Horror as banker, 39, plunges to his death from headquarters of JP Morgan in Canary Wharf
Source: Daily Mail
A banker has died after jumping 500ft from the top of JP Morgan's European headquarters in London this morning.
The man, who is believed to be 39, fell from the 33 floor skyscraper and was found on the ninth floor roof of the Canary Wharf building.
A source close to the investigation told MailOnline the man was a banker, but JP Morgan, the world's largest bank by assets, said his name and job would not be released until his family were informed.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2547275/BREAKING-NEWS-Man-30s-dies-plunge-JP-Morgan-headquarters-Canary-Wharf.html
FORMER BANK EXECUTIVE FOUND HANGED AT KENSINGTON HOME
A former Deutsche Bank executive has been found dead at a house in London, it emerged today.
Larkspur
(12,804 posts)hope these are not omens of bad financial tides to come.
billhicks76
(5,082 posts)Bankers set to testify in 2009 were killed in hit-and-run car "accidents" and an executive set to testify on Enron trial was found drowned. Maybe this guy was pushed. A lot of money and people's freedom are at stake and "fixer" units are routinely hired by the most powerful organizations in the world.
durablend
(7,460 posts)STOP HATING ON THE RICH OR MORE OF THIS WILL HAPPEN!!!!!
yurbud
(39,405 posts)Is it working?
Response to jakeXT (Original post)
Post removed
atreides1
(16,079 posts)What was the bounce factor?
yurbud
(39,405 posts)they need to be pushed.
I would not recommend that though because they could hurt or kill innocent bystanders below or damage someone's car.
factsarenotfair
(910 posts)Perhaps I watch too many detective shows on tv, though.
yurbud
(39,405 posts)factsarenotfair
(910 posts)Whatever they are.
olddad56
(5,732 posts)ailsagirl
(22,896 posts)(not to be flippant)
Suicide or not, what a terrible way to go
Quantess
(27,630 posts)he was a cocaine user (likely) who went through a dry spell, felt desperate from the withdrawals, and took his own life.
Theyletmeeatcake2
(348 posts)Last edited Wed Jan 29, 2014, 04:02 PM - Edit history (1)
He could've been saved if he had landed on his wallet!!
durablend
(7,460 posts)People in this country starve or freeze to death daily but nobody ever hears about them....
Delphinus
(11,830 posts)yurbud
(39,405 posts)laundering, and other activities that will make it harder for politicians to cover their asses.
Or they might have to find those accounts and just bust them open and drain them--give all their money to a thousand different charities, or some low dollar amount to every single person with a bank account, making it difficult to recover.
mahatmakanejeeves
(57,439 posts)I'm sure I'll be forgiven for not finding the humor in this. From the looks of some posts, maybe not just yet.
National Suicide Prevention Lifeline
No matter what problems you are dealing with, we want to help you find a reason to keep living. By calling 1-800-273-TALK (8255) youll be connected to a skilled, trained counselor at a crisis center in your area, anytime 24/7.
Ayuda en Español
¿Qué pasa cuando llamo?
Cuando usted llama al número 1-888-628-9454, su llamada se dirige al centro de ayuda de nuestra red disponible más cercano. Tenemos actualmente 150 centros en la red y usted hablará probablemente con uno situado en su zona. Cada centro funciona en forma independiente y tiene su propio personal calificado.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)so I fear your reaction will be a minority one.
This thread's going to bring out the very, very ugly side of this site.
mahatmakanejeeves
(57,439 posts)I'm appalled at the gist of some of the early posts.
This is funny? Really?
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)that goes back to its foundation. If one belongs to the wrong 'other' SOME people here see that person as less than human.
Note that they don't even to know his name, or what he did, or anything like that, just that he was likely a 'banker' therefore they're ready to dance on his grave and piss on the shoes of his grieving family.
I would recommend trashing the thread.
Edited to add: of course, a lot of people here are horrified by this kind of event, which was the death of a human being. Hopefully such folks are the majority around here.
snooper2
(30,151 posts)Maybe he knew the cops were closing in on his pedophile actions against some four year olds-
Maybe he was an awesome father and husband and was doing great things with his life-
Bodhi BloodWave
(2,346 posts)'celebrating' this death at the lack of a better word would be on the front lines with pitchforks and torches in attacking somebody making a contextually similar style of post as they have about lets say Pete seeger(not that easy since he died peacefully in a hospital bed, may he end up wherever he wish) or any other person of his stature.
