NJ teen Rachel Canning who sued parents goes home
Source: Newark Star-Ledger
Rachel Canning, the Morris County teenager who sued her parents to force them to pay her bills, has returned to her parents house in Lincoln Park, her parents attorney announced today.
Rachel, 18, has returned home and reunited with her parents and siblings. Her return home is not contingent on any financial and/or other considerations, her attorney Angelo Sarno, said in a statement.
A press conference to announce details of the development will take place at 1:30 p.m. in front of the law offices of Snyder & Sarno in Roseland.
In a case that has attracted international attention, Rachel was seeking a court order requiring the parents, Sean and Elizabeth Canning, to pay child support, her private school tuition at Morris Catholic High, college tutition and her legal fees.
Read more: http://www.nj.com/morris/index.ssf/2014/03/nj_teen_who_sued_parents_is_going_home.html
Sanity prevails. Despite the efforts of Christie Cronie John Inglisino. For additional insight into Mr. Inglisino and his character read here: Chris Christie crony is divorced from reality in Rachel Canning case (Mulshine): http://www.nj.com/opinion/index.ssf/2014/03/chris_christie_and_his_fellow_high-priced_lawyers_are_divorced_from_reality.html
mac56
(17,574 posts)Just sayin'
Yo_Mama
(8,303 posts)you'd just be glad to have her back.
And I've got to think that she's happy to be back too. Oh sure, the normal squabbles over chores, bathroom hogging, remotes, etc will resume, but she has siblings and parents and teen blowups usually do blow over quite quickly.
mac56
(17,574 posts)Let's just say there would have been a loonnnngggggg probationary period.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)and was unable to back it up. I wouldn't want that sociopath back. Nope.
Beach Rat
(273 posts)Thanks to Mr. Inglisino's meddling in another family's affairs and his crack legal advice he was able to insure that this young woman was exposed to national scorn and voyeurism before reconciling with her family. What a great guy! I was shocked to find out he was a close associate of Chris Christie. (shocked I tell you!)
calimary
(81,461 posts)Glad you're here! Gee a close associate of chris christie. They're the "family values" people, too, correct? As far as national scorn and voyeurism, well, since she's 18 she's old enough to start facing consequences for her actions. Dragging her parents through public hell like this, with an outsider's interference in pushing her toward litigation - MAN as a parent I don't think I could just let that one go unpunished. What a sense of entitlement she has. SHAME on her!!!! I look into the crystal ball and see a great deal of "You're GROUNDED!" in her future. Of course, there is also the voice of my late mother-in-law ringing in my ear about things like this: "well, they sure don't suck it out of their thumbs".
adigal
(7,581 posts)After losing in court??
I can't imagine y kids ever doing what she did. What a brat.
mopinko
(70,208 posts)seems like caving to an authoritarian jerk to me. ymmv
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)She is a spoiled girl who had a tantrum instead of being thankful for everything she has been given in life.
Mojo Electro
(362 posts)MynameisBlarney
(2,979 posts)Seems like the authoritarian jerk just got told to STFU and to get her ass home.
leftyohiolib
(5,917 posts)want and parents should just shutup and pay the bills
mopinko
(70,208 posts)but i also know what dysfunctional families look like.
DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)[font color=red]on edit: FIVE! Congratulations!!![/font]
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)ck4829
(35,090 posts)Enrique
(27,461 posts)davidpdx
(22,000 posts)I haven't followed the story closely so it's hard for me to have an opinion one way or the other.
DiverDave
(4,887 posts)I couldn't imagine the heartbreak of my kids doing this.
Oh, wait, I love my kids and they know it.
So, I don't think it'll happen here.
calimary
(81,461 posts)We have a daughter. We thank God down on our knees every day that she's as well-adjusted and level-headed as she is. She astounds us sometimes. She chose every date and every boyfriend carefully and objectively and never had many clouded-vision days. Incredibly clear-eyed and analytical and feet squarely on the ground. She never gave us any grief. Now she's out on her own, graduated from college, working full-time and just got promoted, and her guy now is really a terrific, intelligent, loving, and responsible young dude. DAYUM we lucked out!!! But then again, we worked on it very carefully from the beginning. And her little brother pretty much worships her (with good reason!). The rule around our house when they were both growing up was "much blessed, much obligated!"
