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onehandle

(51,122 posts)
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 08:48 PM Feb 2014

South Dakota Bill Threatens Abortion Providers With Life In Prison

Source: Huffington Post

Doctors in South Dakota could face life in prison for performing virtually any abortion procedure under a new bill proposed by a Republican state lawmaker.

House Bill 1241 would make it a felony to perform any abortion procedure that causes a fetus to become "dismembered." Because fetuses are rarely removed completely intact during abortions, the bill could effectively ban the procedure entirely.

"This doesn't look like anything I've ever seen before," Elizabeth Nash, state issues manager for the Guttmacher Institute, told HuffPost. "It looks like it's trying to ban abortion using language that is completely unfamiliar and very inflammatory."

State Rep. Isaac Latterell (R), the bill’s sponsor, told the Argus Leader that the bill is intended to outlaw "gruesome" abortion procedures. “It just makes clear that a certain procedure that is totally horrific and gruesome to any reasonable person would not be an acceptable method of ending a child’s life, and that is to dismember or decapitate a living, unborn child,” he said.

Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/02/13/south-dakota-abortion-bil_0_n_4781652.html

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South Dakota Bill Threatens Abortion Providers With Life In Prison (Original Post) onehandle Feb 2014 OP
Life begins at conception, and ends at birth Faygo Kid Feb 2014 #1
Can't we find the "bi-partisan" "middle"?!?! blkmusclmachine Feb 2014 #20
i will never understand the "conservative" obsession with the contents of a women's uterus noiretextatique Feb 2014 #2
Especially when Mr.Bill Feb 2014 #4
Look who finances these politicians -- old, rich white guys Samantha Feb 2014 #9
I never thought of it... awoke_in_2003 Feb 2014 #22
Bingo CFLDem Feb 2014 #29
Living, unborn????? mrmpa Feb 2014 #3
No law school at all, evidently. CBHagman Feb 2014 #17
For people that claim to be for fiscal responsibility Jake Stern Feb 2014 #5
All of the Republicans should be indicted immediately for impersonating a licensed Timez Squarez Feb 2014 #6
I wanna call the guys who come up with these things fucking pigs 47of74 Feb 2014 #7
The thing that really gets me Stonepounder Feb 2014 #8
If abortions are legal...how can they imprison Drs. for performing them? Auntie Bush Feb 2014 #10
But how long will it take... awoke_in_2003 Feb 2014 #23
I wonder if this is a new ALEC bill?.... prairierose Feb 2014 #11
Might have to fly his patients to him if this passes. Lars39 Feb 2014 #14
This, from the party of "limited government..." Aquavit Feb 2014 #12
I believe George Carlin said it best sakabatou Feb 2014 #13
"not every ejaculation... awoke_in_2003 Feb 2014 #25
South Dakota is hardcore anti-abortion country. Comrade Grumpy Feb 2014 #15
so the ob/gyns will be leaving the state if this passes greymattermom Feb 2014 #16
I say...Life in prison for these freaks. SoapBox Feb 2014 #18
Is this Russia?!?! blkmusclmachine Feb 2014 #19
No, Saudi Arabia. Russia, last time I checked, was fine with abortion but not The Pill or IUDs Hekate Feb 2014 #26
K&R. (nt) Kurovski Feb 2014 #21
Doctors have always been the weak link in the chain of women's health care Hekate Feb 2014 #24
Decapitate a living child? Does one decapitate above, or below, the gill arch? NT booksenkatz Feb 2014 #27
1241 Turbineguy Feb 2014 #28

Faygo Kid

(21,478 posts)
1. Life begins at conception, and ends at birth
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 08:56 PM
Feb 2014

That's what these Repukes are all about.

Oh, and women should shut up and take it. These men know best, after all.

I'm sick and tired of these hypocrites.

 

blkmusclmachine

(16,149 posts)
20. Can't we find the "bi-partisan" "middle"?!?!
Fri Feb 14, 2014, 01:05 AM
Feb 2014

We can meet the GOP 98% of the way and call it a "deal." "The best we could do." Etc.

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
9. Look who finances these politicians -- old, rich white guys
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 09:43 PM
Feb 2014

They do not want to be a minority in 2050, and the only way to head that off is to make, let me repeat that, make more Caucasian woman have more babies -- a lot more.

Sam

mrmpa

(4,033 posts)
3. Living, unborn?????
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 09:06 PM
Feb 2014

If you're not born, you're not living. What planet is this Rep. from? What law school, or school did he graduate from?

