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jakeXT

(10,575 posts)
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 10:42 AM Jan 2014

Horror as banker, 39, plunges to his death from headquarters of JP Morgan in Canary Wharf

Source: Daily Mail

A banker has died after jumping 500ft from the top of JP Morgan's European headquarters in London this morning.

The man, who is believed to be 39, fell from the 33 floor skyscraper and was found on the ninth floor roof of the Canary Wharf building.

A source close to the investigation told MailOnline the man was a banker, but JP Morgan, the world's largest bank by assets, said his name and job would not be released until his family were informed.



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2547275/BREAKING-NEWS-Man-30s-dies-plunge-JP-Morgan-headquarters-Canary-Wharf.html



FORMER BANK EXECUTIVE FOUND HANGED AT KENSINGTON HOME

A former Deutsche Bank executive has been found dead at a house in London, it emerged today.


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Horror as banker, 39, plunges to his death from headquarters of JP Morgan in Canary Wharf (Original Post) jakeXT Jan 2014 OP
Sounds like stories from the crash of 1929 Larkspur Jan 2014 #1
These Both On Same Day??? billhicks76 Jan 2014 #82
DAMN YOU LIBS!!!! durablend Jan 2014 #2
HATING, HATING, HATING, HATING... yurbud Jan 2014 #6
Post removed Post removed Jan 2014 #3
I have one question atreides1 Jan 2014 #4
his age sounds a bit young to be a senior executive and those guys won't jump yurbud Jan 2014 #5
That's my thinking as well--too young for suicide. factsarenotfair Jan 2014 #20
usually reality is even more complicated than detective shows. yurbud Jan 2014 #27
We'll never know the causes of this death, IMHO. factsarenotfair Jan 2014 #34
I think it was caused by the sudden stop at the bottom of the building. olddad56 Jan 2014 #92
That'll do it ailsagirl Jan 2014 #94
Not really. One idea... Quantess Feb 2014 #106
That's in bad taste!! While we're down here..... Theyletmeeatcake2 Jan 2014 #87
Meanwhile durablend Jan 2014 #7
Exactly. n/t Delphinus Jan 2014 #45
the real work has to be done by groups like anonymous outing their hidden accounts, drug money yurbud Jan 2014 #8
National Suicide Prevention Lifeline mahatmakanejeeves Jan 2014 #9
Ward Churchill was beatified around here for cheerleading the deaths of bankers on 9/11, geek tragedy Jan 2014 #11
Thank you so much. mahatmakanejeeves Jan 2014 #12
As I said, there is a very ugly, hateful aspect to this site's membership geek tragedy Jan 2014 #14
Not enough information to know one way or the other yet.. snooper2 Jan 2014 #44
i wonder how many of the people Bodhi BloodWave Jan 2014 #85
Ward Churchill was a nutjob. Dash87 Jan 2014 #35
Wanna see ugly and hateful look at what bankers did to 10 million families in the past few years. jtuck004 Jan 2014 #59
what do you know about this man, other than the fact that geek tragedy Jan 2014 #60
Nothing. I know about the pain and heartache caused by fucking bankers to millions of people AND jtuck004 Jan 2014 #63
I do not share your eliminationist mindset nt geek tragedy Jan 2014 #64
Not surprised. But it makes it easier to tell whose side you are on, which is handy. n/t jtuck004 Jan 2014 #70
heh, anyone who doesn't wish deaths upon people you've never met geek tragedy Jan 2014 #74
Speaking of Nzxi's, they were adept at ignoring the death they enabled around them. jtuck004 Jan 2014 #76
and with the Godwinism, we're done. nt geek tragedy Jan 2014 #78
But the circumstances are not known here arikara Jan 2014 #71
Link? El_Johns Feb 2014 #115
I'm with you sharp_stick Jan 2014 #16
Thank you for posting this. Raine1967 Jan 2014 #21
good point: don't jump--become a whistleblower yurbud Jan 2014 #28
People need to re-read the OP hedgehog Jan 2014 #39
Seriously Distant Quasar Jan 2014 #56
I'm glad to see some empathy cinnabonbon Jan 2014 #47
Suicide? This sounds more like murder to me. Initech Jan 2014 #54
Kudos for posting this cosmicone Jan 2014 #72
Thank you for posting that. Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem. Those who do it okaawhatever Jan 2014 #77
Thank you for that. NaturalHigh Jan 2014 #86
One small step for mankind randr Jan 2014 #10
I find it appalling that people would make jokes about suicide. madaboutharry Jan 2014 #13
probably not suicide 2pooped2pop Jan 2014 #15
Disgusting, but at least we won't be hearing from you anymore in this thread. Thanks jury! Nye Bevan Jan 2014 #18
stay classy n/t sharp_stick Jan 2014 #19
I think you're entitled to be insensitive heaven05 Jan 2014 #31
Prison rape is another surefire kneeslapper here too. mahatmakanejeeves Jan 2014 #17
