NATO 3 get prison terms 5 to 8 years.

[Peregrine Took]

Source: Chicago Tribune

Defense attorney Tom Durkin says he's never been so embarrassed to be from Chicago considering the case the prosecution presented.
Durkin said their case was politically motivated to save Rahm's reputation for spending 29 million dollars turning downtown into an armed camp for what turned out to be a peaceful march.

Read more: http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-sentencing-today-for-nato-3-prosecutors-seeking-14year-terms-20140425,0,2578418.story

[former9thward]

1. Disgusting...

Three people have to give up at least a half a decade of their lives to appease because they offended Rahm with a peaceful protest.

[OKNancy]

2. they don't sound very peaceful to me

[neffernin]

3. They were planning on warming the hearts of others with those molotov cocktails

Or maybe reply #1 wasn't well informed...

[former9thward]

4. I lived in Chicago for 30 years.

I am very informed about Chicago 'justice' and frame-ups. Glad to see we have some Rahmites on board.

[neffernin]

6. Sigh

I've lived in America for 30 years and I'm very informed about government cover ups and conspiracies. Not too glad we have American jihadists on these forums.

See what I did there? Made a useless strawman argument and associated you to a group using generalization.

I don't know if justice was served here, but even these guys themselves have admitted to being less than peaceful and making mistakes along the way.

Entrapment is inherently dishonest and overly common by our government but then again planning on fire bombing people isn't exactly something that shouldn't be discouraged and can hardly be considered peaceful.

[Major Nikon]

7. Jared Chase, on video, buying gasoline later poured into beer bottles

Jurors this morning were also shown footage from security cameras at the nearby BP gas station where Chase walked with one of the undercover officers to buy less than a gallon of gas for $3.75, paying in cash.

The videos show Chase walking to the station across the street from the Deering District police station on May 16, 2012, with the undercover police officer and then setting a plastic red gas can near one of the pumps.

[former9thward]

11. And what did these evil terrorists do with it?

I'm sure you will give us more of the prosecution frame up story.

[Major Nikon]

12. So you think the cops should have waited for them to set someone on fire?

So how does the frame up happen in this video?

Perhaps he was hypotized by the cops into buying the gas?

Was there a cop standing out of the frame with a sniper rifle aimed at his head?

Their defense was basically they were too fucking stupid to pull it off, which means they were certainly stupid enough to do it. Even if you can say the cops talked them into it, that means anyone else with bad intent could have also. As far as I'm concerned they are exactly where they belong. They had a competent defense and they were convicted by a jury of their peers. Whining about it doesn't help their case much.

[former9thward]

13. No one even alleged that "someone was going to be set on fire."

That is a flat out lie. What other "evidence" are you going to make up?

[Major Nikon]

14. So what was the gasoline for?

Oh yeah, he was going to mow his mom's lawn.



They were caught with the Molotov cocktails, FFS.

[former9thward]

15. The police asked them to bomb an empty bank building.

The police also wanted them to bomb the outside of a brick Chicago police station. The police asked them to throw an arrow at Rahm Emanuel’s home and they wanted them to throw rocks and break windows at President Barack Obama’s campaign headquarters.

Despite police attempting to get them to do these things they did none of them.

This is the same police department which murdered Fred Hampton and Mark Clark in their bed while they were drugged and sleeping. They have not changed a bit.

But I am sure they are your BFF.

[Major Nikon]

16. You didn't answer the question

What was the gasoline for?

If you don't want to answer the question, fine. Just say so. Ignoring the question says just as much as your empty rhetoric about completely unrelated subjects.

They were convicted for possessing an incendiary device which they purchased the gasoline for, filled up beer bottles with, and stuffed strips of bandana into which not even their lawyer disputes. If you want to pretend they were peace loving protesters, more power to you.

[former9thward]

20. The police wanted them to throw a Molotov cocktail into an empty Chase Bank building.

That is what the gas was for and I did answer the question. Despite the attempts of the police provocateurs to get them to do this they did not. This was a complete police set up and frame up. Have fun with your BFF.

[Major Nikon]

21. They weren't convicted of throwing a Molotov cocktail into an empy Chase Bank building

They were convicted of possession of an incendiary bomb which they were in possession and created.

Case Closed Guilty as Sin, Period.

It's not that complicated. I promise.

Have fun with your wannabe terrorist meth-head BFFs. You can even be their pen pal if you want. I'm sure they'll write you back. It's not as if they will have much else to do for the next few years.

[former9thward]

22. "It's not as if they will have much else to do for the next few years."

The first one is due to be released in six months. I guess you don't know the Illinois prison system. Go cry in your beer.