Dash87
(3,220 posts)He also might have been a windup. He did what Ann Coulter does, but apparently wasn't as successful at it.
jtuck004
(15,882 posts)This is nothin'.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)he apparently killed himself?
jtuck004
(15,882 posts)this fucking country. I also know that the bank he worked for was seriously complicit in that and is continuing to profit from it every day.
That bank, along with JP Morgan, and a whole host of mortgage brokers could disappear from the face of the earth tomorrow and we would be the better for it.Along with a whole bunch of people who claim to be morally superior and better than others who think otherwise. Along with the people who make a living by creating excuses for their thieving politicians to pay money to banks while kids go hungry, or cut the kids food stamps so the wealthy people and their banksters can keep their assets inflated.
Want to find someone that gives a shit, or is going to be the least disturbed about it, look elsewhere. The bankers are still getting over a trillion a year while lying, thieving, fat-ass politicians are about to blithely sign off on a ANOTHER food stamp cut.
We need more open windows.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)jtuck004
(15,882 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)must be your enemy, huh?
This is how the Khmer Rouge thought.
jtuck004
(15,882 posts)So yeah, I hear ya'. Enjoy the view from that porch.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)arikara
(5,562 posts)You don't know his story. Maybe he developed a conscience and was going to whistleblow something to bring down those banksters. You think they would hesitate to have somebody tossed off a balcony to protect their sorry asses?
El_Johns
(1,805 posts)sharp_stick
(14,400 posts)I don't know if I find it sad or pathetic. The anonymity of the internet can really bring out the inner scumbag sometimes.
Raine1967
(11,589 posts)I wish death upon no one.
yurbud
(39,405 posts)hedgehog
(36,286 posts)"his name and job would not be released until his family were informed. "
We're talking about a real person, not a cartoon figure.
Distant Quasar
(142 posts)It makes me feel dirty just to read some of these posts.
cinnabonbon
(860 posts)Suicide isn't something people should joke about. Thanks for this.
Initech
(100,070 posts)How do we know this guy wasn't forcibly pushed out? Maybe I've seen one too many crime and detective shows but I definitely wouldn't rule out the possibility.
cosmicone
(11,014 posts)The guy was probably a low-management, middle-class guy trying to make a living. Just because he worked for a bank doesn't deserve hate from anyone. Maybe he had personal problems or financial problems. Maybe he was told he was going to be laid off. His pain should not be our joy.
May his soul rest in peace.
okaawhatever
(9,461 posts)can't see a solution on the horizon. They need help with that. thanks for the info.
NaturalHigh
(12,778 posts)This man's death is a tragedy and is undoubtedly devastating for his family.
randr
(12,412 posts)madaboutharry
(40,210 posts)2pooped2pop
(5,420 posts)very hard to prove if someone was pushed. But as far as making jokes about bankers dying? I only wish it were every high level banker making the decisions to fuck up this world and their Koch overlords dying. And grief stricken enough to commit suicide? Fuckers have destroyed this fucking planet. I hope they all jump or push each other.
Quickly alert because we don't want to look mean here. lol
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)On Tue Jan 28, 2014, 06:53 AM an alert was sent on the following post:
horror?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=711232
REASON FOR ALERT
This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.
ALERTER'S COMMENTS
eliminationist rhetoric. I expect a 0-6 vote to keep on this post, but in the vain hope that the ghoulish bloodlust is considered inappropriate.
JURY RESULTS
You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Tue Jan 28, 2014, 07:07 AM, and the Jury voted 6-0 to HIDE IT.
Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: DU - liberals, Dems - should be better than this..hide this disgraceful post
Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: voting to hide. don't believe it's good for DU to sponsor posts like this, much as I agree with the sentiment.
Juror #4 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Control yourself!
