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theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
Fri Feb 21, 2014, 02:48 PM Feb 2014

Uganda's Yoweri Museveni seeks US help on homosexuality

Source: BBC News

21 February 2014 Last updated at 13:26 ET

Uganda's Yoweri Museveni seeks US help on homosexuality

Uganda's President Yoweri Museveni has asked the US to advise a team of scientists about homosexuality, as he considers whether to sign a law increasing punishments.

Mr Museveni's spokesman said the president would not sign the law until he had received the scientific advice.

Last week he said he had decided to sign the Anti-Homosexuality Bill, which parliament has passed.

The US has warned that enacting the bill would complicate relations.... MORE


Read more: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-26297356

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Timez Squarez

(262 posts)
1. US to Uganda:
Fri Feb 21, 2014, 03:15 PM
Feb 2014

Get rid of your fundamentalists (or make a new law against them) and learn how to use common sense. Problem over.

And while you're at it, get rid of the anti-gay laws.

 

Timez Squarez

(262 posts)
3. US to Uganda: I think changing the title from anti-gay to anti-fundamentalist
Fri Feb 21, 2014, 03:20 PM
Feb 2014

should be just fine.

These fundmanetalists are insane and needs to be imprisoned for life.

 

blkmusclmachine

(16,149 posts)
5. Museveni is a member of the shadowy Washington DC rightwing religious Cult known as "The Family."
Fri Feb 21, 2014, 10:32 PM
Feb 2014

Rumors are that "The Family" helped author Uganda's KILL THE GAYS bill.

Hillary Roddam Clinton has been an associate member of "The Family" since the Clintons arrived in DC in 1992.

"The Family" hosts the Presidents Prayer Breakfast every February in DC.

"The Family" owns and operates "Frathouse For Jesus" on C Street in Washington DC.

See Jeff Sharlet's expose' "The Family: The Secret Fundamentalism At The Heart Of American Power" (2008 Harper Collins)

alp227

(32,024 posts)
6. wow really? another reason I'm NOT ready for Hillary.
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 04:03 AM
Feb 2014
Mother Jones reported in '07:

Through all of her years in Washington, Clinton has been an active participant in conservative Bible study and prayer circles that are part of a secretive Capitol Hill group known as the Fellowship. Her collaborations with right-wingers such as Senator Sam Brownback (R-Kan.) and former Senator Rick Santorum (R-Pa.) grow in part from that connection. "A lot of evangelicals would see that as just cynical exploitation," says the Reverend Rob Schenck, a former leader of the militant anti-abortion group Operation Rescue who now ministers to decision makers in Washington. "I don't....there is a real good that is infected in people when they are around Jesus talk, and open Bibles, and prayer."

RainDog

(28,784 posts)
7. I hope Scott Lively is convicted of crimes against humanity
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 05:52 PM
Feb 2014

Last edited Sat Feb 22, 2014, 07:28 PM - Edit history (1)

http://www.advocate.com/news/world-news/2013/08/15/scott-lively-will-be-tried-fueling-antigay-persecution-uganda

He has already implicated himself by saying he influenced Putin's homophobic laws.

“Yes, I think I influenced the Russian law,” Lively told NBC News.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/19/scott-lively-russian-anti-gay-laws_n_3952053.html


The world needs this sort of ruling to place religious bigotry in its proper place. He has gone beyond free speech to attempts to create genocidal laws. If he had helped Hitler write the Final Solution at the Wannsee Conference, he would've been guilty of genocide in that instance too, even if he didn't stick around for the law to be implemented.

Lively became known as a prominent spokesman for the OCA during its bruising campaigns, and he was earning a reputation for belligerence, as well. In a 1991 incident, he allegedly threw lesbian photographer Catherine Stauffer against a wall at a screening of an OCA video and then dragged her out of the room by her hair. She sued both Lively and the OCA, and a jury ruled that Lively used unreasonable force and awarded Stauffer $30,000.

...Lively stated in a program that had aired...on public access television that "Homosexuals created the Nazi Party, and everything that we think about when we think about Nazis actually comes from the minds and perverted ideas of homosexuals." Gay men, Lively continued in the program, "were the foundation of the Nazi Party."

he states that he has "come to discover, through various leads, a dark and powerful homosexual presence in other historical periods: the Spanish Inquisition, the French “Reign of Terror,” the era of South African apartheid, and the two centuries of American slavery. … I have come to believe … that homosexuality has truly been a ‘poisoned stream’ in human history." This theory has fueled much of Lively's activism since his days with the OCA.
http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-files/profiles/scott-lively


That last bit... finding homosexuals as the driving force behind racism against Africans and Jews, is to reach out to religious fundamentalists from those groups and spokespersons, like Alveda King - who is about the opposite of her aunt, Coretta. An orthodox Jewish guy is along for the religious fun and games too. This is a political/religious caucus Lively is going for. He is actively campaigning to create laws that promote genocide.

Someone's religious beliefs do not entitle anyone to lobby for murder because their religion is so sexist - b/c, really, this comes down to re-creating the "male is the head of the family" male supremacy culture of the monotheist religions. It's about power and the fear of losing a narrative about gender.

I have never, ever understood this whole fear from religious people - they make so many accommodations for themselves in life, but they can't extend that to others who don't share their opinion or orientation. I never cared if homosexuality was genetic or not because I never thought anyone had to defend him or herself for being homosexual. It did not hurt me in any way for anyone else to have a sex life that was appropriate for them, if they wanted to experiment, etc. etc. why should I be morally offended by that????????? - and I would expect others would extend that same courtesy to me. But I am part of a group (females) who were and are still viewed through a lens of myth that is a historical vision - from views about females to views about people from other continents. All second-class or not good enough for full human rights.

That's the reality that is changing. And it's a good thing.

Legal means to ostracize particular beliefs that infringe upon the rights of others is necessary to marginalize this last gasp of white christian male privilege to create the laws that empower them.

theHandpuppet

(19,964 posts)
9. He needs to be hauled to the Hague
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 07:22 PM
Feb 2014

He also needs to have his passport revoked so he can't travel around the globe spreading his hate.

kwassa

(23,340 posts)
10. This is actually a good thing. Museveni can stop the legislation.
Sat Feb 22, 2014, 10:33 PM
Feb 2014

Many of the nations of the world that have punitive laws against homosexuality have them as a holdover from being former English colonies. Uganda is one of these.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,316 posts)
11. That didn't last long; he's signed the bill to assert "independence in the face of Western pressure"
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 08:20 AM
Feb 2014
Ugandan President Yoweri Museveni signs anti-gay bill

Uganda's president has signed into law a bill toughening penalties for gay people and criminalising those who do not report them.

A government spokesman said President Yoweri Museveni wanted to assert Uganda's "independence in the face of Western pressure".
...
The new law punishes first-time offenders with 14 years in jail, and allows life imprisonment as the penalty for acts of "aggravated homosexuality".

It also makes it a crime not to report gay people - in effect making it impossible to live as openly gay.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-26320102


So the "seeking scientific advice" was just a lie to keep the pressure off over the weekend.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
12. Uganda can call anyone they don't like gay and get rid of them, thanks to the pray away the gay nuts
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 11:06 AM
Feb 2014

Now watch the 'for profit' prisons open and 'rent' their 'gay' inmates to the Unganda mines as slaves.

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