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Redfairen

(1,276 posts)
Sat Jan 25, 2014, 01:43 AM Jan 2014

Blue Cross cancels policies that North Carolina same-sex couples bought under Affordable Care Act

Source: Charlotte Observer

Blue Cross and Blue Shield, the state’s biggest health insurer, has systematically canceled family insurance policies it sold last month to gay and lesbian couples in North Carolina under the Affordable Care Act.

The insurer canceled policies of 20 couples – some who were legally married in states that recognize gay marriage – and encouraged them to reapply for separate insurance policies as unmarried individuals. The couples received calls from Blue Cross in mid-January, several weeks after they purchased their family health insurance, and were told their family coverage was invalid.

Blue Cross’ strategy has stung same-sex couples and gay-rights advocates because the nonprofit insurer offers domestic partner benefits to its own employees. Blue Cross insurance plans offered by large companies in North Carolina also include health benefits for employees and their same-sex partner.

“I was so taken aback by it; I was speechless,” said Al Hinman, who moved with his husband to Durham from New York last year. “It was wrong, and it shouldn’t have happened that way. For 24 years we’ve been on the same insurance with a few gaps.”



Read more: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2014/01/24/4637930/blue-cross-cancels-policies-that.html

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Blue Cross cancels policies that North Carolina same-sex couples bought under Affordable Care Act (Original Post) Redfairen Jan 2014 OP
Blue Cross in NC is garbage. Hissyspit Jan 2014 #1
That makes it an even dumber PR move.... Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2014 #3
"It's Putin.." Cha Jan 2014 #8
Let me guess,...they are terrified of the local reaction since it's a "Red State".... Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2014 #2
No, to some Americans, they believe this is the Jesus States of America. nt valerief Jan 2014 #16
There are some that believe America has to be "perfect" or Jesus won't come back.... Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2014 #20
BCBS kardonb Jan 2014 #21
grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr uppityperson Jan 2014 #4
I love the sig line, uppity... awoke_in_2003 Jan 2014 #23
I agree it makes no sense davidpdx Jan 2014 #5
assholes stg81 Jan 2014 #6
Oh Come on! lib87 Jan 2014 #7
Shut NC BCBS down! ReRe Jan 2014 #9
North Carolina does not recognize gay marriages yeoman6987 Jan 2014 #11
Exactly, this current mess is absolutely ridiculous. It is creating a nightmare not RKP5637 Jan 2014 #27
Selective quotation is selective and deceptive... DRoseDARs Jan 2014 #10
And who wrote that archaiac language and who failed to update it for a mandated law? Bluenorthwest Jan 2014 #14
They need to change their fucking language, Scruffy Rumbler Jan 2014 #17
Rewrite the boilerplate. Now. Send out tiny stickers. aquart Jan 2014 #24
Looks like this could be a place where all of us could make a difference or at least those all jwirr Jan 2014 #12
The Insurance Companies are the problem. Obama insisted on no public option Bluenorthwest Jan 2014 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author blkmusclmachine Jan 2014 #25
BHO did more that "insist on no public option." Hell, he actively WORKED AGAINST IT! blkmusclmachine Jan 2014 #26
I have to tell ya, TDale313 Jan 2014 #28
What if you live in a state that does recognize gay marriage HockeyMom Jan 2014 #15
They should, it should only come down to in/out of network costs CatholicEdHead Jan 2014 #19
Disgusting, naked homophobia and discrimination Politicub Jan 2014 #18
I'm keeping a CLOSE eye on this libnnc Jan 2014 #22
Disgusting.... Jesus Malverde Jan 2014 #29
 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
3. That makes it an even dumber PR move....
Sat Jan 25, 2014, 02:03 AM
Jan 2014

They just opened themselves up to being associated with Putin.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
2. Let me guess,...they are terrified of the local reaction since it's a "Red State"....
Sat Jan 25, 2014, 02:01 AM
Jan 2014

They didn't get the memo from Obama that this is the United States of America.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
20. There are some that believe America has to be "perfect" or Jesus won't come back....
Sat Jan 25, 2014, 02:40 PM
Jan 2014

"Perfect" being defined as "everybody is a God Fearing WHITE Reaganite".

 

kardonb

(777 posts)
21. BCBS
Sat Jan 25, 2014, 03:22 PM
Jan 2014

more likelt . they have been lobbied and payed off by the repuke party thats stuck in the dark ages .

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
5. I agree it makes no sense
Sat Jan 25, 2014, 02:13 AM
Jan 2014

My first wife worked for BCBS in Oregon and before we were married I was added to her insurance policy.

It would be interesting to find out if BCBS is doing this in other states or if this is an isolated incidence.

lib87

(535 posts)
7. Oh Come on!
Sat Jan 25, 2014, 02:19 AM
Jan 2014
Blue Cross’ strategy has stung same-sex couples and gay-rights advocates because the nonprofit insurer offers domestic partner benefits to its own employees.


