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jsr

(7,712 posts)
Tue Feb 11, 2014, 02:50 PM Feb 2014

U.S. appeals court quashes IRS tax-return preparer crackdown

Source: Reuters

Feb 11 (Reuters) - A U.S. appeals court on Tuesday upheld a lower court ruling that quashed the U.S. Internal Revenue Service's authority to regulate tax-return preparers, dealing a blow to the Obama administration's bid to fight tax preparation fraud.

A federal court judge had invalidated test-taking and continuing education requirements the IRS wanted to impose on hundreds of thousands of unregulated tax-return preparers.

"We agree with the District Court that the IRS's statutory authority ... cannot be stretched so broadly as to encompass authority to regulate tax-return preparers," the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia said in its unanimous ruling.

The latest decision means the status quo will prevail for now in an industry led by H&R Block Inc, a handful of mid-tier firms, and thousands of tiny, mom-and-pop firms.

Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/02/11/usa-tax-preparers-idUSL2N0LG12O20140211

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U.S. appeals court quashes IRS tax-return preparer crackdown (Original Post) jsr Feb 2014 OP
Whatever one thinks of tax preparers .... former9thward Feb 2014 #1
I strongly disagree ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2014 #4
Your first sentence is an argument the IRS should have made to Congress. former9thward Feb 2014 #5
The SEC, FTC and various other ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2014 #6
Congress has given them that power. former9thward Feb 2014 #7
I think Congress hasn't given those agencies the authority ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2014 #11
Not in the US Consitution happyslug Feb 2014 #13
Got'cha ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2014 #15
Actually after reading the opinion, I think the Judges are WRONG happyslug Feb 2014 #17
Actually ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2014 #18
Yaaay! More tax fraud! bobclark86 Feb 2014 #2
Rich people are not using H&R Block hack89 Feb 2014 #3
sorry... upper middle class... bobclark86 Feb 2014 #9
How will training prevent cheating? hack89 Feb 2014 #12
No ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2014 #8
Yeah, protect the consumer from bad tax preparers. bobclark86 Feb 2014 #10
Here is the actual opinion happyslug Feb 2014 #14
That's not really a crackdown. JoeyT Feb 2014 #16

former9thward

(31,997 posts)
1. Whatever one thinks of tax preparers ....
Tue Feb 11, 2014, 03:06 PM
Feb 2014

This decision was correct. The IRS had simply made up regulations which they had no authority in the law to do.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
4. I strongly disagree ...
Tue Feb 11, 2014, 03:59 PM
Feb 2014

who better to regulate those preparing taxes than the agency charged with reviewing their work?

But I guess rather than ensuring a measure of minimum competence, we should just let the market regulate them ... when enough consumers get fleeced by competent/unethical tax preparers, consumers will vote with their feet and no patronize them.

former9thward

(31,997 posts)
5. Your first sentence is an argument the IRS should have made to Congress.
Tue Feb 11, 2014, 04:03 PM
Feb 2014

In order to pass an appropriate law giving them that power. But the IRS did not, so here we are.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
6. The SEC, FTC and various other ...
Tue Feb 11, 2014, 04:08 PM
Feb 2014

governmental agencies have the authority to regulate the entry requirements for the various market participants in their areas ... why not the IRS?

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
11. I think Congress hasn't given those agencies the authority ...
Tue Feb 11, 2014, 04:13 PM
Feb 2014

but rather the U.S. Constitution gives governmental agencies the power to take such action/impose such regulations as to effectuate the agencies purpose.

 

happyslug

(14,779 posts)
13. Not in the US Consitution
Tue Feb 11, 2014, 05:09 PM
Feb 2014

Under the US Constitution, the Executive, i.e. the President, or anyone with delegated power from the President OR delegated power from Congress, can make regulations, but only to the extent of the delegation of power.

Other then the powers listed in the US Constitution (which reserved the power to tax to Congress) to the President, all power belongs to Congress.

The purpose of any agency is whatever power Congress delegated to that agency. If Congress did not delegate a power, the agency has no such power. Agencies had no inherent power unless Congress expressly granted such power or such power is implied among the list of actual powers listed.

The IRS, being an Executive Agency but dealing with TAXES, which is expressly reserved to Congress has only the power Congress has granted it and in this case the power to regulate Tax prepares was NOT a power granted to the IRS by Congress.

Here is the actual Case:

http://www.cadc.uscourts.gov/internet/opinions.nsf/B63C3129A4FE761985257C7C00539949/$file/13-5061-1479431.pdf

The Court noted that Congress in 1884:

As statutory authority for the new regulations, the IRS has relied on 31 U.S.C. § 330. Originally enacted in 1884, that statute authorizes the IRS to “regulate the practice of representatives of persons before the Department of the Treasury.” 31 U.S.C. § 330(a)(1). In the first 125 years after the statute’s enactment, the Executive Branch never interpreted the statute to authorize regulation of tax-return preparers. But in 2011, the IRS decided that the statute in fact did authorize regulation of tax-return preparers.


