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Hissyspit

(45,788 posts)
Tue Jan 14, 2014, 06:27 PM Jan 2014

Breaking: Oklahoma Ban on Gay Marriage Ruled Unconstitutional

Source: Tulsa World

Tuesday, January 14, 2014

Oklahoma ban on gay marriage ruled unconstitutional

BY DAVID HARPER, Tulsa World

U.S. Senior District Judge Terence Kern ruled Tuesday that Oklahoma’s ban on marriage equality is unconstitutional.

The ruling is stayed pending appeal, meaning marriages will not occur immediately in Oklahoma.

Read more: http://www.newsok.com/oklahoma-ban-on-gay-marriage-ruled-unconstitutional/article/3923784

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Breaking: Oklahoma Ban on Gay Marriage Ruled Unconstitutional (Original Post) Hissyspit Jan 2014 OP
Good news, they are falling like dominoes. n/t Tx4obama Jan 2014 #1
+1. closeupready Jan 2014 #6
+2 Faygo Kid Jan 2014 #11
Poor Oklahoma. First Satan at the statehouse, now this. Comrade Grumpy Jan 2014 #2
Awesome news!! dbackjon Jan 2014 #3
Great news! hrmjustin Jan 2014 #4
This may end up in front of the SCOTUS Berlin Expat Jan 2014 #5
Agree that it will be sooner rather than later. While the Constitution is silent on the issue, I 24601 Jan 2014 #8
That's what Berlin Expat Jan 2014 #10
I thought the full faith and credit clause required one state to honor merrily Jan 2014 #23
another one bites the dust ... srican69 Jan 2014 #7
No gays in Oklahoma according to Sen. Inhofe. Botany Jan 2014 #9
As tempting as it is, Helen Highwater Jan 2014 #12
I am straight and not related to Inhofe Botany Jan 2014 #16
Well I guess it is 5 o'clock somewhere CFLDem Jan 2014 #30
He's certainly pulling that out of his ass. sakabatou Jan 2014 #22
How can he possibly know who has or has not had homosexual merrily Jan 2014 #24
Clinton nominated this judge alp227 Jan 2014 #13
The wheels of justice turn slowly, yet grind exceedingly fine. nt msanthrope Jan 2014 #14
Sometimes. And sometimes they don't grind at all. merrily Jan 2014 #25
I can just hear the delicious sound of SoapBox Jan 2014 #15
Interesting that the Oklahoma AG was smart enough to file for the stay in case they lost davidpdx Jan 2014 #17
Yeah, I'm surprised some of these blue (or at least purple) states like OR, WI, IL haven't done this nomorenomore08 Jan 2014 #20
A measure will be on the ballot in Oregon this fall davidpdx Jan 2014 #21
, blkmusclmachine Jan 2014 #18
Another state my newly married niece and her gorgeous spouse can visit! raven mad Jan 2014 #19
Congrats to the couple. merrily Jan 2014 #26
Thanks from them both, merrily- raven mad Jan 2014 #27
They're welcome! merrily Jan 2014 #28
So is Seward, but our state laws are barbaric. raven mad Jan 2014 #29
I often find it difficult to distinguish merrily Jan 2014 #31

Berlin Expat

(950 posts)
5. This may end up in front of the SCOTUS
Tue Jan 14, 2014, 06:42 PM
Jan 2014

sooner than I expected.

I was thinking 2015 or 2016 - looks like the Supreme Court can't sidestep this issue forever.

24601

(3,961 posts)
8. Agree that it will be sooner rather than later. While the Constitution is silent on the issue, I
Tue Jan 14, 2014, 06:50 PM
Jan 2014

judge that States' attempts to ban will ultimately fail because of Article IV's full faith & credit clause.

Berlin Expat

(950 posts)
10. That's what
Tue Jan 14, 2014, 07:20 PM
Jan 2014

it's starting to look like.

The RW'ers and the Bible Thumpers aren't gonna like it, but 40-odd years ago, that same mentality shrieked about how interracial marriage would be the end of the United States, and as always they were wrong.

Eventually, they will die, and all the indications I've seen are that younger people, such as Millennials, are generally quite accepting of same-sex marriage.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
23. I thought the full faith and credit clause required one state to honor
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 06:47 AM
Jan 2014

the laws and judgments of another state. Does it go beyond that?