Juror #6 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.
sharp_stick
(14,400 posts)heaven05
(18,124 posts)to those Koch overlords and mega rich bankers who are extremely insensitive to the sufferings of people who lost jobs because of the economic climate that they helped create and homes and are living hand to mouth. I'm one of them.
mahatmakanejeeves
(57,439 posts)It's a guaranteed DU laff riot.
yurbud
(39,405 posts)the rest of us.
juajen
(8,515 posts)Somewhere, a Mother has lost a son, or a child his or her father, and a wife, her husband.
Democrats are busy all the time fighting anonyous or known boogiemen, but we cannot loose our own humanity, no matter how frustrated we become.
Remember, please, we fight for justice, compassion and humanity, not for the death of our adversaries, but for their defeat politically. War is Hell!
PasadenaTrudy
(3,998 posts)and family of this man are in horrible shock right now. That's who my thoughts are with. Wishing them comfort....
jsr
(7,712 posts)fredamae
(4,458 posts)that caused them to believe suicide is the solution in the first place?
heaven05
(18,124 posts)because some hidden truths we know nothing about are ready to be revealed? Only the shadow knows
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)Rozlee
(2,529 posts)week. Karl Slym, the managing director at Tata Motors in India plunged to his death from the 22nd floor of his hotel. Maybe they owned the same lousy stock or they have the same stalker. Or just coincidence.
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)Berlin Expat
(950 posts)a retired DeutscheBank executive hanged himself at his home in London on Sunday as well.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2547343/Former-executive-Deutsche-Bank-hanged-Kensington-home.html
bobthedrummer
(26,083 posts)quakerboy
(13,920 posts)I would be shocked if this sort of thing doesn't happen daily.
lovuian
(19,362 posts)Banks ....have been money laundering.....derivatives fraud ....currency manipulation .....etc....etc....
meanwhile Governments insure them .....it has to be REGULATED more and more
DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)Top British banker dies in fall at Collyer Quay (2011)
British banker falls off rooftop in hurricane (2012)
- Word to the wise: I wouldn't walk around skyscrapers over the next few months.....
K&R
Octafish
(55,745 posts)...an ex-GM guy...
Suicide suspected in Tata Motors executive's death in Bangkok
Police find note from his wife, no sign of struggle...
DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)...in ground floor offices for the duration.
- It's positively raining businessmen......
truthisfreedom
(23,146 posts)Hmm. I'm glad I'm out of the stock market. Condolences to their families and I hope we hear clear stories to help us understand the whys.
TBF
(32,059 posts)whether it is the banker jumping or someone who has been out in the cold after the foreclosure of their home - these are our brothers/sisters and they individually are not the problem.
The problem is an economic system that exploits the poor and makes just a few very, very wealthy. It.has.to.go.
appacom
(296 posts)hughee99
(16,113 posts)loli phabay
(5,580 posts)hughee99
(16,113 posts)that suicide doesn't occur in a communist system, right?
loli phabay
(5,580 posts)L0oniX
(31,493 posts)jakeXT
(10,575 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)joanbarnes
(1,722 posts)Distant Quasar
(142 posts)cosmicone
(11,014 posts)They fought against oppressive systems but not with people who enforced them. When Gandhi died, most of his captors and detractors cried. Mandela invited his prison guards to his inauguration.
One does not get respect with hate.
Distant Quasar
(142 posts)But I guess not. My bad.
Response to jakeXT (Original post)
Post removed
valerief
(53,235 posts)tofuandbeer
(1,314 posts)another_liberal
(8,821 posts)Could be the only warning investors get before the fatcats unload their stock and prices tank.
This time, need I add, . . . NO BAILOUT FOR THE MEGA-BANKERS!
Dopers_Greed
(2,640 posts)Avoid rooftops if you have the inside scoop on criminal enterprises
raouldukelives
(5,178 posts)Perhaps he had an epiphany. The faces of suffering and pain flashing before him, the cries of wildlife left without a home haunting him as he realized the fruits of his labor.
Much the same as the vets of our wars of choice must feel. Realizing it was done of free will and in the end, only for the money.
For without the money, is it a service one would bestow of themselves with free will? If it is, then perhaps it is worth the effort. If not, the knowledge one has to live with can be overwhelming.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)He must have been carrying some heavy secrets. Wish he'd have talked instead, I would have liked to hear what he had to say.
sofa king
(10,857 posts)... Because he only made it down to the ninth floor roof.