Gotta admit, my first thoughts and concerns went to the parents. Granted, I'm thoroughly on the outside looking in and don't know all the details or internal circumstances. However, their daughter still sounds like a spoiled snot-nosed brat to me. My first thoughts and concerns about her were - "SHAME on you!!!"
DiverDave
(4,887 posts)Last edited Wed Mar 12, 2014, 07:43 PM - Edit history (1)
So much can turn a hormone filled kid...
Our 2 boys are a handful sometimes, but smart? Man, must be from their mom.
I trust and love them a lot, and they know it.
Secret of success? Maybe/maybe not.
But we are thankful to have them and make sure they know it.
I heard a co-worker, years ago, tell me he couldn't keep his hands off his newborn.
I didn't understand-then, but I've understood for 16 years just what he meant.
Heck, my guys are 13 and 16 and I STILL gotta touch them to assure myself they are really here.
Congrats on your kids, they sound cool.
But it was just as much you and their mom as them.
So a bit of self congrats are in order...IMHO
ScreamingMeemie
(68,918 posts)I'm just saying.
DiverDave
(4,887 posts)but I believe that if kids get the attention they deserve, it wont.
Just my .02
Sarah Ibarruri
(21,043 posts)ripcord
(5,537 posts)It doesn't seem like these problems were there before but then she gets involved with this guy and starts staying out late, drinking and stealing from her sisters.
My daughter got off track a bit because of a boyfriend but I had a talk with him and he took off, my daughter starts at Caltech in the fall.
Sarah Ibarruri
(21,043 posts)extended families. The extended family keep everything in check and maintain a standard of safety and reasonable behavior. Sounds like you did a great job.
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)with the boyfriend to turn things around.
Without going into too much detail, I think (and hope) we're back on track. My daughter too will start college this fall...
ripcord
(5,537 posts)But then I am 6'5 and weigh 245.
oldandhappy
(6,719 posts)Good Grief
She sure messed herself up. And sounds as if the lawyer is a few threads short.
I hope she gets a job and goes to community college and learns a few life lessons and I hope the lawyer is censured. None of this will happen, but...
rocktivity
(44,577 posts)Last edited Thu Oct 30, 2014, 01:58 AM - Edit history (1)
She is 18.Unless there's been a change in the law, that is the age at which you are considered a legal adult and your folks are no longer obligated to owe you jack. And unless there's been a change in the law, you have to be 21 to drink. Is she aware of that?
rocktivity
Yo_Mama
(8,303 posts)I think she'll do just fine. The parents also have a college fund for her and I read in one article that the father said she would get it whether she came back or not.
You can't judge a teen like this - they have hormonal swings that make them teenagers. But those blow over.
tammywammy
(26,582 posts)That doesn't even cover expected 1 year tuition cost for an out of state student.
http://www.uvm.edu/~stdfinsv/?Page=tuition-fees.html&SM=tuitionsubmenu.html
Yo_Mama
(8,303 posts)I know I'm an old fart, but every time I see numbers like that I nearly pass out.
tammywammy
(26,582 posts)I go to an in-state public school, and I pay about $1500 per 3hr credit class. For my undergrad (I graduated in 2012), that was a private school, but still in-state and I paid about $1200 per 3 hr credit class.
Yo_Mama
(8,303 posts)I don't think I would have the guts to take on the type of loans some kids are nowdays.
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)Its more for this coming year...
olddad56
(5,732 posts)worked extremely well for me. I went in the Navy right out of high school. When to school on the GI bill after I got out. Without a doubt, I learned more about life and about myself in the Navy, and had way more fun.