But why...sigh.

BCBS' attempt to attain more money from customers is disgusting.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
9. Shut NC BCBS down!
Sat Jan 25, 2014, 03:09 AM
Jan 2014

Either that or the state needs to get universal health care. I know, fat chance on either one of those ideas. They need to contact the ACA people and tell them what happened pronto. If ACA can't find another insurer for those couples & their families, then scream to high effing heaven. Call Rachel, STAT!!!

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
11. North Carolina does not recognize gay marriages
Sat Jan 25, 2014, 07:59 AM
Jan 2014

I believe they need to sue the federal government over this so at least the Supreme Court can rule on this. It is going to be a problem for many gay couples moving to states that do not recognize gay marriage. They might as well get this settled pronto. The Supreme Court can make the states recognize all gay marriages in all 50 states. That is really the best option to help all current and future gay couples moving to states that don't recognize gay marriage.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
27. Exactly, this current mess is absolutely ridiculous. It is creating a nightmare not
Sat Jan 25, 2014, 10:32 PM
Jan 2014

only for gay couples, but also the infrastructure for administration of work benefits, insurance, taxes and a host of problems/inconsistencies. Also, we need to get back to what equality means in the US. I had thought it meant for all.

 

DRoseDARs

(6,810 posts)
10. Selective quotation is selective and deceptive...
Sat Jan 25, 2014, 04:02 AM
Jan 2014

BCBS didn't do this by choice, they were legally bound and probably in other states too. The very next 3 paragraphs you decided to not post:

"The problem is traced to boilerplate terminology in Blue Cross policies that define “spouse” as “opposite sex.” North Carolina insurance law does not prohibit selling coverage to homosexual couples, but Blue Cross was legally bound by the restrictive contract language in its individual plans, said Kerry Hall, spokeswoman for the N.C. Department of Insurance.

There could be similar language embedded in insurance small print in other states, but North Carolina is the only state where cancellations of same-sex customers have surfaced so far, said Brian Moulton, legal director for Human Rights Campaign, a national gay-rights organization in Washington, D.C.

Blue Cross has vowed to update the archaic language in 2015. The company says it plans next year to offer the same insurance options to same-sex married couples and couples in domestic partnerships that are offered to everyone else."

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
14. And who wrote that archaiac language and who failed to update it for a mandated law?
Sat Jan 25, 2014, 10:44 AM
Jan 2014

BCBS. God did not write that language, the Company wrote it, then they left it in place knowing full well this would be the result. Boilerplate does not mean 'that which our lawyers carefully crafted, checked and rechecked'.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
12. Looks like this could be a place where all of us could make a difference or at least those all
Sat Jan 25, 2014, 10:07 AM
Jan 2014

across the US who have BC/BS. Cancel them and go to another insurance company. I do not have this policy but I would not select it even if asked.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
13. The Insurance Companies are the problem. Obama insisted on no public option
Sat Jan 25, 2014, 10:37 AM
Jan 2014

and this is what we get. Obama refused to advocate for it as he promised as candidate. "Any bill I sign must contain a strong public option."

Response to Bluenorthwest (Reply #13)

 

blkmusclmachine

(16,149 posts)
26. BHO did more that "insist on no public option." Hell, he actively WORKED AGAINST IT!
Sat Jan 25, 2014, 10:04 PM
Jan 2014

His phony campaign lies notwithstanding.

TDale313

(7,820 posts)
28. I have to tell ya,
Sat Jan 25, 2014, 10:40 PM
Jan 2014

Personally, any time anyone goes to the BHO thing, I find it kinda hard to process any other points they're trying to make. #dogwhistle.

 

HockeyMom

(14,337 posts)
15. What if you live in a state that does recognize gay marriage
Sat Jan 25, 2014, 11:56 AM
Jan 2014

and are traveling in a state that bans it, does that mean that your insurance won't cover your medical expenses in these states?

CatholicEdHead

(9,740 posts)
19. They should, it should only come down to in/out of network costs
Sat Jan 25, 2014, 01:04 PM
Jan 2014

if you are traveling. Your home address would be in a state that recognizes gay marriage, this NC case is from couples actually living in NC.

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
18. Disgusting, naked homophobia and discrimination
Sat Jan 25, 2014, 12:47 PM
Jan 2014

Glad I switched from Blue Cross last year.

My home state has been flushed down the toilet on so many levels.

libnnc

(9,996 posts)
22. I'm keeping a CLOSE eye on this
Sat Jan 25, 2014, 03:54 PM
Jan 2014

I'm on my wife's BCBS policy. She's a retired federal employee and has a BCBS Federal employee policy which is different than a regular policy.

Haven't received any flak yet but I'm just waiting...

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