it's a result of our inability to bring these guys to justice and they certainly have no empathy for yurbud Jan 2014 #29
I agree. This is sad, no matter the circumstances. juajen Jan 2014 #80
Parents PasadenaTrudy Jan 2014 #22
Okey dokey jsr Jan 2014 #23
What do they know "over there" fredamae Jan 2014 #24
is this the start of something big heaven05 Jan 2014 #25
Yeah, I'm also wondering if another storm is on the horizon.... Blue_Tires Jan 2014 #49
That's the second executive from a major industry that's jumped or fallen to his death in the last Rozlee Jan 2014 #26
Shocking ...that they would rather die than be poor. L0oniX Jan 2014 #38
Actually, it's now the third; Berlin Expat Jan 2014 #40
I missed this before-thanks for posting and welcome to DU Berlin Expat. n/t bobthedrummer Feb 2014 #98
Given the number of major corporations and executives in those corporations world wide quakerboy Feb 2014 #103
Oh this is not a good sign lovuian Jan 2014 #30
Usually it's Brits who're the jumpers..... DeSwiss Jan 2014 #32
Tata Motors chief in Bangkok... Octafish Jan 2014 #62
Maybe they should have their meetings..... DeSwiss Jan 2014 #68
Two apparent banker suicides reported on the same day within hours? truthisfreedom Jan 2014 #33
Another victim of capitalism - TBF Jan 2014 #36
Thank you, thank you, thank you! appacom Jan 2014 #53
Exactly! People don't kill themselves under a communist system. hughee99 Jan 2014 #69
lol, hope this is sarcasm cause its got to be. loli phabay Feb 2014 #99
If any suicide can be automatically chalked up to capitalism, then it's only logical hughee99 Feb 2014 #100
gotcha loli phabay Feb 2014 #102
Apparently they don't offer TARP over there? L0oniX Jan 2014 #37
Only at the end jakeXT Jan 2014 #41
Wonder what he knew that someone would toss him. Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2014 #42
Its a start... joanbarnes Jan 2014 #43
I'm sure Gandhi would agree. Distant Quasar Jan 2014 #55
I seriously doubt Gandhi or Mandela would agree. cosmicone Jan 2014 #73
I thought it was obvious I was being ironic Distant Quasar Jan 2014 #75
Post removed Post removed Jan 2014 #46
Might have been tempted to talk, so the temptation was removed. nt valerief Jan 2014 #48
Sad and scary. tofuandbeer Jan 2014 #50
Might be time to consider getting out of the Stock Market for a little while. another_liberal Jan 2014 #51
Dead men tell no tales Dopers_Greed Jan 2014 #52
Sad. Hope it wasn't over something trivial like money. raouldukelives Jan 2014 #57
Too bad. bravenak Jan 2014 #58
.... PeoViejo Jan 2014 #61
He was dead before he hit the ground. sofa king Jan 2014 #65
I have to wait for details DerekG Jan 2014 #66
He was VP Technology Officer....that should send a chill... Evasporque Jan 2014 #67
Oh snap... penultimate Jan 2014 #96
Somebody having potential witnesses killed? notadmblnd Jan 2014 #79
"The most efficient accident, in simple assassinations, is a fall of 75 feet or more onto a hard bobthedrummer Jan 2014 #81
Thank you for posting this information. It needs to be seen, and remembered. n/t Judi Lynn Jan 2014 #84
Yes indeed arikara Jan 2014 #89
If you have stock in JP, christx30 Jan 2014 #83
Horror? Did he have a cuddly ferret in his pocket? Tom Ripley Jan 2014 #88
JP Morgan bankers hold minute's silence for technology chief Gabriel Magee who plunged to his death jakeXT Jan 2014 #90
A "free market economy" kick bobthedrummer Jan 2014 #91
"Pour encourager les autres..." nt GliderGuider Jan 2014 #93
bttt n/t bobthedrummer Jan 2014 #95
So he wasn't an actual banker, but a technology chief. I've seen this movie before. penultimate Jan 2014 #97
Here's banker Dueker's profile from Bloomberg. Also some banks not allowing cash withdrawals... Lodestar Feb 2014 #101
Welcome to DU Lodestar, here's an article from the February 1 edition of the Daily Mail bobthedrummer Feb 2014 #104
A Rash of Deaths and a Missing Reporter – With Ties to Wall Street Investigations mirrera Feb 2014 #105
Hmm davidthegnome Feb 2014 #107
Kick n/t bobthedrummer Feb 2014 #108
New York regulator demands bank documents as investigation widens (Dominic Rushe & Jill Treanor 2-5- bobthedrummer Feb 2014 #109
Today Morgan&Morgan initiated some kind of class action against JP Morgan's CEO -kick for review n/t bobthedrummer Feb 2014 #110
Another JPMorgan Banker Dies, 37 Year Old Executive Director Of Program Trading jakeXT Feb 2014 #111
Thanks for starting this thread-I'm with those of US that seriously question reasons given for the bobthedrummer Feb 2014 #112
Let's see if I've got this right-Richard Talley, founder & CEO of American Title was ruled "suicide" bobthedrummer Feb 2014 #113
This just in: A Hong Kong JPMorgan emloyee fell to his death today bobthedrummer Feb 2014 #114
 