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)Thanks though!
tammywammy
(26,582 posts)AnneD
(15,774 posts)who will pay the bills like the lawyer, court costs, her tuition as she has been going to school. Someone was out some buck for this dog and pony show so who is ponying up.
I hope it isn't Mom and Dad but I have the feeling that they will and it will effect what the parents are able to do for the siblings.
calimary
(81,461 posts)Not sure how rigidly it's set up. But I do know people who have trust funds that were set up by grandparents and so forth, and the money was there basically for whatever reasons - including college. Some of those parents told their kids that if they ever screwed up badly, it was THEIR money that grandma left them that was going to be used to cover any lawyers fees, court costs, bail, or whatever. To me that sounds like a reasonable rule to make.
tammywammy
(26,582 posts)In her court paper she said they had a fundraiser to pay for her tuition for the spring. In the parent's court documents they said they told the school they were not going to be paying for the spring tuition within the allotted time of the contract.
For the lawyer, I guess the father that was fronting the money could then sue her for the cost, but that was one of the things she was asking for as well that her parent pay the lawyer & court costs. The father where she was staying said he'd already spent $12k on this!
Bodhi BloodWave
(2,346 posts)a lawyer (personally i think he should simply have to deal with the cost himself due to interfering in the other families business, this whole mess belonged in some kind of guidance group(at the lack of a better word) not a court room)
Walk away
(9,494 posts)She was 17 when most of this was going on. Without her parents consent she couldn't enter in to a binding contract. Plus, the lawyer knew she didn't have $$$ so unless he won the case and the judge ordered that the parents pay court fees....he is shit out of luck.
MADem
(135,425 posts)Bit of a narcissistic personality...oppositionally defiant, perhaps?
Of course, with Christie's crew, birds of a feather...
Laxman
(2,419 posts)Inglisino enabled this circus. Any adult, especially a parent, should have the common sense to diffuse the situation, not escalate it. Inglisino is truly a bad person. I've known him for a long time. I used to teach a class on state and local government. I used a short clip of a planning board meeting to demonstrate to the class how a local land use board conducted it proceedings. After showing the clip one of my students chimed in "I didn't completely understand what was happening but I'm pretty sure that guy in the dark suit (Inglisino) is a slimeball". I just told her, you have no idea.
MADem
(135,425 posts)Interfering in a family matter, letting underaged youngsters drink alcohol...though the pic I saw of him looked like he regularly enjoyed a snootful, himself so I guess that's not surprising...and that's not even getting into his relationship with Bridge Big Boy!
NYC Liberal
(20,136 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)Downwinder
(12,869 posts)Tried her wings and not ready to fly. Despite assistance.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)'child support money' incoming.
snooper2
(30,151 posts)I see her showing up on some random "reality" tv show down the road
Dread Pirate Roberts
(1,896 posts)RussBLib
(9,035 posts)hard to relate never having had any kids of my own
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Fuck her, I would leave her in the gutter. That was a disgusting ploy. She admitted he had never done the slightest thing inappropriate in all those years. She was hoping to scare cash out of him, and that is sociopathic.
MADem
(135,425 posts)It's that parental thing, though--you love them even if they suck shit from a dead dog's behind. You can disapprove, but it's tough to turn the back.
This kid has mental health issues. They can go hand-in-hand with high intelligence, which makes treatment more of a challenge if the individual doesn't think she has a problem. I'm thinking she needs to get to a shrink in a hurry.
The fact that she got so much h.a.t.e. from most people who heard the sordid details has no doubt yanked her up short--she's going to have to 'get correct' -- or at least fake it for awhile -- if she wants a roof over her head.
Hey, maybe she'll enjoy the dorm at the state school. Nothing wrong with 'em; in many cases you get the BETTER and more rigorous education at the state institutions of higher learning.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)You tell cruel lies? You can fuck off now, and keep it up forever. (not you of course, LOL) Ain;t got room for that shit, and people who pull that crap rarely change.
MADem
(135,425 posts)either.
