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avaistheone1

(14,626 posts)
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 06:43 PM Jul 2014

One injection stops diabetes in its tracks: Treatment reverses symptoms of type 2 diabetes in mice

Source: Science Daily

In mice with diet-induced diabetes -- the equivalent of type 2 diabetes in humans -- a single injection of the protein FGF1 is enough to restore blood sugar levels to a healthy range for more than two days. The discovery by Salk scientists, published today in the journal Nature, could lead to a new generation of safer, more effective diabetes drugs.

The team found that sustained treatment with the protein doesn't merely keep blood sugar under control, but also reverses insulin insensitivity, the underlying physiological cause of diabetes. Equally exciting, the newly developed treatment doesn't result in side effects common to most current diabetes treatments...

...Diabetes drugs currently on the market aim to boost insulin levels and reverse insulin resistance by changing expression levels of genes to lower glucose levels in the blood. But drugs, such as Byetta, which increase the body's production of insulin, can cause glucose levels to dip too low and lead to life-threatening hypoglycemia, as well as other side effects.

Read more: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/07/140716131541.htm



from the Salk Institute for Biological Studies
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One injection stops diabetes in its tracks: Treatment reverses symptoms of type 2 diabetes in mice (Original Post) avaistheone1 Jul 2014 OP
Wow! MannyGoldstein Jul 2014 #1
Indeed! avaistheone1 Jul 2014 #3
Amen ninjanurse Jul 2014 #11
Yes! And luckily the ones suffering from the mouse diabetes epidemic are all lab mice cui bono Jul 2014 #24
So how many gallons of High Fructose Corn Syrup can I chug each day now? onehandle Jul 2014 #2
Hopefully few will take that approach. avaistheone1 Jul 2014 #4
Honestly I don't care yeoman6987 Jul 2014 #6
That's a totally shitty way to look at a wonderful advance in medicine. Diabetes has both a Ed Suspicious Jul 2014 #14
"There's no cure for type 2 diabetes, but you can manage the condition . . ." Ed Suspicious Jul 2014 #16
You're so right, Ed. My husband developed Type I at age 4. catbyte Jul 2014 #25
I was diagnosed with Type II Diabetes last year... Moostache Jul 2014 #15
I don't see it as taking a shot at overweight people. cui bono Jul 2014 #29
We won't see eye to eye on this, so I will leave it at agree to disagree and move on. (nt) Moostache Jul 2014 #31
What's important is that we don't cure any conditions JoeyT Jul 2014 #19
highly offended by this. rurallib Jul 2014 #27
That was my first thought. I don't understand the responses you are getting. cui bono Jul 2014 #28
Me either. onehandle Jul 2014 #32
If you are implying that all diabetics have to do is change they way they eat ... Yo_Mama Jul 2014 #34
A. wow B. dont allow any science denier access to the drug randys1 Jul 2014 #5
Or any morons like Sarah Palin cheapdate Jul 2014 #7
I sure wish this stuff could be tested and deployed rapidly. nt Nay Jul 2014 #8
Don't get your hopes up -- mice are a very poor animal model localroger Jul 2014 #9
This is a really good time to be a mouse. eggplant Jul 2014 #10
While We're Waiting ninjanurse Jul 2014 #12
more. faster. please. nt littlewolf Jul 2014 #13
Replication. eom littlemissmartypants Jul 2014 #17
I just hope defacto7 Jul 2014 #18
Thanks much for posting this news theHandpuppet Jul 2014 #20
This is exciting news Babel_17 Jul 2014 #21
Hope it works in humans aint_no_life_nowhere Jul 2014 #22
Sounds promising. I hope this isn't one of those things that works in mice but not in humans, winter is coming Jul 2014 #23
Wonderful news get the red out Jul 2014 #26
slightly off topic, but this is a wonderful way to honor Dr. Salk rurallib Jul 2014 #30
K&R! burrowowl Jul 2014 #33
 

avaistheone1

(14,626 posts)
3. Indeed!
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 06:50 PM
Jul 2014

This certainly would be nothing short of a miracle for millions of people,

and a huge game-changer for the health care industry.

ninjanurse

(93 posts)
11. Amen
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 08:43 PM
Jul 2014

Being in the health care industry I see the awful devastation of diabetes, the increase and the struggles people have to try to live with it. A safer, more effective drug would save much suffering as well as money.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
24. Yes! And luckily the ones suffering from the mouse diabetes epidemic are all lab mice
Thu Jul 17, 2014, 12:50 PM
Jul 2014

so they can easily get their treatment.