Larkspur

(12,804 posts)
1. Sounds like stories from the crash of 1929
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 10:45 AM
Jan 2014

hope these are not omens of bad financial tides to come.

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
82. These Both On Same Day???
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 07:55 PM
Jan 2014

Bankers set to testify in 2009 were killed in hit-and-run car "accidents" and an executive set to testify on Enron trial was found drowned. Maybe this guy was pushed. A lot of money and people's freedom are at stake and "fixer" units are routinely hired by the most powerful organizations in the world.

Response to jakeXT (Original post)

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
5. his age sounds a bit young to be a senior executive and those guys won't jump
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 10:50 AM
Jan 2014

they need to be pushed.

I would not recommend that though because they could hurt or kill innocent bystanders below or damage someone's car.

factsarenotfair

(910 posts)
20. That's my thinking as well--too young for suicide.
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 11:12 AM
Jan 2014

Perhaps I watch too many detective shows on tv, though.

Quantess

(27,630 posts)
106. Not really. One idea...
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 12:36 PM
Feb 2014

he was a cocaine user (likely) who went through a dry spell, felt desperate from the withdrawals, and took his own life.

Theyletmeeatcake2

(348 posts)
87. That's in bad taste!! While we're down here.....
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 09:42 AM
Jan 2014

Last edited Wed Jan 29, 2014, 04:02 PM - Edit history (1)

He could've been saved if he had landed on his wallet!!

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
8. the real work has to be done by groups like anonymous outing their hidden accounts, drug money
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 10:54 AM
Jan 2014

laundering, and other activities that will make it harder for politicians to cover their asses.