From what I understand, it usually comes from a place of deep self-loathing, though it manifests itself in ways that don't make that perspective obvious at all. These people can cause horrific chaos amongst their family members, only feel "alive" when they are causing deep drama, and are frequently a major pain in the ass to be around.
I don't disagree with people who set firm boundaries with family members who are thus afflicted, and I certainly won't question your decisions in this regard, but it's the rare parent or sibling that doesn't wish that a magic pill was invented or someone had a swell new treatment that would enable them to "get better."
Unfortunately, some of these afflictions are among those things that -- thus far-- are resistant to treatment. Some folks "age out" of it, others are a pain till the day they die.
SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)eilen
(4,950 posts)rather, a ride to the nearest military recruitment center instead. This story was in the NY Post for god's sake. Talk about dragging the family through the mud because she decided to have a spoiled brat fit. If I were a college admissions counselor, I'd be withdrawing that acceptance. There are enough drama queens and behavior, comportment, values, discretion are important, would not want her name associated with my school.
Laxman
(2,419 posts)that I will endeavor to post on this evening in General Discussion. Imagine a Christie linked attorney with serious issue regarding conflict of interest! I just can't believe it.
With a 3-2 vote Tuesday night, the Parsippany council instructed its clerk to file ethics charges against the municipality's own township attorney, John Inglesino.
The charges allege Inglesino should have stepped down from his post, citing a recent legal opinion stating he has conflicts that should prevent him from serving Parsippany government.
Inglesino's been in the headlines in recent weeks for his role in the very public legal battle between 18-year-old Rachel Canning and her parents, Sean and Elizabeth. He funded the teen's lawsuit, in which she's trying to get her parents to pay for her tuition and living expenses, even though she was no longer living with them. As of Wednesday, the teen was back home.
http://www.nj.com/morris/index.ssf/2014/03/council_to_file_ethics_complaints_against_christie_ally_inglesino_in_parsippany.html
oh, and the idiot hasn't dismissed the lawsuit yet.
They blamed the Inglesinos for interfering with their ability to reconnect with her.
"If the Inglesino family had not enabled this situation to an absurd level, Rachel may have actually learned a vital life lesson and returned home and kept our family whole," the Cannings wrote. "Instead the Inglesino family has made a difficult situation horrible and broken apart a family."
yankee dandee
(12 posts)Her parents should sue the little brat for defamation and attempted extortion. There's probably more but I'm no attorney... maybe the kid's attorney should be disbarred for such a frivolous law suit!
VA_Jill
(9,995 posts)But there are two sides to every story, and I know everyone here is taking up for the parents. Some other things I read set a few wheels turning in my mind, though, so let me play a little devil's advocate. First off, the kid is an honor student and doesn't cut class and like that, so on the surface at least seems to be a well-behaved girl. She's also involved in school activities and sports. There is a complaint about a boyfriend who "may be a bad influence" but that's kind of nebulous. WHY is he thought to be a bad influence? That could be a smokescreen for "He's the wrong religion, the wrong color," or even maybe "He goes to the wrong school" (code for "he's not good enough" . I've also read comments from her that her parents pushed her to go to a different school where she might get more playing time on the basketball team, possibly leading to a scholarship, and that she felt some of their behaviors contributed to an eating disorder she had struggled with. So maybe they are a little bit overly controlling? Seems to me that everyone involved could benefit from family counseling and a mediator, but I don't think things got this bad one-sidedly. Just my opinion, of course, but I have seen this kind of thing play out before.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)She also got suspended from school. They wanted her to het back on track. She refused and then left. Then she sued them for 650 a week for her maintenance, wanted her college fund handed over to her and wanted them to pay for the second semester of private school at 5000 even though she had left their care and was a legal adult.
They did the right thing by not giving in to her. They have other children they may need to spend that nearly 3000 a month on and may need the money to augment the other childrens college funds. Why should all the household money be spent on the one adult person who no longer lives at home?
She needs counseling and treatment, not free rein to go through her college fund and her parents life savings.
