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theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
Fri Jan 31, 2014, 07:00 PM Jan 2014

West Virginia spill criticism grows amid new fear over tainted water

Source: The Los Angeles Times

West Virginia spill criticism grows amid new fear over tainted water
By David Zucchino
January 31, 2014, 2:47 p.m.

The top public health official in Charleston, W. Va., has added to widespread criticism of the decision to declare drinking water safe despite a critical lack of scientific data about the coal-washing chemical that spilled into the Elk River on Jan. 9.

Dr. Rahul Gupta, director of the Kanawha-Charleston Health Department, the largest in West Virginia, said in an interview Friday that the water can't be considered completely safe because scientists don't know the possible health effects of exposure to the chemical. He said officials have confused the 300,000 residents whose water was tainted by first declaring it safe, then resuming distribution of bottled water Thursday.

"If you weren't confused before, welcome to our world of confusion here," Gupta said in a telephone interview. "People are naturally confused when they are told on the one hand that the water is safe, and on the other hand they [officials] are now redistributing water."

Further complicating matters, Gupta said, three local schools on Friday reported low but elevated levels of 4-methylcyclohexanemethanol, or MCHM. Kanawha County school officials said the schools' water systems would be flushed again over the weekend... MORE




Read more: http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-west-virginia-spill-criticism-grows-20140131,0,5603683.story#ixzz2s1HbL78K



I just knew this wasn't over.
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West Virginia spill criticism grows amid new fear over tainted water (Original Post) theHandpuppet Jan 2014 OP
We Really Don't Know the Possible Health Effects of Your bkanderson76 Jan 2014 #1
On local news, it hasn't been over Marthe48 Jan 2014 #2
Good advice theHandpuppet Feb 2014 #5
DON'T RISK IT! blkmusclmachine Jan 2014 #3
This sums it up simply. WHEN CRABS ROAR Jan 2014 #4
It gets worse: DeSwiss Feb 2014 #6
Wow. So no need to worry... theHandpuppet Feb 2014 #7
There is no way Dr. Letitia Tierney nor any so-called experts could know...... DeSwiss Feb 2014 #8
formaldehyde! good, someone starts to really test the water & reports the findings in public. Sunlei Feb 2014 #9
"Dr" Tierney sounds like an idiot Scairp Feb 2014 #11
Formaldehyde - dead bodies packman Feb 2014 #10
Two Words. OK, four: Brigid Feb 2014 #12

bkanderson76

(266 posts)
1. We Really Don't Know the Possible Health Effects of Your
Fri Jan 31, 2014, 07:28 PM
Jan 2014

Tainted water, so, just take little-bitty sips......that public health official needs his head held in a barrel of this water like a thirteen year-old bobbing for apples....

Marthe48

(16,949 posts)
2. On local news, it hasn't been over
Fri Jan 31, 2014, 07:36 PM
Jan 2014

This week, there were reports of formaldehyde in the water and if you are using it to shower, you are inhaling a carcinogenic chemical. I live in Ohio, right across from WV, and we get Charleston and Huntington news on TV.

I f you live in the affected water, make sure your bottled water is up to standard. According to NRDC.org up to 25% of bottled water is just tap water, sometimes treated further, sometimes not. And if the bottled water comes from a local supplier, it might not be any safer than what is coming out of the tap.

theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
5. Good advice
Sat Feb 1, 2014, 07:08 AM
Feb 2014

Of course, the problem goes much deeper than just drinking water. What do folks use for bathing and washing? What about wildlife and plants, crops, et al? If this had happened in any place other than Appalachia, the MSM would be all over this.

WHEN CRABS ROAR

(3,813 posts)
4. This sums it up simply.
Fri Jan 31, 2014, 09:33 PM
Jan 2014

"Scientists don't know the possible health effects of exposure to the chemical."

I might add they don't know the effects of about 85,000 other chemicals that are in current use, they haven't did long term studies on them.

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
6. It gets worse:
Sat Feb 1, 2014, 07:28 AM
Feb 2014
- But then we knew it would, didn't we?

More Water Woes In West Virginia, This Time With Formaldehyde

ESQUIRE
By Charles P. Pierce
January 31, 2014

It has been amusing to watch the local politicians and government officials in West Virginia try to comfort their constituents, while simultaneously keeping faith with the corporations to whom they have been whoring out the state for two centuries, including the hilariously named -- and now conveniently bankrupt -- Freedom Industries, which poisoned all the water in the state.
    Scott Simonton, a Marshall University environmental engineer, told a legislative committee Wednesday that he found cancer-causing formaldehyde -- which he said is one possible breakdown product from the chemical -- in one local water sample and that the continued lack of data on the chemicals that leaked into the Elk is very concerning. "It's frightening, it really is frightening," said Simonton, who is a member of the state Environmental Quality Board and also consults for at least one local law firm that's filed suit over the leak. "What we know scares us -- and we know there's a lot more we don't know."

Gee, that sounds bad. Wait, here's some people from the state to reassure us.
    Dr. Letitia Tierney, commissioner of the Bureau for Public Health, said Wednesday evening that the chemists the state had consulted with all said the formaldehyde could not have come from the MCHM. "Our experts are all in agreement that it's unlikely that his findings are in any way related to the chemical spill," she said. "It's already in our environment."

The formaldehyde in your water is not from the spill. The formaldehyde in your water is from...somewhere else. "Formaldehyde In Your Water -- It's The New Normal."

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theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
7. Wow. So no need to worry...
Sat Feb 1, 2014, 09:30 AM
Feb 2014

...the formaldehyde is "already in the environment". I feel better already.

There isn't an official connected with this travesty with an ounce of credibility.

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
8. There is no way Dr. Letitia Tierney nor any so-called experts could know......
Sat Feb 1, 2014, 09:55 AM
Feb 2014

...whether or not the formaldehyde might be a break-down constituent from the chemical spill since the owners of the company have previously failed to disclose chemical spills and the contents inside their tanks. And probably wouldn't have said anything in this case if it hadn't become necessary to deal with it directly.

- Which is why their first step in dealing with the emergency was to protect their own asses by filing bankruptcy. Dr. Tierney, you and your experts are frauds.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
9. formaldehyde! good, someone starts to really test the water & reports the findings in public.
Sat Feb 1, 2014, 10:00 AM
Feb 2014

Private groups should test all the air, water and soil and report all the findings.

Scairp

(2,749 posts)
11. "Dr" Tierney sounds like an idiot
Sat Feb 1, 2014, 05:17 PM
Feb 2014

What kind of health professional would say anything like this, unless they are on someone's payroll. Formaldehyde is not "already" in any environment in large quantities or we would all be nicely embalmed. Someone check her credentials. I suspect she got her degree online.

Well, it's almost that bad; she's never been out of WVa. But she does speak French, allegedly.

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
10. Formaldehyde - dead bodies
Sat Feb 1, 2014, 02:36 PM
Feb 2014

Shudder at even thinking of drinking water being filtered thru a graveyard on its way to a drinking source. Then again, grew up in Pennsylvania where the local streams ran green and red from mine run-offs and the streams fed into the water supply somewhere along the line after disappearing into the ground.

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