Or they might have to find those accounts and just bust them open and drain them--give all their money to a thousand different charities, or some low dollar amount to every single person with a bank account, making it difficult to recover.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,439 posts)
9. National Suicide Prevention Lifeline
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 10:54 AM
Jan 2014

I'm sure I'll be forgiven for not finding the humor in this. From the looks of some posts, maybe not just yet.

National Suicide Prevention Lifeline

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geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
11. Ward Churchill was beatified around here for cheerleading the deaths of bankers on 9/11,
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 10:57 AM
Jan 2014

so I fear your reaction will be a minority one.

This thread's going to bring out the very, very ugly side of this site.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
14. As I said, there is a very ugly, hateful aspect to this site's membership
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 11:01 AM
Jan 2014

that goes back to its foundation. If one belongs to the wrong 'other' SOME people here see that person as less than human.

Note that they don't even to know his name, or what he did, or anything like that, just that he was likely a 'banker' therefore they're ready to dance on his grave and piss on the shoes of his grieving family.

I would recommend trashing the thread.

Edited to add: of course, a lot of people here are horrified by this kind of event, which was the death of a human being. Hopefully such folks are the majority around here.

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
44. Not enough information to know one way or the other yet..
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 12:29 PM
Jan 2014

Maybe he knew the cops were closing in on his pedophile actions against some four year olds-

Maybe he was an awesome father and husband and was doing great things with his life-



Bodhi BloodWave

(2,346 posts)
85. i wonder how many of the people
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 06:06 AM
Jan 2014

'celebrating' this death at the lack of a better word would be on the front lines with pitchforks and torches in attacking somebody making a contextually similar style of post as they have about lets say Pete seeger(not that easy since he died peacefully in a hospital bed, may he end up wherever he wish) or any other person of his stature.

Dash87

(3,220 posts)
35. Ward Churchill was a nutjob.
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 11:51 AM
Jan 2014

He also might have been a windup. He did what Ann Coulter does, but apparently wasn't as successful at it.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
59. Wanna see ugly and hateful look at what bankers did to 10 million families in the past few years.
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 01:42 PM
Jan 2014

This is nothin'.
 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
63. Nothing. I know about the pain and heartache caused by fucking bankers to millions of people AND
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 01:58 PM
Jan 2014

this fucking country. I also know that the bank he worked for was seriously complicit in that and is continuing to profit from it every day.

That bank, along with JP Morgan, and a whole host of mortgage brokers could disappear from the face of the earth tomorrow and we would be the better for it.Along with a whole bunch of people who claim to be morally superior and better than others who think otherwise. Along with the people who make a living by creating excuses for their thieving politicians to pay money to banks while kids go hungry, or cut the kids food stamps so the wealthy people and their banksters can keep their assets inflated.

Want to find someone that gives a shit, or is going to be the least disturbed about it, look elsewhere. The bankers are still getting over a trillion a year while lying, thieving, fat-ass politicians are about to blithely sign off on a ANOTHER food stamp cut.

We need more open windows.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
74. heh, anyone who doesn't wish deaths upon people you've never met
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 03:20 PM
Jan 2014

must be your enemy, huh?

This is how the Khmer Rouge thought.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
76. Speaking of Nzxi's, they were adept at ignoring the death they enabled around them.
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 04:17 PM
Jan 2014

So yeah, I hear ya'. Enjoy the view from that porch.

arikara

(5,562 posts)
71. But the circumstances are not known here
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 03:10 PM
Jan 2014

You don't know his story. Maybe he developed a conscience and was going to whistleblow something to bring down those banksters. You think they would hesitate to have somebody tossed off a balcony to protect their sorry asses?

sharp_stick

(14,400 posts)
16. I'm with you
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 11:08 AM
Jan 2014

I don't know if I find it sad or pathetic. The anonymity of the internet can really bring out the inner scumbag sometimes.

hedgehog

(36,286 posts)
39. People need to re-read the OP
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 12:19 PM
Jan 2014

"his name and job would not be released until his family were informed. "

We're talking about a real person, not a cartoon figure.

