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Newsjock

(11,733 posts)
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 05:01 PM Feb 2014

Hispanic lawyers pull conference from Arizona

Source: Associated Press

The Hispanic National Bar Association says it will cancel its 2015 convention in Phoenix over legislation adding protections for people who assert their religious beliefs in refusing service to gays.

The lawyers’ association becomes one of the first groups to pull an event from that state.

President Miguel Alexander Pozo says the group’s board of governors voted unanimously not to hold its national convention in Arizona. He says, quote, “It is imperative that we speak up and take immediate action in the presence of injustice.”

Read more: http://www.azcentral.com/news/politics/free/20140226hispanic-lawyers-pull-conference-arizona.html

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Hispanic lawyers pull conference from Arizona (Original Post) Newsjock Feb 2014 OP
Good. jsr Feb 2014 #1
Absolutely! n/t marew Feb 2014 #3
That one has actually made the news LittleGirl Feb 2014 #2
she appears to love and revel in it. ChairmanAgnostic Feb 2014 #4
Yup! n/t LittleGirl Feb 2014 #20
For if she did have the brains, she'd be far more ChairmanAgnostic Feb 2014 #26
and she should be penalized for that.. frylock Feb 2014 #28
Even if Brewer vetoes it, the legislators have spoken for their bigoted constituents. Hoyt Feb 2014 #5
Kyrsten Sinema is the Representative from AZ ChazII Feb 2014 #34
Mine too dbackjon Feb 2014 #44
It's like where I live, most are or we wouldn't be getting such legislation. Hoyt Feb 2014 #71
There is an Hispanic Bar Association? Baitball Blogger Feb 2014 #6
I didn't either. iandhr Feb 2014 #10
I'll look into it. I'll be so disappointed if they're chamber of commerce types. Baitball Blogger Feb 2014 #38
HERE: and we should drop them an emai thanking them. dixiegrrrrl Feb 2014 #70
More lost jobs for Arizona...and it is the legislature's fault nt Lucky Luciano Feb 2014 #7
Everybody should pull out of AZ!!! Helen Borg Feb 2014 #8
Bankrupt the State. Let the only business that wants to be there be Chick Fil A types. blkmusclmachine Feb 2014 #60
I agree with the idea, but it's pre-mature. SpankMe Feb 2014 #9
It seems to me that the best time to exert pressure is when we still might change the outcome. LiberalAndProud Feb 2014 #12
I respectfully disagree. The Republians have clearly demostrated their hatered. olegramps Feb 2014 #13
You betcha! blkmusclmachine Feb 2014 #61
No way. Those "contemplating" should let her know so it may affect her vote. nm rhett o rick Feb 2014 #15
Better to push her into vetoing instead of waiting for a repeal. jeff47 Feb 2014 #19
Why wait Politicalboi Feb 2014 #21
This gay man loves Arizona dbackjon Feb 2014 #45
Best of luck to you! Hekate Feb 2014 #57
well what's the damn holdup? frylock Feb 2014 #29
Nope ... do it now ... that will prevent other states from going this route. JoePhilly Feb 2014 #62
They're welcome in California! KamaAina Feb 2014 #11
Yippee!! oldandhappy Feb 2014 #14
Not nice in the 'gloom' months. former9thward Feb 2014 #17
The NFL should pull the Super Bowl one way or the other. They have rhett o rick Feb 2014 #16
It is a three year process to do a Super Bowl. former9thward Feb 2014 #18
You may be right, but if the NFL announced today that it was moving the Arizona super bowl A Simple Game Feb 2014 #33
Yes and Sochi said it would be ready also. former9thward Feb 2014 #40
I suspect if you check around the country you would find more than a few football stadiums A Simple Game Feb 2014 #42
I guess the NFL doesn't know what it is doing when it awards games 4 years in advance. former9thward Feb 2014 #43
Why the attitude? Do you have an investment you are protecting? nm rhett o rick Feb 2014 #52
Yes, I own the stadium in Glendale where they will play the SB. former9thward Feb 2014 #55
^^This is how you know our Tent is TOO DAMN BIG^^ blkmusclmachine Feb 2014 #63
Republicans that's who CreekDog Feb 2014 #73
Looks like you responded to the wrong post. nm rhett o rick Feb 2014 #75
i responded to your question to former9thward CreekDog Feb 2014 #76
Ok, I get it. It's late but that's no excuse. Maybe the vodka. nm rhett o rick Feb 2014 #77
I heard one year they had four years notice and they still couldn't stop a nip slip! A Simple Game Feb 2014 #68
I am not saying it would be a Mission Impossible. former9thward Feb 2014 #69
The NFL pulled it from them in '93, I believe Mr.Bill Feb 2014 #36
They pulled it in 1991, two years in advance. former9thward Feb 2014 #41
Correct but back then ChazII Feb 2014 #56
Thank you for the details. Mr.Bill Feb 2014 #58
So you are insinuating that it might not be a good plan to move the Super Bowl. rhett o rick Feb 2014 #51
I don't care if they move the SB or not. former9thward Feb 2014 #54
Let me guess how you felt about Putin and Sochi... blkmusclmachine Feb 2014 #64
Who is stopping you from guessing? former9thward Feb 2014 #66
they didn't bluff when they moved it in 1993 CreekDog Feb 2014 #74
Nope you lose as usual. former9thward Feb 2014 #79
the 1993 Superbowl was taken from Arizona the year before CreekDog Feb 2014 #72
It was moved in 1991. former9thward Feb 2014 #80
Yup! Politicalboi Feb 2014 #23
i agree.. frylock Feb 2014 #30
Let it stand. No veto. TheCowsCameHome Feb 2014 #22
some more info: riversedge Feb 2014 #24
Great news. efhmc Feb 2014 #25
Muy bueno! Divernan Feb 2014 #27
This reminds me of the long-term effects of the anti-choice crowd. toby jo Feb 2014 #31
Call a hotel / resort / vacation spot / chamber of commerce, make reservations, TheCowsCameHome Feb 2014 #32
Not going to Veto not going to sign bpj62 Feb 2014 #35
Exactly. RoverSuswade Feb 2014 #53
And when the NFL moves, the Bigot Teabaggers will whine how the gay people ruined their NFL cash cow blkmusclmachine Feb 2014 #67
good--make republicans the outcasts that they should be dembotoz Feb 2014 #37
It surprises me that any Hispanic organization Mr.Bill Feb 2014 #39
That's a damn good point! another_liberal Feb 2014 #50
Good show. nt awoke_in_2003 Feb 2014 #46
If it should or shouldn't become law, I'd like to know which stores to avoid, maybe be required... Tikki Feb 2014 #47
Bravo! SoapBox Feb 2014 #48
That's gonna leave a mark. another_liberal Feb 2014 #49
The lawyers are probably afraid that their Citizenship will be questioned/service denied/humiliation blkmusclmachine Feb 2014 #59
Good Gothmog Feb 2014 #65
AZ is damaged. Those damn fool republican bigot legislators are going to cost the state millions, Zorra Feb 2014 #78

