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7962

(11,841 posts)
Wed Jul 9, 2014, 06:15 PM Jul 2014

Breaking: SCOTUS Justice Alito Denies County Clerk Request -- Pennsylvania Marriage Secured

Last edited Wed Jul 9, 2014, 10:06 PM - Edit history (1)

Source: civil rights movement.com

Conservative Supreme Court justice Samuel Alito has just denied a request by a county clerk to halt the marriages of same-sex couples in Pennsylvania, effectively securing marriage equality in the Keystone State.
Theresa Santai-Gaffney a Schuylkill county clerk had petitioned Justice Samuel Alito -- who oversees Pennsylvania as part of his assigned region, the 3rd Circuit -- to halt same-sex marriage in the Keystone State. Moments ago Justice Alito, one of the Court's more conservative members, denied her request.

ETA: BETTER LINK-- http://www.abc27.com/story/25980071/alito-denies-pa-clerks-bid-to-halt-gay-marriage
Thanks to PoliticAverse for providing it

Read more: http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/breaking_scotus_justice_alito_denies_county_clerk_request_pennsylvania_marriage_secured

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Breaking: SCOTUS Justice Alito Denies County Clerk Request -- Pennsylvania Marriage Secured (Original Post) 7962 Jul 2014 OP
Good. Nt hack89 Jul 2014 #1
The person making the request must really hate Gay people randys1 Jul 2014 #2
Her Facebook page itsrobert Jul 2014 #31
She's getting hammered in comments on her page . . . markpkessinger Jul 2014 #37
yup. she is on the wrong side of history itsrobert Jul 2014 #39
"Yipee Skippy"???? LoisB Jul 2014 #43
“I hope that the Court will ultimately permit the people of each State to decide this question for PoliticAverse Jul 2014 #3
Utah appeals gay marriage to the Supreme Court next week. defacto7 Jul 2014 #25
The dominoes are all lined up. longship Jul 2014 #4
hopeful omen for when all the other state cases reach the supreme court cerveza_gratis Jul 2014 #26
A broke clock is right twice a day. iandhr Jul 2014 #5
Yes, I agree completely with what you have said....no text Stuart G Jul 2014 #18
I applaud his decision; but ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2014 #22
I'm not so sure . . . markpkessinger Jul 2014 #38
somene pleas can i have nelson muntz! leftyohiolib Jul 2014 #6
Nothing shows up at the link for me. William769 Jul 2014 #7
Here's another article on the issue... PoliticAverse Jul 2014 #8
Thanks! William769 Jul 2014 #9
Thanks. Didnt know the link wouldnt work; I'm adding yours to the OP 7962 Jul 2014 #32
I love it Cryptoad Jul 2014 #10
Activist liberal judge, legislating from the bench! bluestateguy Jul 2014 #11
ALITO??? Fred M Jul 2014 #12
hehehe RoBear Jul 2014 #15
Icicles sighted at the gates of Hell? calimary Jul 2014 #20
Glaciers. Benton D Struckcheon Jul 2014 #29
Rather surprised he didn't take the opportunity to take another Ruby the Liberal Jul 2014 #13
I guess the blowback from the Hobby Lobby decision has set in. dballance Jul 2014 #14
I think that states rights overrides EVERYTHING for him The Green Manalishi Jul 2014 #16
We fought the "States Rights" war quite a while ago c. 1861-1865 dballance Jul 2014 #19
Lincoln knew that would probably destroy the Union. He made the right choice. 7962 Jul 2014 #33
Time Out! She was denied a request for standing in the case, not the appeal on same sex weddings PuppyBismark Jul 2014 #17
^This.^ blkmusclmachine Jul 2014 #21
Thanks. The fact that cases are often decided elleng Jul 2014 #42
it's a sop. we "get" marriage equality, they "get" to religiously discriminate everywhere else nt msongs Jul 2014 #23
I think he shows his true colors rickyhall Jul 2014 #24
Alito is a Rat! onehandle Jul 2014 #27
Dont get excited LynnTTT Jul 2014 #28
But it still stops her. The law prevented her from doing it. I'd bet even Scalia would've denied. 7962 Jul 2014 #34
Thank you, 7962! Cha Jul 2014 #30
KnR sheshe2 Jul 2014 #35
My theory about Alito and the other four conservatives markpkessinger Jul 2014 #36
I can get with that reasoning ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2014 #40
Stupid county clerk. She could have gotten her way in one simple move DFW Jul 2014 #41

randys1

(16,286 posts)
2. The person making the request must really hate Gay people
Wed Jul 9, 2014, 06:17 PM
Jul 2014

think about the length she and those like her are willing to go to show their hate

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
3. “I hope that the Court will ultimately permit the people of each State to decide this question for
Wed Jul 9, 2014, 06:18 PM
Jul 2014

themselves" - Alito in June 2013.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
22. I applaud his decision; but ...
Wed Jul 9, 2014, 07:19 PM
Jul 2014

have little faith he will stick to it.