Initech

(100,070 posts)
54. Suicide? This sounds more like murder to me.
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 01:18 PM
Jan 2014

How do we know this guy wasn't forcibly pushed out? Maybe I've seen one too many crime and detective shows but I definitely wouldn't rule out the possibility.

 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
72. Kudos for posting this
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 03:11 PM
Jan 2014

The guy was probably a low-management, middle-class guy trying to make a living. Just because he worked for a bank doesn't deserve hate from anyone. Maybe he had personal problems or financial problems. Maybe he was told he was going to be laid off. His pain should not be our joy.

May his soul rest in peace.

okaawhatever

(9,461 posts)
77. Thank you for posting that. Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem. Those who do it
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 04:22 PM
Jan 2014

can't see a solution on the horizon. They need help with that. thanks for the info.

 

2pooped2pop

(5,420 posts)
15. probably not suicide
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 11:07 AM
Jan 2014

very hard to prove if someone was pushed. But as far as making jokes about bankers dying? I only wish it were every high level banker making the decisions to fuck up this world and their Koch overlords dying. And grief stricken enough to commit suicide? Fuckers have destroyed this fucking planet. I hope they all jump or push each other.


Quickly alert because we don't want to look mean here. lol

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
18. Disgusting, but at least we won't be hearing from you anymore in this thread. Thanks jury!
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 11:09 AM
Jan 2014

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heaven05

(18,124 posts)
31. I think you're entitled to be insensitive
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 11:30 AM
Jan 2014

to those Koch overlords and mega rich bankers who are extremely insensitive to the sufferings of people who lost jobs because of the economic climate that they helped create and homes and are living hand to mouth. I'm one of them.

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
29. it's a result of our inability to bring these guys to justice and they certainly have no empathy for
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 11:29 AM
Jan 2014

the rest of us.

juajen

(8,515 posts)
80. I agree. This is sad, no matter the circumstances.
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 06:35 PM
Jan 2014

Somewhere, a Mother has lost a son, or a child his or her father, and a wife, her husband.

Democrats are busy all the time fighting anonyous or known boogiemen, but we cannot loose our own humanity, no matter how frustrated we become.

Remember, please, we fight for justice, compassion and humanity, not for the death of our adversaries, but for their defeat politically. War is Hell!

PasadenaTrudy

(3,998 posts)
22. Parents
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 11:15 AM
Jan 2014

and family of this man are in horrible shock right now. That's who my thoughts are with. Wishing them comfort....

fredamae

(4,458 posts)
24. What do they know "over there"
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 11:18 AM
Jan 2014

that caused them to believe suicide is the solution in the first place?

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
25. is this the start of something big
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 11:23 AM
Jan 2014

because some hidden truths we know nothing about are ready to be revealed? Only the shadow knows

Rozlee

(2,529 posts)
26. That's the second executive from a major industry that's jumped or fallen to his death in the last
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 11:24 AM
Jan 2014

week. Karl Slym, the managing director at Tata Motors in India plunged to his death from the 22nd floor of his hotel. Maybe they owned the same lousy stock or they have the same stalker. Or just coincidence.

quakerboy

(13,920 posts)
103. Given the number of major corporations and executives in those corporations world wide
Mon Feb 3, 2014, 12:10 AM
Feb 2014

I would be shocked if this sort of thing doesn't happen daily.

lovuian

(19,362 posts)
30. Oh this is not a good sign
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 11:29 AM
Jan 2014

Banks ....have been money laundering.....derivatives fraud ....currency manipulation .....etc....etc....

meanwhile Governments insure them .....it has to be REGULATED more and more

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
68. Maybe they should have their meetings.....
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 02:35 PM
Jan 2014

...in ground floor offices for the duration.