The Court then goes on and say the 1884 act does not apply to tax preparers:

1. The Statute covers "Representatives of persons", and that terms means someone who has the Power to BIND another. i.e an Agent can bind a principal, but tax preparers are NOT such agents for they can NOT bind the tax payer, all they are doing is filling out paperwork.

2. The Term "Practice" for 125 years was restricted to Lawyers and Accountants before the IRS itself, not people filling out paperwork, paperwork signed NOT by the tax preparer but by the tax payer.

3. The original act was included in an Act as part "of a War Department appropriation for “horses and other property lost in the military service.” and included the following paragraph:

Secretary of the Treasury may prescribe rules and regulations governing the recognition of agents, attorneys, or other persons representing claimants before his Department, and may require of such persons, agents and attorneys, before being recognized as representatives of claimants, that they shall show that they are of good character and in good repute, possessed of the necessary qualifications to enable them to render such claimants valuable service, and otherwise competent to advise and assist such claimants in the presentation of their cases


Which shows again the thrust was to people who acted as agents not just helped fill out paperwork

4. “It is a fundamental canon of statutory construction that the words of a statute must be read in their context and with a view to their place in the overall statutory scheme.” Given this was part of an overall regulation of AGENTS (including Attorneys) who acted for others, as oppose to someone who just help someone fill out paperwork.

5. "The Supreme Court has stated that courts should not lightly presume congressional intent to implicitly delegate decisions of major economic or political significance to agencies". I.e if it can be shown that Congress did not intent a delegation of power, no delegation of power has been granted.

6. That the IRS from 1884 to 2011 NEVER used this Statute to regulate tax preparers, implies the IRS for 125 years assumed no such delegation of powers to regulate tax preparers existed. Congress failing to "correct" this interpretation implies Congress agreed with the IRS view that no regulations of tax preparers where intended to be included in the statute in question.
 

happyslug

(14,779 posts)
17. Actually after reading the opinion, I think the Judges are WRONG
Tue Feb 11, 2014, 05:59 PM
Feb 2014

The Statute in question, while passed in 1884, clearly covers anyone who "practice" involved the IRS can be regulated by the IRS. I would make the argument that includes filling out paperwork, for that is what Lawyers and accountants do when they practice in front of the IRS. The court's interpretation of what is "Practice" and what is an "agent" is to narrow, people go to Tax preparers for advice on how to fill out tax forms, thus such tax preparers are acting like Attorneys and Accountants, both of whom had long been regulated by the IRS when it comes to practice in front of the IRS.

Thus, this case may be appealed to the US Supreme Court, to see if they agree that Tax preparers are NOT providing service that amounts to practice in front of the IRS.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
18. Actually ...
Tue Feb 11, 2014, 06:47 PM
Feb 2014

the points you raised in this post were my thought while/after reading your initial post (citing to the opinion); but I did/don't have time to really dissect this.

But quickly, tax preparation is far more than filling a scribe's/clerical function role ... their work involves a significant amount of independent decision making/regulation interpretation. That is why H&R Block and Jackson Hewitt do months long training and their pay scheme placing a premium of year after year preparers.

bobclark86

(1,415 posts)
2. Yaaay! More tax fraud!
Tue Feb 11, 2014, 03:35 PM
Feb 2014

Because it's mostly rich people who screw with their taxes, so good for them!

hack89

(39,171 posts)
3. Rich people are not using H&R Block
Tue Feb 11, 2014, 03:39 PM
Feb 2014

trust me on this one. They use real CPA's and lawyers.

And I question your belief that only rich people cheat on their taxes.

bobclark86

(1,415 posts)
9. sorry... upper middle class...
Tue Feb 11, 2014, 04:11 PM
Feb 2014

And yes, I think poorly on people who cheat on their taxes. People who prepare taxes in exchange for money should have to be trained to do it.

BTW, far more people cheat on their taxes than rip off welfare. Where's the GOP outrage on that one?

hack89

(39,171 posts)
12. How will training prevent cheating?
Tue Feb 11, 2014, 04:28 PM
Feb 2014

it might prevent unintentional errors but if one is inclined to cheat, all the training in the world will not prevent it. Nobody is more trained then the high powered experts rich people use to avoid taxes.

bobclark86

(1,415 posts)
10. Yeah, protect the consumer from bad tax preparers.
Tue Feb 11, 2014, 04:12 PM
Feb 2014

That's a valid, important thing.

Apparently, Congress just needs to stop being, well, Congress, and do something about it.

JoeyT

(6,785 posts)
16. That's not really a crackdown.
Tue Feb 11, 2014, 05:50 PM
Feb 2014

More like an attempt to actually protect consumers from shady people and incompetent people.

I can't think of anyone better than the IRS to regulate and police them.

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