LittleGirl

(8,282 posts)
2. That one has actually made the news
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 05:04 PM
Feb 2014

We have no idea what shit storm Brewer is dealing with right now and I hope it's massive.
What the hell is taking her so long?
She's milking the media attention I would bet.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
28. and she should be penalized for that..
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 06:14 PM
Feb 2014

if she wants to run out the clock, and swoop in at the last minute to veto this shit, then the NFL really should reconsider hosting the SB there.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
5. Even if Brewer vetoes it, the legislators have spoken for their bigoted constituents.
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 05:08 PM
Feb 2014

Hope the pay the price for such hatred.

ChazII

(6,204 posts)
34. Kyrsten Sinema is the Representative from AZ
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 06:28 PM
Feb 2014

for my district. She is the first openly bisexual person elected to the U.S. Congress. Not all constituents are bigots.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krysten_Sinema

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
70. HERE: and we should drop them an emai thanking them.
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 10:49 PM
Feb 2014

Hispanic National Bar Association
1900 L Street NW, Suite 700
Washington, DC 20036
Phone: (202) 223-4777 | Fax: (202) 503-3403

Alba Cruz-Hacker
Chief Operating Officer & Executive Director
E: info@hnba.com

http://www.hnba.com/

SpankMe

(2,957 posts)
9. I agree with the idea, but it's pre-mature.
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 05:15 PM
Feb 2014

Anyone contemplating pulling business from AZ should wait until after she signs or vetoes.

LiberalAndProud

(12,799 posts)
12. It seems to me that the best time to exert pressure is when we still might change the outcome.
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 05:26 PM
Feb 2014

The window of opportunity is now, not after the law takes affect.

olegramps

(8,200 posts)
13. I respectfully disagree. The Republians have clearly demostrated their hatered.
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 05:29 PM
Feb 2014

Every one of the Republicans voted for this bill. Now that they are under fire three have recanted. I doesn't matter to me if she vetoed the bill. Their intent was clearly an act of hatred. As for McCain he is nothing more than a forked tongued weasel.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
19. Better to push her into vetoing instead of waiting for a repeal.
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 05:51 PM
Feb 2014

The time to apply pressure is now. If she vetoes, the pressure goes away. If she doesn't, it continues.