I suspect that the bunches of recent petitions will provide the parameters of Hobby Lobby. And I suspect that it'll come down to "deeply held religious conviction" pertaining to a corporation will pass his muster; otherwise, no.

markpkessinger

(8,395 posts)
38. I'm not so sure . . .
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 12:14 AM
Jul 2014

See my post downthread at http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=843024 . The Hobby Lobby ruling was about throwing a bone to the religious right, as part of a strategy of maintaining their electoral support for the GOP more broadly. But none of the five conservatives on the court is a religious ideologue. With the gay marriage issue, those five justices know full well that the tide of public opinion has shifted quite markedly, and that they will ultimately damage the broader conservative movement if they rule against it.

 

dballance

(5,756 posts)
14. I guess the blowback from the Hobby Lobby decision has set in.
Wed Jul 9, 2014, 06:56 PM
Jul 2014

Alito is the best friend of corporations.

I'm thoroughly surprised he probably gave his decision based upon the precedent of the DOMA case. I'm surprised he didn't contort logic and precedent into fashioning an outcome more to his narrow-minded liking.

I am guessing the outrage from the Hobby Lobby ruling might have had some effect upon his decision.

 

dballance

(5,756 posts)
19. We fought the "States Rights" war quite a while ago c. 1861-1865
Wed Jul 9, 2014, 07:08 PM
Jul 2014

The states that wanted to exercise "states rights" lost the war.

Too bad the Union didn't hang every one of the traitors. They should have hung every officer in the Confederacy and every politician in the Confederacy for treason.

Lincoln was far too accommodating.

PuppyBismark

(594 posts)
17. Time Out! She was denied a request for standing in the case, not the appeal on same sex weddings
Wed Jul 9, 2014, 07:00 PM
Jul 2014

If you read the linked article, you will see she was trying to get standing in the case as the Pennsylvania State Governor decided not to appeal. This does not mean that Alito would not support an actual appeal of the same sex marriages decisions that have been made across the country.

Per the article:

Gov. Tom Corbett's administration declined to appeal Jones' decision, prompting Santai-Gaffney's attempt to intervene. Her efforts to suspend Jones' decision while she tries to achieve standing in the case were rebuffed by Jones and a federal appellate court.

msongs

(67,405 posts)
23. it's a sop. we "get" marriage equality, they "get" to religiously discriminate everywhere else nt
Wed Jul 9, 2014, 07:20 PM
Jul 2014

rickyhall

(4,889 posts)
24. I think he shows his true colors
Wed Jul 9, 2014, 07:21 PM
Jul 2014

He's not conservative he's a corporate shill. Corporations have nothing to gain by outlawing same sex marriage.

LynnTTT

(362 posts)
28. Dont get excited
Wed Jul 9, 2014, 07:45 PM
Jul 2014

Without reading the decision, it probably just means that the clerk does not have legal standing to decide not to enforce the law.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
34. But it still stops her. The law prevented her from doing it. I'd bet even Scalia would've denied.
Wed Jul 9, 2014, 10:11 PM
Jul 2014

And the fact that she was denied with no comment is a bit of a slap too. Like he just ignored her. IMO, anyway

markpkessinger

(8,395 posts)
36. My theory about Alito and the other four conservatives
Wed Jul 9, 2014, 11:13 PM
Jul 2014

None of them is actually a religious ideologue. They will throw a bone to religious conservatives here and there (such as the Hobby Lobby ruling), purely as a means of maintaining the religious right as a source of votes, but in the end they really don't give a shit about that constituency. The only constituency they actually care about is the corporate constituency. Thus, with an issue like this one, they know that public opinion has shifted on gay marriage, and that by ruling against it, they will serve only to damage the broader conservative movement. It's all very, very calculated.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
40. I can get with that reasoning ...
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 12:20 AM
Jul 2014

but how are they going to maintain that constituency in the face of all the petitions and cases winding their way through the lower courts.

DFW

(54,370 posts)
41. Stupid county clerk. She could have gotten her way in one simple move
Thu Jul 10, 2014, 07:29 AM
Jul 2014

All she had to do was incorporate.

Theresa Santai-Gaffney is no one the Supreme Court cares about.

Theresa Santai-Gaffney, INC., however----ahhhh, that would have been a different story entirely.
Good thing for marriage equality that right wingers seldom read the news (those that can read at all, that is).

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