- It's positively raining businessmen......

truthisfreedom

(23,146 posts)
33. Two apparent banker suicides reported on the same day within hours?
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 11:36 AM
Jan 2014

Hmm. I'm glad I'm out of the stock market. Condolences to their families and I hope we hear clear stories to help us understand the whys.

TBF

(32,059 posts)
36. Another victim of capitalism -
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 11:52 AM
Jan 2014

whether it is the banker jumping or someone who has been out in the cold after the foreclosure of their home - these are our brothers/sisters and they individually are not the problem.

The problem is an economic system that exploits the poor and makes just a few very, very wealthy. It.has.to.go.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
100. If any suicide can be automatically chalked up to capitalism, then it's only logical
Sun Feb 2, 2014, 06:43 PM
Feb 2014

that suicide doesn't occur in a communist system, right?

jakeXT

(10,575 posts)
41. Only at the end
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 12:25 PM
Jan 2014
Amie Hughes-Gage said: 'Just watched the police finally remove that poor bankers body 4 and half hours later with only a white sheet over him.'
 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
73. I seriously doubt Gandhi or Mandela would agree.
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 03:17 PM
Jan 2014

They fought against oppressive systems but not with people who enforced them. When Gandhi died, most of his captors and detractors cried. Mandela invited his prison guards to his inauguration.

One does not get respect with hate.

Response to jakeXT (Original post)

 

another_liberal

(8,821 posts)
51. Might be time to consider getting out of the Stock Market for a little while.
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 01:11 PM
Jan 2014

Could be the only warning investors get before the fatcats unload their stock and prices tank.

This time, need I add, . . . NO BAILOUT FOR THE MEGA-BANKERS!

raouldukelives

(5,178 posts)
57. Sad. Hope it wasn't over something trivial like money.
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 01:34 PM
Jan 2014

Perhaps he had an epiphany. The faces of suffering and pain flashing before him, the cries of wildlife left without a home haunting him as he realized the fruits of his labor.
Much the same as the vets of our wars of choice must feel. Realizing it was done of free will and in the end, only for the money.
For without the money, is it a service one would bestow of themselves with free will? If it is, then perhaps it is worth the effort. If not, the knowledge one has to live with can be overwhelming.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
58. Too bad.
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 01:35 PM
Jan 2014

He must have been carrying some heavy secrets. Wish he'd have talked instead, I would have liked to hear what he had to say.

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
65. He was dead before he hit the ground.
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 02:11 PM
Jan 2014

... Because he only made it down to the ninth floor roof.

On a more serious note, there are really only three kinds of people who die by defenestration: those who are suicidal and really mean it, those who are pushed, and Darwin Award winner Garry Hoy. I'm pointing this out because the guy was either severely depressed and saw no way out, or he knew something and someone else saw no way out.

But whatever that something is, if it is, it doesn't have to be criminal or even related to his workplace.

DerekG

(2,935 posts)
66. I have to wait for details
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 02:13 PM
Jan 2014

I find nothing wrong with dancing on the graves of rotters, but we just don't what this guy's story was yet.

Evasporque

(2,133 posts)
67. He was VP Technology Officer....that should send a chill...
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 02:22 PM
Jan 2014

through security orgs...

edited...to take out CIO

 

bobthedrummer

(26,083 posts)
81. "The most efficient accident, in simple assassinations, is a fall of 75 feet or more onto a hard
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 06:48 PM
Jan 2014

surface. Elevator shafts, stairwells, unscreened windows and bridges will serve (In some cases), it will usually be necessary to stun or drug the subject before dropping him." (1953 CIA manual).