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)drugs, alcohol and some incredibly disrespectful hateful stuff she said to the parents like "I want to take a shit all over your face I hate you so much". She also falsely accused her father of molesting her - none of it true.
The girl had the eating disorder before this all blew up and has stopped taking her meds and seeing the therapist - in other words making her issues a whole lot worse.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)with you. I think any father who gives their child alcohol and passes out in their room is suspect. That he is an ex-cop isn't surprising to me.
Of course, I stopped doing juvenile justice because of parents like this. Moved on to adults in trouble with the law.
VA_Jill
(9,995 posts)Could you direct me to it? I know there's a lot of "He said, she said" going on here, but we raised a pretty mouthy teen and I know that goes both ways .she said some nasty things to her dad, but he said just as nasty ones to her. (I stayed out of those, known that you have to pick your battles). Funny thing, ours turned out just fine. But when there's alcohol involved on either or both sides, there's going to be trouble.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)TorchTheWitch
(11,065 posts)The mother's and father's affidavits both talked of the parents of the child their daughter was staying with (and Rachel's attorneys) had given Rachel alcohol while underage in the past, not that they themselves had since it was this very drinking issue they had with her that they believe was part of her rebellious behavior.
http://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/1047333/rachel-canning.pdf
Mrs. Canning's affidavit begins on page 40
See #14-#16, starting on page 43 of Mrs. Canning's affidavit alluding to their disapproval of Rachel's drinking and refusing to shuttle her from drinking parties that her and her boyfriend attended. The redacted names refer to Rachel's boyfriend and his parents. It was this drinking behavior that began in excess that was the major reason whey they did not want her to continue seeing him.
See #19 starting on page 44 of Mrs. Cannings affidavit that explains how at a family dinner Rachel requested they allow her to have a drinking party at their home that both of the Cannings refused.
See #26 and #27 starting on page 45 of Mrs. Cannings affidavit further explaining drinking incidents that Rachel lied to them about and they clearly disapproved of.
See #41 through #44 starting on page 50 of Mrs. Cannings affidavit that describes Rachel's getting drunk at the Homecoming dance and in which the Cannings were investigated by child services whereby everything Rachel had claimed was deemed to be false.
See #48 and #49 starting on page 52 of Mrs. Cannings affidavit in which they describe Rachel's drinking behavior getting herself in trouble started with the boyfriend they disapproved of.
*See #54 starting on page 53 of Mrs. Cannings affidavit in which it is the Inglesio family that first gave alcohol to Rachel when she was only 15 years old as well as allowed underage drinking parties in their home that Rachel bragged to her parents about.
Better yet, read the whole thing. How you could possibly read that affidavit and somehow come to the conclusion that it was the Cannings themselves that gave Rachel alcohol is mind boggling. Clearly they disapproved of her drinking behavior and clearly tried to stop this behavior.
The degenerate shits here are the Inglesios who allowed Rachel to stay with them, had given Rachel alcohol when she was only 15 years old where Rachel had attended alcohol parties the Inglesios had for their own daughter and then decided it was a good idea to act as Rachel's counsel suing Rachel's parents instead of urging her to return home even after they found out that Rachel was a nasty lying piece of work that had been spoiled by her parents according to the lies Rachel told to child services that they investigated.
And you a lawyer. Jesus.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)diatribe against her daughter and other people. And it fails to address the incident when Rachel's father passed out in her room. it's pretty obvious that the mother is extremely upset over the fact that Rachel wanted to go live with her father during the separation.
If her daughter was such a screw up... Then why leave her in charge when she and her husband went off to Las Vegas???
And how does any mother not know that their teenage anorexic daughter has two trash bags full of vomit in their room?
Further, what kind of parents interrupt the schooling of a child who is obviously ill and in need of help and continued support??? Even if you think she's a horrible kid.... why take a child who has a verified eating disorder and interrupt her senior year????