On a more serious note, there are really only three kinds of people who die by defenestration: those who are suicidal and really mean it, those who are pushed, and Darwin Award winner Garry Hoy. I'm pointing this out because the guy was either severely depressed and saw no way out, or he knew something and someone else saw no way out.
But whatever that something is, if it is, it doesn't have to be criminal or even related to his workplace.
DerekG
(2,935 posts)I find nothing wrong with dancing on the graves of rotters, but we just don't what this guy's story was yet.
Evasporque
(2,133 posts)through security orgs...
edited...to take out CIO
penultimate
(1,110 posts)notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)bobthedrummer
(26,083 posts)surface. Elevator shafts, stairwells, unscreened windows and bridges will serve (In some cases), it will usually be necessary to stun or drug the subject before dropping him." (1953 CIA manual).
A Study of Assassination (excerpt from CIA/US Special Forces training manuals via The National Security Archive)
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB4/ciaguat2.html
Lots of falls of more than 75 feet are "simple assassinations", and can be done by anyone with the proper influence(s). Fwiw, here are a few examples of highly suspicious accidents imho.
Nicole John (BBC)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-11118457
Karl Slym (BBC)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-25909034
Scott Lewis (Eamonn Duff & Peta Doherty Sydney Morning Herald)
http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/famous-hypnotist-scott-lewis-dead-after-sydney-apartment-fall-20140111-30noo.html
It is extremely interesting (to some of US) that just prior to his fatal fall in late November 1953 Frank Olson was sent to NYC to visit the magician/hypnotist/MK ULTRA consultant CIA approved therapist John Mulholland. Mr. Olson had been secretly dosed with LSD and haunted by some of the terminal interrogations conducted by his employers in Europe.
CIA sued over death of former agent unwittingly dosed with LSD (Brett Wilkins 11-29-12 Digital Journal)
http://digitaljournal.com/article/337917
There are methods that are ruled "suicides"-and the cruelty of tactics and techniques used to induce someone to kill their self are just as effective as simple accident assassination.
All these evil subjects have been taught worldwide by various organizations including our own US wet workers, and some of that wet work was conducted here in the land of the free as well as in other nations. I' m thankful that we are in a post-WikiLeaks, Chelsea Manning, Ed Snowden culture where the obsfucation of truth is nearing an end.
Prisoner Abuse: Patterns From The Past (National Security Archive Electronic Briefing Book 122)
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB122
Judi Lynn
(160,527 posts)arikara
(5,562 posts)being the suspicious type I am, when something like this happens suiciding is always my first thought. Thanks for posting.
christx30
(6,241 posts)now is the time to sell. They wouldn't have done that if everything was going well.
Tom Ripley
(4,945 posts)jakeXT
(10,575 posts)Gabriel Magee, an American senior manager, 39, fell from the 33-storey skyscraper at around 8am and was found on the ninth floor roof, which surrounds the Canary Wharf skyscraper.
...
He was a vice president in the corporate and investment bank technology department having joined in 2004, moving to Britain from the United States in 2007.
...
Mr Magee, who lived in North London, was an expert in highly specialist software which reaps huge profits for the US company by predicting market patterns.
It is understood that Mr Magees girlfriend had reported him missing the previous evening.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2547275/BREAKING-NEWS-Man-30s-dies-plunge-JP-Morgan-headquarters-Canary-Wharf.html
bobthedrummer
(26,083 posts)Democracy Now! interview from 11-9-04
Confessions of an Economic Hit Man: How the U.S. Uses Globalization to Cheat Poor Countries Out of Trillions
http://www.democracynow.org/2004/11/9/confessions_of_an_economic_hit_man
GliderGuider
(21,088 posts)bobthedrummer
(26,083 posts)penultimate
(1,110 posts)Lodestar
(2,388 posts)Last edited Sun Feb 2, 2014, 08:16 PM - Edit history (2)
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-01-30/russell-investments-chief-economist-dueker-found-dead.htmlhttp://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-01-30/russell-investments-chief-economist-dueker-found-dead.html
Mike Dueker, the chief economist at Russell Investments, was found dead at the side of a highway that leads to the Tacoma Narrows Bridge in Washington state, according to the Pierce County Sheriffs Department. He was 50.
