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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 12:14 PM Mar 2014

Poll: 64% Of Americans Say Obamacare Should Remain Law

Source: TPM

DYLAN SCOTT – MARCH 13, 2014, 12:08 PM EDT

A substantial majority of Americans believe Obamacare should remain law, either exactly as it is or with small changes, according to a new poll.

Bloomberg News found that a combined 64 percent of Americans said they support keeping the law in place. That includes 51 percent who said it should be kept but may need some small changes and 13 percent who said it should be left alone. Only 34 percent said it should be repealed.

Obamacare is also likely to weigh on people's minds when they vote this November: 52 percent said the law would be a major factor in their decision, and 20 percent said it would be a minor factor.

The Bloomberg poll didn't ask how it would affect people's votes. An NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll found that the law was currently a wash between the two parties for the 2014 elections. Bloomberg News surveyed 1,001 U.S. adults from March 7 to 10. The poll's margin of error is 3.1 percentage points.

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GOP Plots New Round Of Hostage-Taking To Stop Obamacare

SAHIL KAPUR – MARCH 13, 2014, 6:00 AM EDT

House Republicans expect to vote this Friday on legislation that would risk steep, destabilizing Medicare cuts at the end of the month unless Democrats agree to a five-year delay of Obamacare's individual mandate.

It mirrors some of the brinkmanship in the government shutdown fight last fall in that the GOP is using a must-pass bill as a vehicle to chop the Affordable Care Act. Democratic leaders have repeatedly rejected proposals to tinker with the mandate to buy insurance and have warned Republicans not to tie a physician payment fix to their partisan quest to unravel Obamacare.

"This is not credible, what they've done," said Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV).

The legislation would delay the penalty for noncompliance with the individual mandate until 2019. It suffered a blow on Wednesday when the Congressional Budget Office found that it would raise premiums and cause 13 million fewer people to be insured come 2018. It would save the federal government $170 billion and use the money to cover the $138 billion cost of replacing the Sustainable Growth Rate (SGR) formula, which calculates Medicare payments to physicians and will automatically impose a 24 percent pay on April 1 unless Congress acts.

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Poll: 64% Of Americans Say Obamacare Should Remain Law (Original Post) DonViejo Mar 2014 OP
This should silence the naysayers! Dem4ever27 Mar 2014 #1
First it needs to get reported. This was from Bloomberg. Not a MSM outlet, and I suspect if it is lostincalifornia Mar 2014 #6
The the GOP and Teabaggers think they know what is good for those 64% better than they do liberal N proud Mar 2014 #2
Even the recalcitrant idiots know it's settled law. jsr Mar 2014 #3
This is what we need to emphasize: the positive outlook question everything Mar 2014 #4
I vote YES! SoapBox Mar 2014 #5
Then there's me. Treant Mar 2014 #7
"How many of the 36% are like me and think that Obamacare shouldn't be law"? red dog 1 Mar 2014 #17
I don't NEED Obamacare. MADem Mar 2014 #19
Facts don't matter. The NY Times just ran a headline blaming Sink's loss on Obamacare. SunSeeker Mar 2014 #8
Not even Karl Rove is making that claim but, DonViejo Mar 2014 #9
This is great news but we need to sell the Affordable Care Act Gothmog Mar 2014 #10
Exactly. A candidate saying "I'll fix what's wrong with it" is NOT selling the ACA. SunSeeker Mar 2014 #11
If you want to get the attention of the people that like it, JoeyT Mar 2014 #12
Of course it can be improved. It could be single payer. SunSeeker Mar 2014 #13
The Affordable Care Act???? what's that? LiberalLovinLug Mar 2014 #23
democratic midterm candidates, for the love of god, please! MsPithy Mar 2014 #14
kr...nt MindMover Mar 2014 #15
I'm surprised hibbing Mar 2014 #16
K&R...Thanks for posting. red dog 1 Mar 2014 #18
GOP's worst nightmare-uninsured/poor Republicans LIKING Obamacare! ErikJ Mar 2014 #20
and the GOP is surprised why? azurnoir Mar 2014 #21
So good.. November here we come.. Cha Mar 2014 #22
 

Dem4ever27

(49 posts)
1. This should silence the naysayers!
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 12:24 PM
Mar 2014

Another great political victory for our President and the Democratic Party!

lostincalifornia

(3,639 posts)
6. First it needs to get reported. This was from Bloomberg. Not a MSM outlet, and I suspect if it is
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 01:01 PM
Mar 2014

mentioned else where it will be a very short blurb

liberal N proud

(60,334 posts)
2. The the GOP and Teabaggers think they know what is good for those 64% better than they do
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 12:28 PM
Mar 2014

The GOP's 50 or more attempts to repeal the ACA isn't about what is right, it is about what is white or rather what isn't.