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
21. Why wait
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 06:08 PM
Feb 2014

They already spoke. If you're gay, you have to be crazy to go to Arizona and spend money. The "ONLY" reason this is being looked at is through a budget. If this made money for them, it would be law already. Until people vote for humanity, let them starve.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
62. Nope ... do it now ... that will prevent other states from going this route.
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 08:04 PM
Feb 2014

The AZ legislature has demonstrated it can't be trusted.

Send a message. Pass laws like this, your state is toast whether the Governor signs them or not.

oldandhappy

(6,719 posts)
14. Yippee!!
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 05:30 PM
Feb 2014

San Diego is really nice year round. Come on over and have your meetings here and enjoy the beach and flowers and all that non-desert stuff!!

A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)
33. You may be right, but if the NFL announced today that it was moving the Arizona super bowl
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 06:22 PM
Feb 2014

by tomorrow they would have at least 10 offers, each saying they would be ready in time.

former9thward

(31,973 posts)
40. Yes and Sochi said it would be ready also.
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 06:39 PM
Feb 2014

And they had years and years to get ready. They were doing things literally at the last minute before the games began.

A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)
42. I suspect if you check around the country you would find more than a few football stadiums
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 06:50 PM
Feb 2014

with the necessary capacity and enough nearby restaurants and hotel rooms to accommodate the fans.

How cute that you think they would have to build any new structures.

on edit: spelling error

former9thward

(31,973 posts)
43. I guess the NFL doesn't know what it is doing when it awards games 4 years in advance.
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 06:52 PM
Feb 2014

Maybe you should get a job there. They need you. Now that would be cute.

former9thward

(31,973 posts)
55. Yes, I own the stadium in Glendale where they will play the SB.
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 07:40 PM
Feb 2014

God, I've been outed. Now what I am going to do?

A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)
68. I heard one year they had four years notice and they still couldn't stop a nip slip!
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 08:20 PM
Feb 2014

Better move them out to six years.

It's a football game, even I could make it a super duper extra fancy one if given one years advance notice. The extra notice is to eliminate any conflict with conventions and such. They wouldn't ever be stupid enough to book the talent more than a few months out. Extra room for media would be a slight concern, any large venue stadium could handle it on a very short notice. The main concern would be hotel room availability.

I may be wrong, educate me please.

Oh and I would be cute because I would be able to design my own hat with the correct teams and everything. I heard they know the teams 4 years in advance.

former9thward

(31,973 posts)
69. I am not saying it would be a Mission Impossible.
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 08:27 PM
Feb 2014

Of course, if necessary, they could move it. But it is my belief they are bluffing with their statement. I actually hope they do move even if the bill is vetoed. That will show everyone they weren't bluffing. We will see if they do that.

ChazII

(6,204 posts)
56. Correct but back then
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 07:43 PM
Feb 2014

it wasalso put to vote of the people. It was not only the legislature that denied a state holiday for MLK. The second time it was put up for a state wide vote it was passed. However, the legislature did screw up but not letting it stay in committee.

November 6, 1990 Arizona voters rejected Proposition 301 which would have established the third Monday in January as Martin Luther King, Jr./Civil Rights Day, a paid holiday for state employees and would have made Columbus Day an unpaid observance on the second Sunday in October. Arizona voters also rejected by a narrow margin Proposition 302 which would have established the third Monday in January as Martin Luther King, Jr./Civil Rights Day, a paid holiday for state employees and retained Columbus Day as a paid holiday on the second Monday of October. (Pat Flannery "King Day Narrowly Defeated: Angered Backers Cite Report on CBS" Phoenix Gazette, November 7, 1990, p. A1).

http://www.azlibrary.gov/links/Kingholiday.aspx

Mr.Bill

(24,274 posts)
58. Thank you for the details.
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 07:56 PM
Feb 2014

My only point was there is precedent for the NFL changing the location of the Superbowl for political reasons. I have no doubt they would do it again.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
51. So you are insinuating that it might not be a good plan to move the Super Bowl.
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 07:30 PM
Feb 2014

Ok, leave it and hope the fans and players will overlook AZ bigotry.

former9thward

(31,973 posts)
54. I don't care if they move the SB or not.
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 07:39 PM
Feb 2014

I am not the NFL. But the point is they are bluffing and everyone knows it. And why just the SB? Are you proposing that professional sports games only be played in states that have laws banning sexual orientation discrimination laws? That would be a minority of states.