I recall a story a few years ago about Texas refusing to grant a divorce to a gay couple who had been married in a state that had recognized marriage between people of the same gender. I don't know whatever finally happened in that case, though. I don't think it ever got to the SCOTUS.

srican69

(1,426 posts)
7. another one bites the dust ...
Tue Jan 14, 2014, 06:48 PM
Jan 2014

And another one gone, and another one gone
Another one bites the dust
Hey, I'm gonna get you too
Another one bites the dust

Botany

(70,501 posts)
9. No gays in Oklahoma according to Sen. Inhofe.
Tue Jan 14, 2014, 07:13 PM
Jan 2014

"I'm really proud to say that in the recorded history of our family, we've never had a divorce or
any kind of homosexual relationship." 6/6/2006 Sen Inhofe.

 

Helen Highwater

(30 posts)
12. As tempting as it is,
Tue Jan 14, 2014, 07:27 PM
Jan 2014

I don't quite have the heart to inform Inhofe of the inconvenient truth about that.
Can you imagine trying to come out to a vile old patriarch like that guy? EEK

Botany

(70,501 posts)
16. I am straight and not related to Inhofe
Tue Jan 14, 2014, 08:51 PM
Jan 2014

..... but I can't imagine what would be like to live in the Inhofe family and
BTW I have no doubt that Inhofe has gay and or lesbians in his family.

Sooner or later gay marriage will be the law of the land ..... end of story.
The equal protection clause of the 14th amendment makes that a done deal.

BTW welcome to DU.

Have some chips & dip .... you can have a drink too.

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
15. I can just hear the delicious sound of
Tue Jan 14, 2014, 08:41 PM
Jan 2014

PukeTerroristBagger heads exploding!

Love that sound!

Opps forgot...BENGHAZI!

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
17. Interesting that the Oklahoma AG was smart enough to file for the stay in case they lost
Tue Jan 14, 2014, 09:45 PM
Jan 2014

whereas Utah totally forgot. We now have two very deep red states where it has been found unconstitutional.

I don't understand for the life of me why there hasn't been a challenge to the Oregon law.

nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
20. Yeah, I'm surprised some of these blue (or at least purple) states like OR, WI, IL haven't done this
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 02:50 AM
Jan 2014

yet. But maybe in the next few years we'll get a blanket ruling that covers the whole U.S.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
21. A measure will be on the ballot in Oregon this fall
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 03:59 AM
Jan 2014

which if passed would legalize same-sex marriage and overturn the 2004 measure passed by the voters. The polling looks pretty good, but it might be close.

raven mad

(4,940 posts)
27. Thanks from them both, merrily-
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 07:25 AM
Jan 2014

They're very happy, and so are the kids! All those years of waiting!! Even with the powers-of-attorney they both carry, they were scared to scuba off the Florida Keys because of the archaic laws, should one be hurt. Now, at least when my niece is invited to Norman (University of Oklahoma) for talks (computer expert, that gal!) she won't be scared to go!

merrily

(45,251 posts)
28. They're welcome!
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 07:37 AM
Jan 2014

I am glad they protected themselves legally, as best they could. ??

I had experience regarding getting medical records and medical information from the medical team of an elderly relative.

After that, I wrote up various papers for myself--instructions on releasing medical info, instructions on visitation while hospitalized, a medical proxy, and a power of attorney for decisions involving property, money, etc.

We all need those kinds of things, but especially members of the GLBT community whose state laws discriminate against them. And we shouldn't wait until we age or feel ill, either.

ETA: Cape Cod is nice.

raven mad

(4,940 posts)
29. So is Seward, but our state laws are barbaric.
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 07:55 AM
Jan 2014

For a state so steeped in "personal freedom" (and believe me, libertarians outnumber dems AND repukes), we're stuck in the "OMFG, he/she's a HOMO and it's gonna infect me stage. Sigh. Only when marriage equality becomes a federal law will it be truly right. My BFF and her partner of 45 years! can't legally be married in a church. And transgender? Forget it! Another great friend was transgendered 30 years ago, married a wonderful guy, but had to go elsewhere so her Methodist minister mom could perform the ceremony where it would be recognized!

merrily

(45,251 posts)
31. I often find it difficult to distinguish
Wed Jan 15, 2014, 08:51 AM
Jan 2014

between many libertarians and Republicans.

They say they are different, but it comes down to anti-government, anti choice, anti GLBT, anti any gun legislation whatever anti tax, etc. I guess some libertarians are less willing to open the wallet for defense than Republicans.

And then, there is the Bill Maher type libertarian; and he is very different from Republicans.


Anyway, I think Libertarians have made up their minds that they will not get elected to certain offices unless they cast their lot with Republicans; and that means with the far religious right, too, because, without them, the Republicans can't win elections, IMO.

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