A Study of Assassination (excerpt from CIA/US Special Forces training manuals via The National Security Archive)
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB4/ciaguat2.html

Lots of falls of more than 75 feet are "simple assassinations", and can be done by anyone with the proper influence(s). Fwiw, here are a few examples of highly suspicious accidents imho.
Nicole John (BBC)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-11118457

Karl Slym (BBC)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-25909034

Scott Lewis (Eamonn Duff & Peta Doherty Sydney Morning Herald)
http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/famous-hypnotist-scott-lewis-dead-after-sydney-apartment-fall-20140111-30noo.html

It is extremely interesting (to some of US) that just prior to his fatal fall in late November 1953 Frank Olson was sent to NYC to visit the magician/hypnotist/MK ULTRA consultant CIA approved therapist John Mulholland. Mr. Olson had been secretly dosed with LSD and haunted by some of the terminal interrogations conducted by his employers in Europe.

CIA sued over death of former agent unwittingly dosed with LSD (Brett Wilkins 11-29-12 Digital Journal)
http://digitaljournal.com/article/337917

There are methods that are ruled "suicides"-and the cruelty of tactics and techniques used to induce someone to kill their self are just as effective as simple accident assassination.

All these evil subjects have been taught worldwide by various organizations including our own US wet workers, and some of that wet work was conducted here in the land of the free as well as in other nations. I' m thankful that we are in a post-WikiLeaks, Chelsea Manning, Ed Snowden culture where the obsfucation of truth is nearing an end.
Prisoner Abuse: Patterns From The Past (National Security Archive Electronic Briefing Book 122)
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB122

arikara

(5,562 posts)
89. Yes indeed
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 02:25 PM
Jan 2014

being the suspicious type I am, when something like this happens suiciding is always my first thought. Thanks for posting.

christx30

(6,241 posts)
83. If you have stock in JP,
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 11:27 PM
Jan 2014

now is the time to sell. They wouldn't have done that if everything was going well.

jakeXT

(10,575 posts)
90. JP Morgan bankers hold minute's silence for technology chief Gabriel Magee who plunged to his death
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 02:45 PM
Jan 2014

Gabriel Magee, an American senior manager, 39, fell from the 33-storey skyscraper at around 8am and was found on the ninth floor roof, which surrounds the Canary Wharf skyscraper.

...

He was a vice president in the corporate and investment bank technology department having joined in 2004, moving to Britain from the United States in 2007.

...

Mr Magee, who lived in North London, was an expert in highly specialist software which reaps huge profits for the US company by predicting market patterns.

It is understood that Mr Magee’s girlfriend had reported him missing the previous evening.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2547275/BREAKING-NEWS-Man-30s-dies-plunge-JP-Morgan-headquarters-Canary-Wharf.html

 

bobthedrummer

(26,083 posts)
91. A "free market economy" kick
Thu Jan 30, 2014, 02:37 PM
Jan 2014

Democracy Now! interview from 11-9-04
Confessions of an Economic Hit Man: How the U.S. Uses Globalization to Cheat Poor Countries Out of Trillions
http://www.democracynow.org/2004/11/9/confessions_of_an_economic_hit_man

Lodestar

(2,388 posts)
101. Here's banker Dueker's profile from Bloomberg. Also some banks not allowing cash withdrawals...
Sun Feb 2, 2014, 07:25 PM
Feb 2014

Last edited Sun Feb 2, 2014, 08:16 PM - Edit history (2)

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-01-30/russell-investments-chief-economist-dueker-found-dead.html


http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-01-30/russell-investments-chief-economist-dueker-found-dead.html

Mike Dueker, the chief economist at Russell Investments, was found dead at the side of a highway that leads to the Tacoma Narrows Bridge in Washington state, according to the Pierce County Sheriff’s Department. He was 50.

He may have jumped over a 4-foot (1.2-meter) fence before falling down a 40- to 50-foot embankment, Pierce County Detective Ed Troyer said yesterday. He said the death appeared to be a suicide.

Dueker was reported missing on Jan. 29, and a group of friends had been searching for him along with law enforcement. Troyer said Dueker was having problems at work, without elaborating.

There have also been stories about people being unable to withdraw cash from certain banks though I don't know if there is any
relationship to this string of bankers deaths. But you have to wonder if this is all indicative of a looming financial crisis...