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
2. So how many gallons of High Fructose Corn Syrup can I chug each day now?
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 06:47 PM
Jul 2014

Last edited Thu Jul 17, 2014, 06:46 AM - Edit history (1)

If this works on humans, that's how some will see it.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
6. Honestly I don't care
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 06:59 PM
Jul 2014

if this is found to work, it will help millions of people. We should applaud this and not make disparaging remarks. I don't have the disease but I know many people who do.

Ed Suspicious

(8,879 posts)
14. That's a totally shitty way to look at a wonderful advance in medicine. Diabetes has both a
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 08:55 PM
Jul 2014

behavioral, a social, a psychological, and a genetic component. To depict diabetics as gluttonous corn syrup drinkers is just straight unfair. I don't care how well I eat or how well my sugars are controlled, I will always for the rest of my life be diabetic. I will always be unable to process sugars like you might be able to.

I will always be diabetic, just like my great grandparents, just like my grandparents, just like my mom. We are type II and it is not a result of poor eating and lack of exercise. Well that may get in the way sometimes, but I can tell you that my grandmother who has lived with it for the past 30 years takes her meds, exercises, eats precisely as her doctor recommends and is absolutely still diabetic.

Diabetes is misunderstood and you are not helping here. You make it sound like I can will my diabetes into submission. I can control my sugars and my risk factors, but again, I will always, no matter how good my control, no matter how much I exercise, no matter how restrictive my diet, I will always and forever for the rest of my days be diabetic.

Ed Suspicious

(8,879 posts)
16. "There's no cure for type 2 diabetes, but you can manage the condition . . ."
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 09:23 PM
Jul 2014
http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/type-2-diabetes/basics/definition/con-20031902

One of the insidious aspects of diabetes is that as as you gain weight often your become more and more resistant to insulin, unfortunately, the more you resist, the hungrier you get. The cycle is a bitch to break and is like the cause behind many undiagnosed diabetics rapid weight gain. If they don't know they have it they can go years without even knowing they are diabetic and often the lions share of the weight comes on after their cells become resistant to insulin.

Increased hunger. Without enough insulin to move sugar into your cells, your muscles and organs become depleted of energy. This triggers intense hunger.


It is easy to imagine how, prior to the ACA, people could go years, even decades or their whole lives without being diagnosed.

How easy would it be to develop negative food habits when no matter how much you eat or drink, satiation never comes?

So to loose weight you need more exercise?

Fatigue - If your cells are deprived of sugar, you may become tired and irritable.
Tough to exercise with undiagnosed Type 2 because you are always tired. Always napping after a meal. Always craving.

Read up an learn please. This idea that if we just don't eat donuts we'd never have to worry is a gross oversimplification that fuels the idea that diabetics are fat lazy and of low moral character.

I see it all the time. It needs to end.

catbyte

(34,376 posts)
25. You're so right, Ed. My husband developed Type I at age 4.
Thu Jul 17, 2014, 03:37 PM
Jul 2014

His pancreas just completely ceased to produce insulin. I don't think it's anything he did at age 4. I know that Type I & II are different, though. Sometimes, no matter how careful one is, crap happens.

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
15. I was diagnosed with Type II Diabetes last year...
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 09:19 PM
Jul 2014

It was the latest in a string of health set-backs over the last 5 years that has included renal cell carcinoma, a herniated disc in my back, a lost job and 8 months of unemployment. Your ignorant comments are hurtful and I would not wish my struggles on even you.

Please refrain from taking shots at overweight people, the truly last safe bastion of bigotry to take a free run at...

Medical breakthroughs that could lead to bettering millions of lives deserve better, but the people suffering from diseases should be the real concern and you failed miserably on that count. I hope it made you feel all better inside your hollowed out heart because I'm sure I was not the only one that your comments hit like a bat. Thanks for ruining my evening.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
29. I don't see it as taking a shot at overweight people.
Thu Jul 17, 2014, 04:36 PM
Jul 2014

I saw it as a take on our society where as a whole we are always looking for the "quick fix" so we don't have to do the work. It's not just about food either, although the examples that come to mind right away are other medical conditions. Rather than change diet for cholesterol or heart disease people will keep eating what their doctor advises them against and just take a drug instead of modifying diet.

JoeyT

(6,785 posts)
19. What's important is that we don't cure any conditions
Thu Jul 17, 2014, 01:50 AM
Jul 2014

for which one of the causes is something you personally find objectionable.

You're dripping moral crusade all over a thread about an important discovery. Might want to get that looked at.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
28. That was my first thought. I don't understand the responses you are getting.
Thu Jul 17, 2014, 04:32 PM
Jul 2014

It's like most things in this country. People don't want to modify their behavior if there's a "quick fix" for it. It's not just about food either.

