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Seedersandleechers

(3,044 posts)
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 02:50 PM Apr 2014

Swedes to give six-hour workday a go

Source: thelocal.se

"We think it's time to give this a real shot in Sweden," Mats Pilhem, Left Party deputy mayor of Gothenburg, told The Local.

He explained that the municipal council would use two different departments - a test group and a control group, in essence. Staff in one section will cut down to six-hour days, while their colleagues in a different section stick to the ordinary seven-hour day. All employees will be given the same pay.

"We'll compare the two afterwards and see how they differ. We hope to get the staff members taking fewer sick days and feeling better mentally and physically after they've worked shorter days," he said.

Pilhelm said he hoped the move would create more jobs, as he had seen evidence that longer shifts entailed less efficiency. In some sectors, such as elderly care, the problem was not staff shortages, he claimed, but people working inefficiently over longer shifts.


Read more: http://www.thelocal.se/20140408/swedish-workers-to-test-six-hour-work-days



7 hour work day is the norm.
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Swedes to give six-hour workday a go (Original Post) Seedersandleechers Apr 2014 OP
Leave it to the progressive Swedes geretogo Apr 2014 #1
Helloooo America!!! newfie11 Apr 2014 #2
"Pilhelm said he hoped the move would create more jobs." KansDem Apr 2014 #3
trickle down, is that the program where your family income trickles down to nothing while ... olddad56 Apr 2014 #8
+1000 nt abelenkpe Apr 2014 #11
I would love to work at a game company in Sweden! Phlem Apr 2014 #4
Freelance game making is where it's at. tridim Apr 2014 #5
Can you name me some of the great games that've come out of Sweden? woolldog Apr 2014 #20
I'm working, right now, with a Swedish programmer in the US.. Phlem Apr 2014 #21
Paradox is Swedish cemaphonic Apr 2014 #22
Yes Phlem Apr 2014 #23
Could you imagine the field day the corporate fascists would have if we tried that here? Populist_Prole Apr 2014 #6
too bad for the US congress richdj25 Apr 2014 #7
Don't they have Wal-Mart in Sweden? tclambert Apr 2014 #9
If the republicans take over for any extended period, Kingofalldems Apr 2014 #10
I believe they already proposed the overtime thingie. Enthusiast Apr 2014 #12
Oh yes,they've been pushing that comp time trick for years. Kingofalldems Apr 2014 #13
It's a 'heads I win, tails you lose" scam for sure Populist_Prole Apr 2014 #14
I work 12 Skittles Apr 2014 #15
Ouch CFLDem Apr 2014 #18
try nights Skittles Apr 2014 #19
I still feel ya. CFLDem Apr 2014 #24
OK Skittles Apr 2014 #25
I see how it is. :) CFLDem Apr 2014 #26
they are way, way ahead of us... Blue_Tires Apr 2014 #16
Democrats could help by proposing the new workplace BrotherIvan Apr 2014 #17
good post n/t Psephos Apr 2014 #29
wow. that's a short day Liberal_in_LA Apr 2014 #27
In a competitive market, the cost of "6 for 8" would have to come out of profits. Jaime Bueno Apr 2014 #28

newfie11

(8,159 posts)
2. Helloooo America!!!
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 03:31 PM
Apr 2014

Of course we can't do that! It would be considered socialist by the idiots in congress that work 3 days a month or so.

olddad56

(5,732 posts)
8. trickle down, is that the program where your family income trickles down to nothing while ...
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 04:17 PM
Apr 2014

the 1%ers get even wealthier. I think we have tried that way to long.

Phlem

(6,323 posts)
4. I would love to work at a game company in Sweden!
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 03:54 PM
Apr 2014

Game companies are notorious for white collar slavery. It's a common thing to work 60 hour weeks and if you don't your frowned upon, says the burnt out 3d artist. All for that glorious 40 hour per week paycheck and a credit in the game. What's that you say, the company surely shares the profits when they have big blockbusters, *sigh*, no.

I love what I do, I hate the companies that I work for.



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tridim

(45,358 posts)
5. Freelance game making is where it's at.
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 04:04 PM
Apr 2014

Of course it doesn't pay anything until the end, but at least you get to keep the profits!