[Major Nikon]

23. They have already been in jail for 2 years

Even at half time and time served, Jared Chase will still be in jail for at least more 2 years and all of them will be wearing a fashionable ankle bracelet for 2 more years.

You seem to be the one crying about it. I could care less what happens to your meth-head heroes. The sooner they get out of jail the sooner they will tweak themselves into oblivion anyway.

[former9thward]

24. I sure that is what the British said about the colonial revolutionaries.

Well maybe not the juvenile meth head slur but something equivalent. And you Authoritarians will end up the same as the British.

[Major Nikon]

25. So because I believe a pack of meth heads who built bombs are guilty of possessing bombs...

for which they were convicted and sentenced.

...

I'm just exactly like the British oppressing colonists over 200 years ago.

Brilliant!

This is easily the funniest non sequitur I've read in quite some time and you should be commended for it.

Yep, a meth addicted wanna-be gang affiliated rapper who made 4 incendiary bombs is just exactly like John Adams dumping tea into Boston harbor.

You can't make shit up this funny.

[2pooped2pop]

28. yep, I was there and I know you are right.

Fuck the idiots who fall for the propaganda fed to them. Not saying these guys weren't fools but without the police involvement, nothing would have happened.

After all this time and all the money spent, filling 4 bottles with gas was all they got? How fucking pathetic is that?

[2pooped2pop]

30. the gas that the police walked them over to buy?

bet he paid for it too, or gave them the money. Yeah they were stupid but there were no Molotov cocktails without the police.

[Ash_F]

17. I think the point here is entrapment

This trio might not be swell folks, but police should not spend so much time and resources into finding the dumbest people they can and spending months trying to manipulate them into committing a crime.

Most of the time they fail to do so. Often the undercover cop themselves get reported on. Meanwhile, people who commit attacks like the Boston bombing, do them just fine without any goading. They slip under the the radar, after being reported on by friends and relatives, because police forces are too occupied with these hair-brained schemes.

It is a huge, ineffective, waste of energy and our tax dollars. It is not just ineffective, but damaging because it takes officers' time away from productive policing.

[Major Nikon]

18. The defense failed to show entrapment

If these guys had a drunk for a lawyer and were truly innocent, then there might be something to this, but they had a very competent attorney with many years experience in the courtroom defending criminal cases. These guys bragged about going to Chicago and committing mayhem. Nobody forced or compelled them to make fire bombs. Whether they would have used them or not is irrelevant. Simply possessing them is a crime and if these dipshits had actually used them and killed someone when clearly they had the motive and opportunity, the same people who are damning the authorities for arresting and prosecuting them would be damning the authorities for doing nothing to stop them.

[Ash_F]

19. Not really. In the end they were only convicted of "mob action"

The prosecution was going for much more severe terrorism charges. They will be out in as early as six months.

This after 3 months of manipulation by the cops

"It seemed as if she was trying to get us in the whole 'fuck the police' mentality, but she was barking up the wrong tree," noted Pillsbury. "We didn't even do anything violent to be in jail in the first place; we just stood our ground across the street from Woodlawn in an act of nonviolent civil disobedience."

Such a waste of tax dollars.

Read more here:

http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/17107-revealed-the-story-behind-the-nato-3-domestic-terrorism-arrests

Fun fact: I had this exact same toy as a child. Mom bought it for me at a flee market:

[The Magistrate]

26. While I Think The Sentence Excessive, Major

This carries a good deal of weight:

'Their defense was basically they were too fucking stupid to pull it off, which means they were certainly stupid enough to do it.'

[Major Nikon]

27. That's a fair point really

If you compare the sentence they received to others committing similar offenses, they may have received more time (which may have to do with the fact that they didn't accept a plea).

However, the idea that these guys were innocent when one of them is on video buying the gasoline seems a bit asinine.

[former9thward]

5. They were acquitted of terrorism.

Maybe you missed that or just don't care. Throw 'em in prison for speaking out! We can't have that!

[Comrade Grumpy]

8. The prosecutors argued they deserved more time because they didn't plead guilty.

They were not convicted of anything other than possessing incendiary devices. Shit, I made those when I was a teenager.

They let themselves get egged on into big talk by undercover cops.

This smells just like almost all of the terrorism busts since 9/11. The cops/FBI seek out some big talkers and entice them into doing something stupid, even supply them with the means, then bust them and boast how they saved us again.

And they deserved more time because they didn't plead guilty. Justice and the US criminal justice system are not necessarily congruent.

[rhett o rick]

9. Yes. thanks. nm

[Joe Shlabotnik]

10. +1

Framed up, and being made an example of, to ward off any other youth who watch YouTube and see how protests are done in Europe.

[2pooped2pop]

29. yep n/t