Yo_Mama

(8,303 posts)
34. If you are implying that all diabetics have to do is change they way they eat ...
Fri Jul 18, 2014, 05:37 AM
Jul 2014

you are mentally orbiting some planet in a galaxy far, far away.

Type II has an extremely strong genetic component. Many of the people I deal with have been on rigorous diets since their teens, and still they develop it. That's because many of them seem to be born with hyperinsulinism. We know because now we are checking kids and grandchildren, and sure enough, quite a few of the three year-olds have abnormal blood sugar responses.

You're just not dealing with reality.

cheapdate

(3,811 posts)
7. Or any morons like Sarah Palin
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 07:13 PM
Jul 2014

who ignorantly mock basic research funding by the National Academies ("...$2 million to study the sex life of fruit flies!&quot while calling for research budgets to be slashed.

localroger

(3,626 posts)
9. Don't get your hopes up -- mice are a very poor animal model
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 07:26 PM
Jul 2014

Mouse diabetes responds much better to treatment than human diabetes. There have been dozens of promising treatments in the mosue model that didn't work for humans. If it works in primates it's worth getting your hopes up.

eggplant

(3,911 posts)
10. This is a really good time to be a mouse.
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 08:05 PM
Jul 2014

You can be kept alive practically forever with current treatments.

ninjanurse

(93 posts)
12. While We're Waiting
Wed Jul 16, 2014, 08:49 PM
Jul 2014

The current drugs and health advice- diet and exercise, can save people from the worst complications of diabetes. There are people just coming on to insurance and people who never got the support they needed, who don't have the tools to control diabetes. We in health care who deal with the community are constantly teaching and getting patients connected with the services they need.
There are people who struggle already, and diabetes is just too much. But I see what it does when untreated- blindness, amputations, kidney failure. We should all be more scared.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
18. I just hope
Thu Jul 17, 2014, 12:34 AM
Jul 2014

it makes it to market. Some medical breakthroughs do not and I don't mean they fail as a breakthrough, they just disappear. I don't know why.

Babel_17

(5,400 posts)
21. This is exciting news
Thu Jul 17, 2014, 11:35 AM
Jul 2014

Though as the article more or less states, more needs to be learned about how it works on insulin resistance. Then again, if it works, it works. As it seems there are no bad side effects, we might see some limited human trials before too long.

I try and help my friends with type 2 diabetes by suggesting certain foods and supplements. Foods like cauliflower, coconut oil, Alaskan Salmon, Skipjack Tuna (aka chunk light), are on my list. I've also got everyone using Ceylon Cinnamon. Just pour away!

I recommend several supplements and it seems that Gymnema is delivering on helping keep blood sugar in check.

A new one, to me anyway, that I'm trying on myself* is benfotiamine. It's purported to help against AGE and neuropathy. I tell everyone to take stabilized R-Alpha Lipoic Acid.

*I've got a slight issue with, on the ball of my right foot, experiencing the feeling of a rolled up sock. Roughly what Morton's Neuroma can do. I'm also trying other stuff for that. I've got some other nerve issues I hope the Benfotiamine might help with.

Edit: I don't have type 2 diabetes but I'm trying to eat according to a very low carb diet.

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
22. Hope it works in humans
Thu Jul 17, 2014, 11:49 AM
Jul 2014

but I won't get carried away. Just because it works in lab mice doesn't mean it will have the same effect in human beings. There have been so very many prospective drugs for a variety of diseases including Alzheimer's that have shown effectiveness, even cures, and that just don't work when it comes to human trials. As someone with type II diabetes myself, I hope this works.

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
23. Sounds promising. I hope this isn't one of those things that works in mice but not in humans,
Thu Jul 17, 2014, 12:46 PM
Jul 2014

and that it doesn't kill your liver or something else.

get the red out

(13,462 posts)
26. Wonderful news
Thu Jul 17, 2014, 03:49 PM
Jul 2014

My husband and sister have type II diabetes. I hope they can get this safely ready for human use quickly.

rurallib

(62,411 posts)
30. slightly off topic, but this is a wonderful way to honor Dr. Salk
Thu Jul 17, 2014, 04:36 PM
Jul 2014

I was a kid when he found the vaccine for polio and took nary a penny extra than his salary for it.

Nowadays every "capitalist" is looking to find that zillion dollar drug or app. If it plays out, I know not if the Salk people will follow Dr. Salk's example. I hope they do.

Still making this discovery is a testament to Dr. Salk.

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