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Redfairen

(1,276 posts)
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 10:41 AM Mar 2014

Kenya legalises polygamy without wife's consent

Source: Agence France Presse

Kenya's parliament has passed a bill allowing men to marry as many women as they want, prompting a furious backlash from female lawmakers who stormed out, reports said Friday.

The bill, which amended existing marriage legislation, was passed late on Thursday to formalise customary law about marrying more than one person.

The proposed bill had initially given a wife the right to veto the husband's choice, but male members of parliament overcame party divisions to push through a text that dropped this clause.

"When you marry an African woman, she must know the second one is on the way, and a third wife... this is Africa," MP Junet Mohammed told the house, according to Nairobi's Capital FM.


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Kenya legalises polygamy without wife's consent (Original Post) Redfairen Mar 2014 OP
This is sickening! This patriarchal society is regressive. These males need to be SHAMED Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #1
Why can't a man have more than one wife? Jesus Malverde Mar 2014 #31
well your post explains most of your other posts CreekDog Mar 2014 #33
Ok Jesus Malverde Mar 2014 #34
the wife should have veto power Niceguy1 Mar 2014 #2
you forgot the :sarcasm: tag CreekDog Mar 2014 #8
some asian cultures Niceguy1 Mar 2014 #17
So do some white people KamaAina Mar 2014 #19
Chattel don't get to vote. n/t Gormy Cuss Mar 2014 #10
Exactly. ChairmanAgnostic Mar 2014 #13
Good point. ancianita Mar 2014 #23
Do those men want to take the risk of going to sleep? LiberalFighter Mar 2014 #3
Kenya is a nation with 82.5% Christians. This is a Christian law. Bluenorthwest Mar 2014 #4
As a Roman may have said, 'post hoc ergo prompter hoc...' LanternWaste Mar 2014 #11
Thanks. I had not thought that the case. Ratty Mar 2014 #14
This case appears to be Muslim seveneyes Mar 2014 #18
But even in traditional Islam, a man is only allowed four wives KamaAina Mar 2014 #20
Not cast in stone, that. MADem Mar 2014 #24
But but but what happened to the Christian avebury Mar 2014 #28
Who will be the first bagger to introduce this in Congress? catbyte Mar 2014 #5
I think maybe the whole world is going religious crazy CanonRay Mar 2014 #6
Sure makes you wonder what triggered it all. FiveGoodMen Mar 2014 #15
... "Any time a man comes home with a woman, that would be assumed to be a second or third wife ... struggle4progress Mar 2014 #7
Oooh lala .. How much is a plane ticket to Kenya? cosmicone Mar 2014 #9
I find it presumptuous cvoogt Mar 2014 #12
Hmmmm CFLDem Mar 2014 #16
can the women have as many husbands as they want? Skittles Mar 2014 #21
I doubt the men would vote for polyandry, with is what multiple hubbies is called. Nika Mar 2014 #27
It's more patriarchal frenzy. Call it religion, culture, whatever, but it's not TIA. Fuck Kenya. ancianita Mar 2014 #22
You sure it isn't Kansas? Kild the Radio Star Mar 2014 #25
I've always wondered why any man would want more than one wife. NaturalHigh Mar 2014 #26
now take my wife............................................................................please dembotoz Mar 2014 #29
If two consenting adults want to get married, why is it anyone else's business? hughee99 Mar 2014 #30
Two? Red Mountain Mar 2014 #32
One of my ancestors was a mail order bride to Salt Lake City. hunter Mar 2014 #35

Sarah Ibarruri

(21,043 posts)
1. This is sickening! This patriarchal society is regressive. These males need to be SHAMED
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 10:49 AM
Mar 2014

I cannot believe this was done.

Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
31. Why can't a man have more than one wife?
Sun Mar 23, 2014, 07:17 PM
Mar 2014

I'm not sure I get the objection. I manages multiple concurrent relationships and I'm curious to what the problem is with people having multiple partners married or otherwise.

Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
34. Ok
Sun Mar 23, 2014, 11:22 PM
Mar 2014

and....Consenting adults are just that.

Whats wrong with a someone being involved in more than one relationship at once

People have mistresses, affairs, open, concurrent relationships and some people even cruise strangers... whats the problem? Did I fail your purity test?

Niceguy1

(2,467 posts)
2. the wife should have veto power
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 11:04 AM
Mar 2014

As it is important that they get along..... the drama that develops if they dont get can run a man down.

Niceguy1

(2,467 posts)
17. some asian cultures
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 06:45 PM
Mar 2014

Still practice it here in the US.. it provides for some interesting family dynamics.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
4. Kenya is a nation with 82.5% Christians. This is a Christian law.
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 11:24 AM
Mar 2014

And folks thought it was 'just the gays'.....

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
11. As a Roman may have said, 'post hoc ergo prompter hoc...'
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 01:09 PM
Mar 2014

As a Roman may have said, 'post hoc ergo prompter hoc...'

