's cash flows. No narco dollars, no reinvestment into the stock markets, no campaign contributions.
It was only a few days after Grasso's trip that BBC News reported a General Accounting Office (GAO) report to Congress as saying: "Colombia's cocaine and heroin production is set to rise by as much as 50 percent as the U.S. backed drug war flounders, due largely to the growing strength of Marxist rebels"
CONTINUED...
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0202/S00069.htm
Money. Makes the world go 'round. Must be why the Feds go after the low hanging fruit and not the big money.
Nanjing to Seoul
(2,088 posts)I see no insidiousness in this. foolishness yes. Because most people who liked ICP were normally no more than 15 years old when I was 25.
truthisfreedom
(23,146 posts)and knives, hatchets and swords. Makes them seem violent.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)granted it's exceptionally bad taste, but... still
Frank Cannon
(7,570 posts)Must be a pretty small "gang".
Iggo
(47,552 posts)Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)He's on my list.