George Hincapie: Lance Armstrong not to blame for Cycling's dope culture
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Source: Examiner
Lance Armstrong said he is still a seven-time Tour de France winner despite being stripped of his titles for doping because the cyclists he had competed against also cheated, AFP reported.
"Yes, I feel that I won the races," said Armstrong. "I know that is not a popular answer, but the reality is, it was just a messy time. It was basically an arms race, and we all played ball that way."
Read more: http://www.examiner.com/article/lance-armstrong-says-he-is-still-a-seven-time-tour-de-france-winner
To everyone who dissed lance please learn something about this sport. Hincapie is one of the most respected cyclists around. This was a witch hunt by the anti doping agency. EVERYONE DID IT.
Learn something about the sport before you criticize about it.
ret5hd
(20,563 posts)frazzled
(18,402 posts)"Everybody did it" is a lame excuse. I'm not saying Armstrong wasn't a great cyclist. But he was also a liar, a cheat, and (according to teammates) a bully.
Sports should be free of doping. Then everyone can compete on an even level, using their natural talents and hard work, and we'll still have a winner. The faster times are for making money, not for athletic prowess.
Paulie
(8,462 posts)Some are bigger cheating lying scumbags than others.
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)Skittles
(153,275 posts)"everyone did it" does not relieve Mr. Armstrong of responsibility; it makes them ALL cheating scum
geomon666
(7,512 posts)He's still a cheater though.
Mika
(17,751 posts)No, I'm not a cycling hater. I'm a road cyclist.
aint_no_life_nowhere
(21,925 posts)If he was this great man of character as he was supposed to be, he would have come out and admitted it before being stripped and charged the entire sport with doping, for the good of the sport. Once you start doping and trying to dodge tests, you are throwing a monkey wrench into the works. There's no way to know if everyone is doping or doping to the same extent. There's no way to know if it's a level playing field. Lance Armstrong was just a selfish individual like everyone else; not the great hero.
groundloop
(11,530 posts)If society accepted the 'everyone did it' excuse there's a hell of a lot of bad out there that we'd let slide. Nope, I'm not buying that lame excuse.
wilt the stilt
(4,528 posts)for Tommie Smith who died from speed. It's the culture. If you competed at the highest level and everyone was doing it "you wouldn't"? give me a break.
Democracyinkind
(4,015 posts)2. He's to blame to have taken doping to a whole new level, thereby intensifying the race-to-the-bottom that was going on before he started doping. Armstrong was the first to use science and money to take it to a whole new level and he was instrumetal in establishing the Doping, Inc. culture. To say nothing of the pressure that he exerted on his teammates.
Being a turd in a bowl of turds does not unturd you, Lance.
wilt the stilt
(4,528 posts)they weren't even as sophisticated as alot of the others. It would be a good idea to read the article.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)because that still doesn't excuse all the people Armstrong slandered, threatened, intimidated, and blackballed out of the sport while trying to keep his secrets safe...
freshwest
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