 

woolldog

(8,791 posts)
20. Can you name me some of the great games that've come out of Sweden?
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 10:55 PM
Apr 2014

I didn't think so. Maybe thats why all the best, most popular games come from the ole US of A

Phlem

(6,323 posts)
21. I'm working, right now, with a Swedish programmer in the US..
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 11:16 PM
Apr 2014

Last edited Wed Apr 9, 2014, 12:08 AM - Edit history (1)

To put out an independent game. We keep the cash we make, not some CEO. FFS.

I hear the GOP need a few good men.

your ignorance is showing!

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cemaphonic

(4,138 posts)
22. Paradox is Swedish
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 11:56 PM
Apr 2014

The Europa Universalis and Crusader Kings series are the big ones, but they've put out dozens of games, and act as publishers for lots of smaller studios.

Lots of Canadian studios too, centered in Vancouver, Toronto and Montreal.

Phlem

(6,323 posts)
23. Yes
Wed Apr 9, 2014, 12:02 AM
Apr 2014

They treat their staff much better than their US counterparts. The ads between the 2 countries for staffing are like night and day.

USA, USA, USA, we know how to hit the bottom line!



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Populist_Prole

(5,364 posts)
6. Could you imagine the field day the corporate fascists would have if we tried that here?
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 04:07 PM
Apr 2014

They would never act in good faith here like in Sweden. Any jobs created would be deemed superfluous as the plutocrats here would use any efficiency savings as just another way of getting more done with the same staffing, or even getting more from less.

Our system is rotten to the core.

tclambert

(11,085 posts)
9. Don't they have Wal-Mart in Sweden?
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 04:34 PM
Apr 2014

Surely Wal-Mart would not stand for such limitations on their ability to abuse manage their workforce.

Populist_Prole

(5,364 posts)
14. It's a 'heads I win, tails you lose" scam for sure
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 05:29 PM
Apr 2014

They'll give you comp time they'll never let you actually take off due to "needs of service".

 

CFLDem

(2,083 posts)
18. Ouch
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 09:50 PM
Apr 2014

I used to do 12 hour days for almost a year so I get where you're coming from. Just focus in that sweet, sweet overtime!

 

CFLDem

(2,083 posts)
24. I still feel ya.
Wed Apr 9, 2014, 05:45 AM
Apr 2014

Overnights in a warehouse loading 5000+ boxes by hand for minimum wage. No AC in the summer and the winter so cold the boxes stick to the ground.

All followed by a lovely hour and a half drive back home. During winter driving through the ghetto wasn't so bad because at least the streets were more plowed than the forest preserve.

And I still had to get up for school.

Glad those days are over. Just keep looking for the next job and it will fall in your lap sooner than you expect.

 

CFLDem

(2,083 posts)
26. I see how it is. :)
Wed Apr 9, 2014, 08:58 AM
Apr 2014

Try being mortared in the desert several times per day for months on end while being on conference calls with suits who have no idea what you actually need to get the job done.








BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
17. Democrats could help by proposing the new workplace
Tue Apr 8, 2014, 07:25 PM
Apr 2014

Telecommuting should have taken off over thirty years ago. Want to save gas, electricity, overhead? Let your employees work from home. Yahoo took that away and there was a huge uproar. I work twice as hard from home than in the office. Why? Because I can schedule my life into my day, so I'll often be working later at night. If I'm efficient and get my stuff done, my time is my own. Plus, I appreciate the control of my schedule so I work hard not to muck it up. I have never ever been late for a deadline, and I never make excuses. All of my coworkers are the same.

When I worked in the office, I probably was productive 3 full hours of that day. I can't work strapped to a desk intensively for 10 hours straight and I doubt anyone can. There is so much time wasting to run out the clock.

For my employees, we discuss what needs to get done and then they do it. I find that good employees, when you trust and empower them, do a much better than anticipated job. Most managers who can't stand people working off site have authoritarian hangups or don't have anything to do to justify their paychecks other than looking over people's shoulders. A company could save a ton of money by streamlining its management but they hardly ever do.

Anyway, I wish the Swedes good luck but it will never happen here. The Reagan era sapped workers of any pride or say so and keeping unemployment high means management can do whatever they wish. This is not a good country for anyone but the wealthy.

 

Jaime Bueno

(12 posts)
28. In a competitive market, the cost of "6 for 8" would have to come out of profits.
Wed Apr 9, 2014, 08:25 PM
Apr 2014

It wouldn't be "passed along" to the consumer.

But Sweden does not have a competitive market. It has monopoly capitalism, and so does the US.

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