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jsr

(7,712 posts)
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 06:31 PM Feb 2014

Facebook to Buy Messaging Start-Up in $16 Billion Deal

Last edited Wed Feb 19, 2014, 09:05 PM - Edit history (1)

Source: New York Times

Facebook said on Wednesday that it would acquire WhatsApp, a messaging start-up, for $16 billion in cash and stock.

The eye-popping price is Facebook’s largest acquisition by far and marks a new height in the frenzy to acquire popular technology start-ups.

Facebook will pay $4 billion in cash and $12 billion worth of Facebook shares for WhatsApp. An additional $3 billion in restricted stock units will be granted to WhatsApp employees and founders. These units will vest over the next four years.

“WhatsApp is on a path to connect one billion people. The services that reach that milestone are all incredibly valuable,” Mark Zuckerberg, Facebook’s founder and chief executive, said in a statement. “I’ve known Jan for a long time and I’m excited to partner with him and his team to make the world more open and connected,” he added referring to Jan Koum, WhatsApp co-founder and chief executive

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Facebook to Buy Messaging Start-Up in $16 Billion Deal (Original Post) jsr Feb 2014 OP
I have a few things I need to sell for 16 billion.. (looking through boxes) now where is that hat... tomm2thumbs Feb 2014 #1
Anybody accepting FB stock Kelvin Mace Feb 2014 #2
I think you're right. displacedtexan Feb 2014 #3
Well, there is that four billion in cash AgingAmerican Feb 2014 #5
Yep, Kelvin Mace Feb 2014 #7
Exactly. And there are a bunch of punks on Wall Street who have never seen a down market BlueStreak Feb 2014 #13
Thanks for that video. Facebook is a fraud and this starts to pull the curtains open BlueStreak Feb 2014 #14
suckerberg Jesus Malverde Feb 2014 #4
Uh....a LOT of people use WhatsApp Xithras Feb 2014 #6
Lets hope they don't grow the service like friend feed. Jesus Malverde Feb 2014 #8
WhatsApp has a few advantages over SMS Xithras Feb 2014 #9
Interesting... Jesus Malverde Feb 2014 #10
I use WhatsApp DavidDvorkin Feb 2014 #11
Zuckerberg is buying 450 million cellphone numbers and their address books jsr Feb 2014 #12
Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2014 #15

tomm2thumbs

(13,297 posts)
1. I have a few things I need to sell for 16 billion.. (looking through boxes) now where is that hat...
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 06:59 PM
Feb 2014

hehehehe

 

Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
2. Anybody accepting FB stock
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 07:00 PM
Feb 2014

is an idiot.

Face is going to crash and burn a LOT of people.

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displacedtexan

(15,696 posts)
3. I think you're right.
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 07:09 PM
Feb 2014

I'd take that chunk of cash, though, and buy an island. I wonder how many people have to split that 4 billion.

 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
13. Exactly. And there are a bunch of punks on Wall Street who have never seen a down market
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 09:11 PM
Feb 2014

For many of them, their entire "investing" experience came during the period when the Fed has been flooding the economy with cash that nobody really wanted or needed. So it just drained into the stock market and propped up ridiculous stocks like Facebook.

Facebook is trading at over 100 year's worth of earnings whereas a normal company trades at maybe 15 years' worth of earnings. Raise your hand if you believe Facebook is going to be around 100 years from now.

Hell, raise your hand if you think Facebook is going to be a thing in 2020.

The only way that stock price makes a lick of sense is if you believe that Facebook will be able to "grow into" that price by sustaining an astronomical rate of earnings growth. But kids have already moved on -- Facebook is so 2012. Facebook is now where old people go to find out who died. Once advertisers catch up with that reality, Facebook will hit the wall.

But reality seems to be a couple of years behind. I have been doing option straddles on Facebook. The price keeps going up, but I know there will be a day when it comes crashing down. I make a little money on the upside move, but I will make a pot of money if there is a big crash. I'm betting on it.

 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
14. Thanks for that video. Facebook is a fraud and this starts to pull the curtains open
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 09:37 PM
Feb 2014

This is headed for a spectacular flame-out. I don't know it it will happen in 6 months or in 2 years, but it is going to happen.

Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
4. suckerberg
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 07:15 PM
Feb 2014

Who has heard of whatsapp?

He's trying to pretend it's hot like snap chat that told him to take a hike..

The fact the hottest social media is ephemeral must really bother him.

I sense desperation.

Fewer and fewer people are logging into Facebook and even fewer are sharing. The daily NSA stories really blow the buzz of the anonymity banning social services.

Xithras

(16,191 posts)
6. Uh....a LOT of people use WhatsApp
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 07:31 PM
Feb 2014

I've heard people draw parallels between WhatsApp/SnapChat and FaceBook/MySpace.

SnapChat is where all the bored teenagers hang out. WhatsApp appeals to a much broader group of users and has more international users.

A quick search shows that WhatsApp is used to transmit 350 million images a day. Snapchat is about 200 million.

I have both. I use WhatsApp all the time with lots of people. I only use Snapchat with my 17 year old son.

Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
8. Lets hope they don't grow the service like friend feed.
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 07:38 PM
Feb 2014

Whatsapp has great reviews at the app store.

It looks like I do most all that with sms.

Xithras

(16,191 posts)
9. WhatsApp has a few advantages over SMS
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 07:47 PM
Feb 2014

It has lots of little tools for group calling and messaging, is much faster at transmitting images and video, and supports features like Voice Messaging that aren't supported by SMS at all. Most people also don't have unlimited SMS plans and they can be quite expensive in some parts of the world. But the real advantage...and the reason that it has exploded internationally... is that SMS is carrier based, so you often won't get your SMS messages if you are travelling and roaming off-network. With WhatsApp, as long as you have a data connection or access to a wifi hotspot, you can get your messages.

Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
10. Interesting...
Wed Feb 19, 2014, 07:53 PM
Feb 2014

I know "Line" is popular in Japan. I think for similar reasons.

Thanks for your informative reply.

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