Oklahoma House votes 86-3 to override governor's veto on gun bill
Source: NewsOK
The state House on Wednesday voted 86-3 to override Gov. Mary Fallin’s veto of a firearms bill. Wednesday’s vote is the first time either legislative chamber has mustered enough votes to override a veto during Fallin’s administration, the governor’s press secretary said.
House Bill 2461 will go to the state Senate where a two-thirds vote would be required to complete the veto override. The bill initially passed the Senate by a vote of 46-0 on April 22.
Wednesday’s House vote came one day after Fallin vetoed 15 House bills, including this one, while criticizing the House for failing to act on important issues, such as Capitol repairs, while passing flawed bills and bills that are irrelevant to most Oklahomans.
House author Mike Turner, R-Edmond, said his bill is designed to prevent sheriffs and police chiefs from stalling the transfer of federally regulated firearms like silencers and short-barreled rifles if the applicant is not prohibited by law from possessing the items.
Read more: http://m.newsok.com/oklahoma-house-votes-86-3-to-override-governors-veto-on-gun-bill/article/4744695
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upaloopa
(11,417 posts)is most important to us.
If our roads or bridges fall apart at lease we can defend ourselves from any bad guys.
Rather than see the States list of important issues come before our eyes let's make sure we have our silencers and sawed off shotguns.
After all what good is good infrastructure to us if we are shot by a bad guy ?
And if anyone objects to our logic, I'm sure ALEC or the NRA or some gun rights sight will give us good debate talking points to back us up.
mikeysnot
(4,899 posts)God know you cannot live without one of those...
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)They are not the silent devices portrayed in films. They are hearing protection devices and they reduce noise nuisance.
mikeysnot
(4,899 posts)and so are these...
ear plugs work also...
Adrahil
(13,340 posts).... some guns are VERY loud, and having a suppressor makes them significantly quieter, though not whisper quiet like in the movies (with the exception of some small caliber subsonic rounds). Not to mention that anyone living near an outdoor range would appreciate the more regular use of sound suppressors. These things are NOT the criminal's device they are portrayed to be. In fact, many European countries which are MUCH harder on firearms in general, do not regulate sound suppressors hardly at all, and consider them a safety device.
In point of fact, I still wear hearing protection when shooting my suppressed guns, except for the .22, sometimes.
I recommend reading this:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/11/05/405370/-A-Democrat-s-guide-to-why-firearm-sound-suppressors-silencers-should-be-made-easier-to-obtain
mikeysnot
(4,899 posts)safety device... too funny.
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)Did you read the column I linked?
iamthebandfanman
(8,127 posts)you probably WILL need that gun if they continue to allow infrastructure to fail 
anarchy will break out eventually at this rate ...
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)If things get that bad I'd just as soon move on.
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)upaloopa
(11,417 posts)iamthebandfanman
(8,127 posts)I hate guns. I don't even like being around them, period.
They make me uneasy (They are, after all, only designed with one goal.. to kill or maim a living creature). Always have. I was around A LOT of weapons when my youth.. my grandmother , of all people, had a pretty extensive collection of pistols and rifles.. I always refused to use them.. tho I did have fun with a pellet gun she eventually got me when she realized I wasn't going for the live ammo in a real gun 'good times'.
There were a lot of poor leafs that got it those days.
But in the scenario where the government has collapsed and anarchy is occurring.. id probably want one. there are a lot of cold and evil people out there.. and the ones that don't show it WILL during a perceived 'crisis' for personal survival.
Id never use it in an offensive way tho..
But Im not naïve enough to think others wont try to do it to me.. and id like to be able to defend myself if nobody else is around to help me without one
totally understand your stance tho..
maindawg
(1,151 posts)She is experiencing some culture shock. She basically told me that the people live in a bubble. They deny reality as a rule.Its cultural. I am sure they have another side another group of people who are less obvious. I hope there is.
plcdude
(5,333 posts)her feeling. A large majority of Oklahomans do not see or care to see multiple perspectives of issues. We are currently watching political ads lying about the A.C.A. that are even close to reality but go unquestioned by the media news in OK. Let her know there are a few of us here that are not part of the bubble and regularly try to hold the politicians and the media accountable.
Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)They are living in a bubble. They never really experienced the recession because of the states reliance on the oil industry. There economy didn't rely on the housing boom to propel it like California's did.
Like texas the economic indicators have been largely positive while the rest of the country is in a funk. That tells them they are doing the right thing no matter how backwards that is.
greiner3
(5,214 posts)What, that they happen to have a lot of oil and gas under the their land and that OK will never be the 'location, location, location'.
Other than that, I don't see anything OK is doing right, other than their politics.
Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)and they don't have those problems because of x.
It tells them they are doing the right thing. Not saying they are, but it is self reinforcing.
Paladin
(32,303 posts)....just as long as civilian killings are nice and silent.