HSBC imposes restrictions on large cash withdrawals
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-25861717
 

bobthedrummer

(26,083 posts)
104. Welcome to DU Lodestar, here's an article from the February 1 edition of the Daily Mail
Mon Feb 3, 2014, 07:34 PM
Feb 2014

Another American banker commits suicide as New Mexico family demand answers over workload of banking executive who jumped to his death in London
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2550025/Chief-economists-apparent-suicide-latest-series-bizarre-deaths-financial-world-week.html

I question "apparent suicide" rulings when there are clusters of them in certain professions. Some of them might be simple accident assassination or other forms of murder, even the use of electronic harassment and other tactics to bring about self-destruction.

Dow closed way down again...

davidthegnome

(2,983 posts)
107. Hmm
Tue Feb 4, 2014, 12:59 PM
Feb 2014

I'm not going to cheer this guy's death - but I can understand why others do. I guess what bothers me is the same thing that is bothering most of us here - these three apparent suicides within a week's time, by well known banking officials. Is the market headed for another crash? If it is, I mean, if these financial institutions have managed to bring about some sort of enormous financial disaster all over again... it's going to crush us little people. If the stock market crashes big, jobs will be lost, businesses will be closed, politicians will start screaming even more loudly for austerity.

In the previous crisis, I remember some doomsday talk about the world's economy simply collapsing, about dollars having no more real value. Basically, something that would hit just as hard as the great depression, or possibly be even worse.

Maybe I'm too paranoid - but, to quote a favorite author (Laurel Hamilton) "Paranoia is just another word for longevity"

Things are hard enough right now, but if the shit hits the fan all over again... it's more likely going to be poor folks who are committing suicide. Consider the implications of another financial crisis, when we are still suffering heavily from the last one.

 

bobthedrummer

(26,083 posts)
110. Today Morgan&Morgan initiated some kind of class action against JP Morgan's CEO -kick for review n/t
Wed Feb 12, 2014, 05:08 PM
Feb 2014

jakeXT

(10,575 posts)
111. Another JPMorgan Banker Dies, 37 Year Old Executive Director Of Program Trading
Wed Feb 12, 2014, 05:17 PM
Feb 2014

Ryan Henry Crane, 37, Of Stamford, Worked For J.P. Morgan

STAMFORD, Conn. - Ryan Henry Crane of Stamford died Monday, Feb. 3. He was 37.

Crane was born Jan. 8, 1977, and grew up in Long Valley, N.J. He graduated from The Delbarton School in Morristown in 1995. He graduated from Harvard University in 1999, after which he spent the next 14 years at J.P. Morgan in New York. He was an executive director in the Global Equities Group.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-02-12/another-jpmorgan-banker-dies-37-year-old-executive-director-program-trading

 

bobthedrummer

(26,083 posts)
112. Thanks for starting this thread-I'm with those of US that seriously question reasons given for the
Wed Feb 12, 2014, 05:36 PM
Feb 2014

cause of death by tptb when it comes to certain groups of professionals.

 

bobthedrummer

(26,083 posts)
113. Let's see if I've got this right-Richard Talley, founder & CEO of American Title was ruled "suicide"
Sun Feb 16, 2014, 04:46 PM
Feb 2014

with 7-8 nail gun wounds to his back, torso and head reported on 2-7.
Now there's a 2-12-14 report about another JP Morgan Global Trading exec with a degree from Harvard-a young man, Ryan Henry Crane, who has died. Tptb ruled it "suicide"
http://mediachecker.wordpress.com/2014/02/12/6th-banker-commits-suicide

I'm still trying to process the death of Federal Reserve economist Mike Dueker that tptb ruled "suicide".

Anyone have any ideas about all these alleged "suicides"? It must be difficult to shoot nails into your back, and the back of your head imo or jump from a height that CIA/Special Ops manuals state is an effective "simple accident" assassination technique.

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