Their hate is so strong that they would destroy everything to get revenge.

question everything

(47,479 posts)
4. This is what we need to emphasize: the positive outlook
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 12:51 PM
Mar 2014

Yes, there are too many angry teabaggers. But I believe that the voters often looks for hope and positive ideas.

I would like to think that the party of NO - with nothing positive to offer - will lose.

As long as we can capitalize on the positives that we offer.

I hope...

Treant

(1,968 posts)
7. Then there's me.
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 01:09 PM
Mar 2014

How many of the 36% are like me and think that Obamacare shouldn't be law...because we should have single payer.

However, I'm not motivated to revoke it as it's better than the "pay or die" state we were in before.

red dog 1

(27,797 posts)
17. "How many of the 36% are like me and think that Obamacare shouldn't be law"?
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 05:13 PM
Mar 2014

Like you, I think that "we should have single payer".
But does the ACA have to be repealed to make Obamacare a single payer health plan?

I'm one of the "51% who think it should be kept but may need some small changes"

Granted, making Obamacare into a single payer health plan is not a "small change";
it's a "big change"; but the ACA need not be repealed in order to make such a "big change"

IMO, If the American people were asked if they would like Obamacare to be changed into a single payer health plan, (like Canada, The UK, and all the northern European countries have now)
the American people would overwhelmingly support such a change.

Of course, the insurance companies would fight any such change, and the GOP would most likely side with them; but the fact remains that Obamacare COULD be changed to make it a single payer health plan.

The question is, would President Obama and Congressional Democrats even ATTEMPT such a move?

If they did, I'm convinced that the American people would support them.

If they did, and the GOP blocked them, then it would be clear to the American people that the President and Congressional Democrats wanted to make Obamacare better, but the Republicans did NOT want to make Obamacare better...all they wanted to do was to repeal it.
which is something that, according to this poll, only 34% of Americans want.



MADem

(135,425 posts)
19. I don't NEED Obamacare.
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 08:21 PM
Mar 2014

Lucky me, I have TRICARE.

That said, I think the nation NEEDS Obamacare...because the road to single payer is through it.

We can't get to single payer without running Obamacare through its paces.

Anyone who doesn't see that doesn't understand how this country does things.

We had to fart around with DADT before the ban on gays in the military was lifted.

We can never go straight to the right thing--it's not in our nature, because we have these people known as "Republicans" who live here with us, and they are slow on the uptake.

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
8. Facts don't matter. The NY Times just ran a headline blaming Sink's loss on Obamacare.
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 01:20 PM
Mar 2014
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/03/13/us/health-law-tied-to-gop-victory-in-florida-race.html?from=homepage

Health Law Tied to G.O.P. Victory in Florida Race




And the thing is, if you read the story, you'll see that the headline is not supported by what was reported from the district. But who goes past the headline these days? Thanks, "liberal media."

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
9. Not even Karl Rove is making that claim but,
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 01:24 PM
Mar 2014

count on the NYT to do so...

Rove Cautions Republicans: No, The Florida Special Election Wasn't All About Obamacare

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024656242

Gothmog

(145,216 posts)
10. This is great news but we need to sell the Affordable Care Act
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 01:35 PM
Mar 2014

The Affordable Care Act is making a difference. My middle child turned 26 and I was not able to get her a policy due to pre-existing conditions. Now she is insured and is having no problems.

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
11. Exactly. A candidate saying "I'll fix what's wrong with it" is NOT selling the ACA.
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 02:07 PM
Mar 2014

Not only does that wrongly concede that the ACA is so bad it needs immediate legislative action, but it is stupid and insults voters' intelligence. Everyone knows that NO constructive fixes to the ACA will ever get through a GOP majority House. You'd just be opening the Act up to all kinds of poison pill amendments by the GOP. The ACA is what it is. And what it is is a lifesaver for Americans. Learn it, live it, love it.

JoeyT

(6,785 posts)
12. If you want to get the attention of the people that like it,
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 02:36 PM
Mar 2014

but think there's stuff wrong with it, "I'll fix what's wrong with it" isn't what you say. "I think we should improve it" is.

There's absolutely nothing that can't be improved. Even if you have a solid gold car that gets a thousand miles to the gallon it can be improved by the addition of a chocolate dispenser.