He may have jumped over a 4-foot (1.2-meter) fence before falling down a 40- to 50-foot embankment, Pierce County Detective Ed Troyer said yesterday. He said the death appeared to be a suicide.
Dueker was reported missing on Jan. 29, and a group of friends had been searching for him along with law enforcement. Troyer said Dueker was having problems at work, without elaborating.
There have also been stories about people being unable to withdraw cash from certain banks though I don't know if there is any
relationship to this string of bankers deaths. But you have to wonder if this is all indicative of a looming financial crisis...
HSBC imposes restrictions on large cash withdrawals
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-25861717
bobthedrummer
(26,083 posts)Another American banker commits suicide as New Mexico family demand answers over workload of banking executive who jumped to his death in London
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2550025/Chief-economists-apparent-suicide-latest-series-bizarre-deaths-financial-world-week.html
I question "apparent suicide" rulings when there are clusters of them in certain professions. Some of them might be simple accident assassination or other forms of murder, even the use of electronic harassment and other tactics to bring about self-destruction.
Dow closed way down again...
mirrera
(1,764 posts)I just posted this in another thread. The story deepens:
http://wallstreetonparade.com/2014/02/a-rash-of-deaths-and-a-missing-reporter-%E2%80%93-with-ties-to-wall-street-investigations/
davidthegnome
(2,983 posts)I'm not going to cheer this guy's death - but I can understand why others do. I guess what bothers me is the same thing that is bothering most of us here - these three apparent suicides within a week's time, by well known banking officials. Is the market headed for another crash? If it is, I mean, if these financial institutions have managed to bring about some sort of enormous financial disaster all over again... it's going to crush us little people. If the stock market crashes big, jobs will be lost, businesses will be closed, politicians will start screaming even more loudly for austerity.
In the previous crisis, I remember some doomsday talk about the world's economy simply collapsing, about dollars having no more real value. Basically, something that would hit just as hard as the great depression, or possibly be even worse.
Maybe I'm too paranoid - but, to quote a favorite author (Laurel Hamilton) "Paranoia is just another word for longevity"
Things are hard enough right now, but if the shit hits the fan all over again... it's more likely going to be poor folks who are committing suicide. Consider the implications of another financial crisis, when we are still suffering heavily from the last one.
bobthedrummer
(26,083 posts)bobthedrummer
(26,083 posts)14 The Guardian)
http://www.theguardian.com/business/2014/feb/05/new-york-regulator-banks-trading-investigation
Hmmm....
bobthedrummer
(26,083 posts)jakeXT
(10,575 posts)Ryan Henry Crane, 37, Of Stamford, Worked For J.P. Morgan
STAMFORD, Conn. - Ryan Henry Crane of Stamford died Monday, Feb. 3. He was 37.
Crane was born Jan. 8, 1977, and grew up in Long Valley, N.J. He graduated from The Delbarton School in Morristown in 1995. He graduated from Harvard University in 1999, after which he spent the next 14 years at J.P. Morgan in New York. He was an executive director in the Global Equities Group.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-02-12/another-jpmorgan-banker-dies-37-year-old-executive-director-program-trading
bobthedrummer
(26,083 posts)cause of death by tptb when it comes to certain groups of professionals.
bobthedrummer
(26,083 posts)with 7-8 nail gun wounds to his back, torso and head reported on 2-7.
Now there's a 2-12-14 report about another JP Morgan Global Trading exec with a degree from Harvard-a young man, Ryan Henry Crane, who has died. Tptb ruled it "suicide"
http://mediachecker.wordpress.com/2014/02/12/6th-banker-commits-suicide
I'm still trying to process the death of Federal Reserve economist Mike Dueker that tptb ruled "suicide".
Anyone have any ideas about all these alleged "suicides"? It must be difficult to shoot nails into your back, and the back of your head imo or jump from a height that CIA/Special Ops manuals state is an effective "simple accident" assassination technique.
bobthedrummer
(26,083 posts)JP Morgan Employee Falls to Death From Building Roof in Hong Kong (Business Week)
http://www.businessweek.com/news/2014-02-18/man-falls-to-death-from-roof-of-jpmorgan-building-in-hong-kong