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
74. they didn't bluff when they moved it in 1993
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 11:28 PM
Feb 2014

nope. they moved it to California, and a just one year before.

you love being wrong, well, you don't like when someone corrects you.

because my correction helps people here realize that it can be moved on short notice.

and you want them to think it's impossible.

nice game but you lose.

former9thward

(31,973 posts)
79. Nope you lose as usual.
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 11:10 AM
Feb 2014

They pulled in in 1991 not 1992. And if you think the SB is the same now as it was almost 25 years ago you are dreaming. They were bluffing but I wish they weren't. I would love to see them try and move it.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
30. i agree..
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 06:18 PM
Feb 2014

and the longer she allows this to drag out, the easier it should be to make a decision to relocate the SB.

TheCowsCameHome

(40,168 posts)
22. Let it stand. No veto.
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 06:09 PM
Feb 2014

Then when the backlash is so overwhelming, watch these dirtbags scramble to repeal it, meanwhile this gets the message out loud and clear to any other states thinking about doing the same to forget it.

It will hurt for a while, but it will sink the radical conservatives that dream these stupid laws up for good, at least in Arizona.

 

toby jo

(1,269 posts)
31. This reminds me of the long-term effects of the anti-choice crowd.
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 06:20 PM
Feb 2014

It TX it's getting near impossible to have an abortion. In 18 years, there will be a lot more blacks, hispanics, and in general, poor people at their polls. Just waiting for those numbers to sink in for the righties.

I saw a graph once that showed the perfect parallel between crime and the beginning of abortion rights. Exactly 16 years after it was allowed, crime took a deep dive, everywhere.

Once of these days the light bulb will go on in TX. Glad to see the Hispanics leading the way on this one.

TheCowsCameHome

(40,168 posts)
32. Call a hotel / resort / vacation spot / chamber of commerce, make reservations,
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 06:22 PM
Feb 2014

then call back and tell them loud and clear that you're cancelling because of this 1062 bill.

I saw a hotel owner on the evening news yesterday, and he was sweating bullets. Beautiful. The backlash cometh.

bpj62

(999 posts)
35. Not going to Veto not going to sign
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 06:30 PM
Feb 2014

I think Brewer is going to walk away from this bill and let the courts handle it. She doesn't have the resolve to deal with the wing nuts in her party and she can tell the left that she didn't sign the bill. As for the Super Bowl the NFL can move that game very quickly. You have Miami, New Orleans, Houston among other cities that could quickly gear up for an event that is just under a year away. Money talks and unfortunately the people of Arizona are going to pay for this lunacy but at the same time they voted for these fools and this is what you get. Elections have consequences.

 

blkmusclmachine

(16,149 posts)
67. And when the NFL moves, the Bigot Teabaggers will whine how the gay people ruined their NFL cash cow
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 08:14 PM
Feb 2014

dembotoz

(16,799 posts)
37. good--make republicans the outcasts that they should be
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 06:35 PM
Feb 2014

actually surprised the hispanic bar would go there is in the first place

Mr.Bill

(24,274 posts)
39. It surprises me that any Hispanic organization
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 06:37 PM
Feb 2014

planned any event in Arizona in the first place, given how their legislature has treated Hispanic people in recent years.

Tikki

(14,556 posts)
47. If it should or shouldn't become law, I'd like to know which stores to avoid, maybe be required...
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 07:18 PM
Feb 2014

to put some kind of identifying logo in the window and advertising.
Or maybe the whole idea is to surprise customers by calling them out in front of others.

Sick, mean, stupid bullies.


Tikki

 

another_liberal

(8,821 posts)
49. That's gonna leave a mark.
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 07:27 PM
Feb 2014

I notice several other Red States are already back-pedaling pretty quickly on their own "It's OK to discriminate against gays on the basis of religious beliefs" laws. Still, the long-term damage to Republicans is not going to go away.

 

blkmusclmachine

(16,149 posts)
59. The lawyers are probably afraid that their Citizenship will be questioned/service denied/humiliation
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 08:00 PM
Feb 2014
After all, isn't that THE POINT of this hateful, anti-democratic, and business-UNfriendly legislation?!?!

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
78. AZ is damaged. Those damn fool republican bigot legislators are going to cost the state millions,
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 01:13 AM
Feb 2014

even though Brewer vetoed.

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