Ratty

(2,100 posts)
14. Thanks. I had not thought that the case.
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 02:17 PM
Mar 2014

I thought it must be a largely Muslim country. That's what I get for jumping to conclusions.

 

seveneyes

(4,631 posts)
18. This case appears to be Muslim
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 06:54 PM
Mar 2014

Parliamentary majority leader Aden Duale, a Muslim, said that men marrying more than one woman was part of the Islamic faith, but also highlighted Biblical stories to justify Christians not asking their wife before taking another.

"I want my Christian brothers to read the Old Testament -- King David and King Solomon never consulted anybody to marry a second wife," Duale told the house.

Women are not allowed to marry more than one man in Kenya.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
24. Not cast in stone, that.
Sat Mar 22, 2014, 03:13 PM
Mar 2014

Four is a number that the "average man" can afford. A very wealthy feller can conceivably afford many more. Ibn Saud, the first ruler of what we know as Saudi Arabia, had close to two dozen wives (maybe more).

There's also the whole "concubine" system, and the "temporary marriage" system (which is, basically, formalized, contracted prostitution, if you ask me). In a temporary marriage, the man contracts with the woman for a cash payment(s) for her to act in a 'spousal capacity' for a period of time, weeks, a few months, even a year-- and when the time is up, the contract is over.

avebury

(10,952 posts)
28. But but but what happened to the Christian
Sat Mar 22, 2014, 03:40 PM
Mar 2014

notion that marriage is supposed to be between one man and one woman?

CanonRay

(14,101 posts)
6. I think maybe the whole world is going religious crazy
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 12:23 PM
Mar 2014

The anti-gay bills in Uganda and Russia, this crap, all the anti-abortion laws in our own country. The Taliban are taking over.

struggle4progress

(118,282 posts)
7. ... "Any time a man comes home with a woman, that would be assumed to be a second or third wife ...
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 12:26 PM
Mar 2014

Under customary law, women or wives you have married do not need to be told when you're coming home with a second or third wife. Any lady you bring home is your wife" ...

Kenya's parliament passes bill allowing polygamy
Bill that permits men to marry more than one person without wife's consent prompts furious backlash
Agence France-Presse in Nairobi
Friday 21 March 2014 10.37 EDT


 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
9. Oooh lala .. How much is a plane ticket to Kenya?
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 12:39 PM
Mar 2014

Just kidding

One can not dare to fall asleep in the house of a hurt and angry woman ... legal or not. This law is going to shame Kenya and will be reversed. No country likes to be the butt of jokes.

cvoogt

(949 posts)
12. I find it presumptuous
Fri Mar 21, 2014, 01:57 PM
Mar 2014

of Kenyan legislators to speak for all of Africa. They may be a leading nation, but laws like this will see to it that they become a laughing stock. Africa is progressing in spite of these lawmakers' efforts.

Nika

(546 posts)
27. I doubt the men would vote for polyandry, with is what multiple hubbies is called.
Sat Mar 22, 2014, 03:31 PM
Mar 2014

This is a bad law.

ancianita

(36,053 posts)
22. It's more patriarchal frenzy. Call it religion, culture, whatever, but it's not TIA. Fuck Kenya.
Sat Mar 22, 2014, 02:23 AM
Mar 2014

Rights aren't "given." That's why they're "rights." Women in Africa will decide their own rights.

They can institutionalize domination by any other name and it's still men not wanting to limit their promiscuity and vicious disloyalty, only women's. After all, someone's got to be the responsible adult and raise the offspring! And someone's got to go out and procure the wealth!

NaturalHigh

(12,778 posts)
26. I've always wondered why any man would want more than one wife.
Sat Mar 22, 2014, 03:30 PM
Mar 2014

The whole Big Love thing just seems too stressful to me.

dembotoz

(16,802 posts)
29. now take my wife............................................................................please
Sun Mar 23, 2014, 10:28 AM
Mar 2014

always a great line

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
30. If two consenting adults want to get married, why is it anyone else's business?
Sun Mar 23, 2014, 06:55 PM
Mar 2014

Wait, I guess now isn't the time for that.

Red Mountain

(1,732 posts)
32. Two?
Sun Mar 23, 2014, 07:50 PM
Mar 2014

It might be the third, forth, fifth, etc adults who aren't giving consent that cause the problem.

hunter

(38,311 posts)
35. One of my ancestors was a mail order bride to Salt Lake City.
Mon Mar 24, 2014, 11:14 AM
Mar 2014

She didn't like sharing a husband so she ran off with a U.S. government surveyor.

My family is a matriarchy on all sides, including my generation. Our men marry strong women and I sometimes wonder how long it's been that way.

Our U.S. society is not really so far away from Kenya's. The patriarchy and subordination of women is still strong here in the U.S.A. including involuntary polygamy in some places, legally sanctioned or not.

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