CBHagman

(16,984 posts)
17. No law school at all, evidently.
Fri Feb 14, 2014, 12:11 AM
Feb 2014

He has a bachelor's degree in finance.

What I found most interesting in his record was his opposition to providing prenatal care for pregnant undocumented immigrants. His welfare stances are entirely predictable too.

[url]http://votesmart.org/candidate/58432/isaac-latterell#.Uv2WHM4tq1s[/url]

Jake Stern

(3,145 posts)
5. For people that claim to be for fiscal responsibility
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 09:09 PM
Feb 2014

conservatives sure love blowing boatloads of taxpayer money defending these laws.

 

Timez Squarez

(262 posts)
6. All of the Republicans should be indicted immediately for impersonating a licensed
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 09:27 PM
Feb 2014

medical doctor when passing the law.

 

47of74

(18,470 posts)
7. I wanna call the guys who come up with these things fucking pigs
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 09:31 PM
Feb 2014

But that would be deeply insulting and degrading to fucking pigs.

Stonepounder

(4,033 posts)
8. The thing that really gets me
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 09:39 PM
Feb 2014

is that they pass these stupid bills that are so unclear that no one knows what they mean, but they know that they are absolutely, totally, completely unconstitutional. But they spend the time, and effort, and taxpayer money to pass and defend this shit. And then they have the arrogance to stand up and say they are for 'fiscal responsibility'.

Auntie Bush

(17,528 posts)
10. If abortions are legal...how can they imprison Drs. for performing them?
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 09:48 PM
Feb 2014

How can laymen tell Drs. how to perform them? If this bill becomes law...I bet the SC will nullify it. I hope so anyway!

prairierose

(2,145 posts)
11. I wonder if this is a new ALEC bill?....
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 10:09 PM
Feb 2014

trust me, these repigs could not write a bill.... But it really does not apply here in SD anyway. There is only 1 abortion clinic. the Dr does not live in SD but flies in 1 day a week. There is no Dr that does late term abortions unless it is a medical emergency. So, I can't see how this even applies to this state. I figure it is ALEC floating another trial balloon here since they know it will fly through the 1 party rule here. And soon, there will be a petition to get this on the ballot and the people will vote at about 64% to repeal this new stupid law. But first, there will be law suits that the state will have the Attorney General spending taxpayer money to defend this new stupid bill.

Trust me on this. SD is ground zero for every forced birther trial law and the idiot repugnant party goes along with it every time. However, the people do not agree. This has been going on the years and still the D party does nothing to challenge every legislative district, since the DLC does not believe that states need state D parties.

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
15. South Dakota is hardcore anti-abortion country.
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 11:23 PM
Feb 2014

I go back there and forget that's the case, and then I make some remark about abortion, and people look at me all funny, and then I remember.

There's also homemade dead fetus billboards in farmers' fields along the highways.

I find the social climate there even more inimical than the weather.

greymattermom

(5,754 posts)
16. so the ob/gyns will be leaving the state if this passes
Thu Feb 13, 2014, 11:51 PM
Feb 2014

It's easy for doctors to move, and they will. Performing an abortion is sometimes a medical necessity. Better to move than face prison.

Hekate

(90,674 posts)
26. No, Saudi Arabia. Russia, last time I checked, was fine with abortion but not The Pill or IUDs
Fri Feb 14, 2014, 12:54 PM
Feb 2014

The interesting thing is this: when a totalitarian country legally allows and even encourages abortion as a birth control method, but also ensures that other methods are not readily available, it ensures that it retains the power to withdraw that legal protection any time it chooses. Nazi Germany and the USSR shared this characteristic. Both of them went through phases of vigorously encouraging population growth.

The Soviet Union may be gone but Putin is still here, and guess what I noticed about the last part of the fairy-tale rendition of Russian history during the opening ceremonies of the Olympics? An entire routine devoted to love, marriage, and baby buggies. Just a guess, but the anti-gay laws may not be the only social engineering going on.

Hekate

(90,674 posts)
24. Doctors have always been the weak link in the chain of women's health care
Fri Feb 14, 2014, 12:43 PM
Feb 2014

Harass them by following them (and their children) home, blow up their clinics, publicly shame them, murder them in their own churches, threaten them with prison.

Who can blame them if they just quit out of self defense? Likewise medical schools are teaching the necessary skills less as students stay away from the necessary classes.

Just pray to whatever god you believe in that you (or any woman of any age that you know) never, for any reason, need a D&C. It's a skilled and dangerous technique that is necessary for more than one thing. Anti-choicers are so fixated on its use for abortions that they would literally rather let women die... but we knew that already.

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