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
13. Of course it can be improved. It could be single payer.
Thu Mar 13, 2014, 03:17 PM
Mar 2014

But with a GOP House majority, that will never happen. They only want to destroy it. Only executive orders are an option at this point. And only the President can do that, not member of Congress. So why should someone running for office now waste their breath talking about what needs to be improved. Talk about what's GOOD in the ACA.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,173 posts)
23. The Affordable Care Act???? what's that?
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 02:49 PM
Mar 2014

Am I the only one that thinks its rather stupid for Democrats to accept the branding that the Republicans donned the ACA with?...Obamacare?

I understand the thinking. Maybe its another of the "only in America" with its wild west standoff traditions. ie..you want to try and besmirch our health bill by making it all about the black man in the white house? Ok...we will one up you and embrace it and one day you will rue the day you pushed that branding because everyone will love it and you'll be scrambling to erase Obama's name from it.

All that did was solidify the message and make it easier for places like FAUX News to coninue to prop up the meme for the next 10 years that it was brought down by that ruthless socialist Muslim dictator that somehow sneaked into the White House. Any hiccups will be all his and by extension the Democrats, fault.

Right from the start they should have corrected all news hosts by either saying it is the Affordable Care Act, not "Obamacare". That many hardworking legislators worked on it. That much of it was taken from the Heritage Foundation and other Conservative plans from the past.

If the ACA is not catchy enough then I proposed already that it should have been called "Americare" from the start by Democrats. If the GOP wanted to still call it Obamacare that's their prerogative.

MsPithy

(809 posts)
14. democratic midterm candidates, for the love of god, please!
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 02:19 PM
Mar 2014

ATTACK! ATTACK! ATTACK!

Everything the republicans say about Obamacare is a lie. Every ad the Kochs run with ejits whining about how horrible Obamacare is, is a lie! Follow Julia Boonstra around with a camera and keep asking why she hates getting better coverage for less money!

There are thousands of Americans who would be dead, or bankrupt, without Obamacare. Run on the law that allows 45,000 Americans access to life-saving health care every year, ...that's fifteen Sept. elevens, every fucking year!

And, don't get me started on republicans who call themselves christians, refusing to expand Medicaid. ATTACK them! They want to let the poor die! How many times did jesus talk about helping the poor? If that isn't enough, remind the taxpayers that their money is going to some other state. Their rural hospitals are closing due to uncompensated care that the expanded Medicaid would pay for.

Only 34 percent of Americans want Obamacare repealed, and frankly, no democrat would ever get any of those votes, anyway. It is way passed time to go full force for Obamacare!



hibbing

(10,098 posts)
16. I'm surprised
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 04:15 PM
Mar 2014

I'm quite surprised considering the constant slamming of the whole thing by the corporate media. Especially all the fake stories about people having to pay more and whatever other lies have been promoted.

Peace

red dog 1

(27,797 posts)
18. K&R...Thanks for posting.
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 07:30 PM
Mar 2014

President Obama and the Democratic Leaders in Congress would do well to note that in this poll,
a MAJORITY of respondents (51%) say that Obamacare needs changes.

President Obama & the Democrats in Congress should also note that, according to this poll,
"Obamacare is also likely to weigh on people's minds this November:.52% said the law would be a major factor in their decision, and 20% said it would be a minor factor."

That's 72 percent saying that Obamacare would be a factor in their decision come November!

It seems to me that since 51 percent of respondents to this poll want CHANGES to the ACA,
why not go for broke and try to give America the quality of health care that most of the Western countries already have?....Universal Health Care!

And if the GOP successfully blocks any attempt by Obama & the Democrats to change Obamacare into Universal Health Care, then the Democrats will be able to say to the American voters:
"See, we tried to make changes to improve Obamacare; but the Republicans refused to go along with us.
They didn't want to change the law to make it better; all they wanted to do was to repeal it, and leave 45 million Americans without any health care plan at all."

If President Obama and the Democrats in Congress did this, the American voters would know which political party is for what THEY want, (Democrats)
and which political party is for what the big insurance companies want.(Republicans)

IMO, sitting back and doing nothing to make Obamacare a better health plan will mean disaster for Democrats come November.




 

ErikJ

(6,335 posts)
20. GOP's worst nightmare-uninsured/poor Republicans LIKING Obamacare!
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 12:38 AM
Mar 2014

Especially the poorer/ uninsured ones. When they lose all those millions of votes THEY ARE GONERS!

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
21. and the GOP is surprised why?
Sat Mar 15, 2014, 02:45 AM
Mar 2014

as I've said before whatever it's faults the no pre-existing conditions clause is enough right there to make it worth while

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