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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Tue Feb 11, 2014, 03:16 PM Feb 2014

Felons Should Regain Voting Rights After Serving: Holder

Source: Bloomberg

By Del Quentin Wilber Feb 11, 2014 10:49 AM ET

Felons who have served their sentences shouldn’t be blocked from voting by state laws that disproportionately affect minorities, Attorney General Eric Holder said.

“These restrictions are not only unnecessary and unjust, they are also counterproductive,” Holder said in remarks today in Washington. “These laws deserve to be not only reconsidered but repealed.”

Holder’s push for restoring voting rights of felons is the latest change he’s seeking in long-standing criminal justice policies that he has said do nothing to make Americans safer and have steep costs.

Last year, he announced that low-level, nonviolent drug offenders would no longer be charged with federal crimes that impose strict mandatory minimum sentences. He has also pushed for increased availability of drug-treatment programs and changes in how officials handle former inmates to reduce the numbers who return to crime.

Read more: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-02-11/felons-should-regain-voting-rights-after-serving-holder.html

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Felons Should Regain Voting Rights After Serving: Holder (Original Post) Purveyor Feb 2014 OP
Proactive work for the banksters? Scuba Feb 2014 #1
K&R Coyotl Feb 2014 #2
Great idea. Agree. democratisphere Feb 2014 #3
This will help black people.... Gerhard28 Feb 2014 #4
Oops, here's another one! Gerhard28 Feb 2014 #6
Good idea. nt bemildred Feb 2014 #5
Fuck, no. Orsino Feb 2014 #7
That is one thing missing from most felony sentences Half-Century Man Feb 2014 #8
Never a factor for employment? Lost_Count Feb 2014 #13
Actually, legally, the price for committing a crime can not extend beyond the sentence Half-Century Man Feb 2014 #14
Why? RedstDem Feb 2014 #9
They should have voting rights while in prison. Luminous Animal Feb 2014 #10
I agree... (nt) petronius Feb 2014 #11
Agree. (nt) Heidi Feb 2014 #16
Especially those one joint felons. heaven05 Feb 2014 #12
Felon lists are also used to purge thousands of non-felons from voter rolls. toddwv Feb 2014 #15
The punishment should stop once you serve your time. CFLDem Feb 2014 #17
Political disenfranchisement of minorities and poor peoples is the goal of these laws. Jesus Malverde Feb 2014 #18
 

Gerhard28

(59 posts)
4. This will help black people....
Tue Feb 11, 2014, 03:47 PM
Feb 2014

....since our "justice" system puts so many of them in prison.

The recent reduction in sentences for crack cocaine to match powder cocaine will also help black people.

When I voted for Obama, I hoped he would do something to help black people, but these are the only two examples I can think of.

Can anyone think of others?

 

Gerhard28

(59 posts)
6. Oops, here's another one!
Tue Feb 11, 2014, 04:14 PM
Feb 2014
President Obama to launch major new effort to help young men of color. http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014724161

A flurry of activity, or so it seems.


Orsino

(37,428 posts)
7. Fuck, no.
Tue Feb 11, 2014, 04:20 PM
Feb 2014

No competent adult citizen should lose voting rights, ever. How the hell are we going to reform our incarceration culture when its victims are silenced permanently or for years at a time?

Half-Century Man

(5,279 posts)
8. That is one thing missing from most felony sentences
Tue Feb 11, 2014, 06:15 PM
Feb 2014

an ending.
Once you pay you debt to society, it should be over. It should not be a factor for employment. It should not be used to permanently subjugate a person who made a mistake or was forced to act desperately.
[Disclaimer: Not to be applied in all cases, ie sexual predators, crimes committed while armed, etc.]

 

Lost_Count

(555 posts)
13. Never a factor for employment?
Tue Feb 11, 2014, 08:36 PM
Feb 2014

Would you want a thief to work at your bank?

A rapist to work at your women's gym?

Pedophiles at the local school?

The list goes on and on.

I'd be curious to know what percentage you think is in prison for a "mistake" or were forced into their crimes.

The price for these crimes extends beyond the formal justice system.

Half-Century Man

(5,279 posts)
14. Actually, legally, the price for committing a crime can not extend beyond the sentence
Tue Feb 11, 2014, 08:57 PM
Feb 2014

imposed by a Judge. But, there is a large amount of De Facto vigilante punishment being dispensed by non-qualified lay persons. This illegal subliminal "cruel and unusual punishment" adversely affects millions of people, including a disproportionate amount of minorities. There should be legislation to protect the ones who paid their debt.

As I allowed for in my original answer, If a Judge declares someone a sexual predator or violent felon, then further restrictions on their lives are called for. On Edit.....I must have erased the small section about sexual predators and violent crimes.

Sorry about that.

toddwv

(2,830 posts)
15. Felon lists are also used to purge thousands of non-felons from voter rolls.
Tue Feb 11, 2014, 10:21 PM
Feb 2014

It's an all-to-common tactic. Purge a few tens of thousands, whose going to cross check if they have felonies or not?

 

CFLDem

(2,083 posts)
17. The punishment should stop once you serve your time.
Wed Feb 12, 2014, 01:04 PM
Feb 2014

Or at least that's how it supposed to be in America, the land of the free.

Only time prior time served should count is for repeat offenders or when people's security is at stake.

Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
18. Political disenfranchisement of minorities and poor peoples is the goal of these laws.
Wed Feb 12, 2014, 02:36 PM
Feb 2014

They are disgusting.

I'd go further I think prisoners should also retain their voting rights.

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