Torch... I did juvenile justice for too long not to figure out exactly what's going on here.... that the father is an ex cop is absolutely no surprise. That there was a recent and apparently quite contentious separation is also no surprise. That the family has alcohol issues it's not a surprise. That New Jersey social services didn't really bother with a white suburban family is also not a surprise. These parents suck and they're taking advantage of being white and suburban to get away with the abuse and neglect they put on all three daughters.
TorchTheWitch
(11,065 posts)And a proven one given all the lies she told child services that were proven to be lies. That piece of shit lied about her father touching her inappropriately which is about the most scummy lie one can allege about their parent and when living in a home in which she was given everything she wanted. Child services only found that Rachel had been spoiled, and she was.
Sorry, but it's as obvious as can be that this spoiled little brat left home because she didn't want to follow her parents totally normal rules to stay with a friend's family that used her unethically in order to sue her parents. People that Rachel LIKED because they LET her drink along with their own daughter and do whatever the fuck else she wanted. And those shits will be sending Rachel the bill. Inglesio is a Christie minion and an unethical shit.
Too bad that you spent so much time in family law that there IS no case that you're capable of seeing in any other way than the parents being neglectful abusers. The fact that you still believe this girl's disgusting and outrageous lies about her parents that were investigated and proven to have been lies is your own problem, and it's a shame.
Piss on the ex-cop bullshit. I'm sick to death of DU being slathered in perpetual absurd cop hate. Maybe you should get out and get to know some cops as the actual people they are that are as diverse as any other people instead of falling into that rubbish mentality. Somehow I managed to survive over a decade of being a paralegal without ever being overwhelmed by inexplicable prejudices just because of the type of cases I worked. Perhaps you should do the same.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)off to Las Vegas??? If the kid was that bad a fuck up, then why was she left in charge and given cash?
Also, reading Rachel's certification...she didn't allege her father touched her. But the incident of her dad passing out in her room was absolutely inappropriate.
There is no doubt this kid has problems...so what kind of vindictive parent interrupts her senior year? A shitty one.
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)I would never have left that kid in charge of anyone personally. YMMV
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)I didn't read a certification from the therapist. I agree with you I wouldn't have left her in charge of a cat....
Which brings me back to the question I've been posing and no one seems to answer.... This seems to be a pretty troubled kid. What kind of vindictive asshole of a parent decides to disrupt her senior year??
Gormy Cuss
(30,884 posts)From what I've read it sounds like there was a complete breakdown of parent/child relationship and that's how it ended up in court.
That the daughter has returned home after court hearings suggests to me that there has been a third party mediation and they've all decided to try to mend the rift. At least, I hope that is what happened.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)Im still stuck on the 650 a week she tried to blackmail out of her parents.
question everything
(47,534 posts)Let the father of her friend who started this legal joke pay.
question everything
(47,534 posts)After enduring a media barrage that's lasted more than a week, Rachel Canning, the New Jersey teen whos suing her parents for financial support, returned home to her family on Tuesday night. But the very next day Canning's lawyer demonstrated that the case is far from over by returning to court, requesting that the parents pay for a guardian to be appointed for their 18-year-old high school student.
Just a few days ago, Rachel Canning indicated she could not go back home with her parents and she required a promise of some financial assistance going forward," attorney Tanya Helfand wrote in her application to the court, highlighting the teen's quick turnaround in deciding to return to her parents' after living at a friend's for several months. Now, after speaking with her mother yesterday, she said she is waiving her complaint and is receiving no promises or consideration in return.
She noted that if her client decides to dismiss the case, its important that she does so of her own free will and not because of outside pressures, and added, A psychologist certified that the parents are abusive. School faculty certified that the parents abuse the child. Helfand also asked that a gag order be placed on all parties regarding the case. But Family Division Judge Peter Bogaard in Morris County denied the request.
https://shine.yahoo.com/parenting/rachel-canning-goes-home-after-suing-her-parents--but-it-s-not-over-yet-192121112.html
sheesh...
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)Skittles
(153,193 posts)yes indeed