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Judi Lynn

(160,527 posts)
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 04:24 PM Jul 2014

US Military Once Planned on Building Surveillance System on the Moon

Source: ABC News

US Military Once Planned on Building Surveillance System on the Moon

Jul 20, 2014, 3:10 PM ET

By GEETIKA RUDRA via World News

The United States military once planned to build a surveillance station on the moon.

Code named "Project Horizon," a declassified report released today on the 45th anniversary of Neil Armstrong's historic moonwalk outlines the military's detailed plans to install a moon-to-Earth surveillance system that would have been used for "facilitating communications with and observation of the earth." The report that was originally published in 1959 exceeds 100 pages.

Project Horizon also included a proposal to build a moon-based weapons system that would have allowed the military to launch offensives from the moon towards Earth and even into outer space.

The declassified documents also reveal that the military attempted to investigate the effects of detonating a nuclear weapon on and in the vicinity of the moon.

Although no such detonation occurred, the report tries to speculate the effects nuclear radiation would have had on alien lifeforms.
Another declassified report entitled "The Kidnapping of the Lunik" details how American operatives stole and later returned a Soviet space capsule called the Lunik during a Soviet exhibition tour in order to gather intelligence on Soviet space capability.


Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/US/us-military-planned-building-surveillance-system-moon/story?id=24639939

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US Military Once Planned on Building Surveillance System on the Moon (Original Post) Judi Lynn Jul 2014 OP
Of course they did. cheapdate Jul 2014 #1
plus Davy Crockett warheads and Claymores redesigned to puncture pressure suits! what fun! MisterP Jul 2014 #2
Awkward we have to ride the Russian space shuttle to the space station newfie11 Jul 2014 #3
My understanding was that there was an international treaty signed shraby Jul 2014 #4
1967 International Treaty on Outer Space.... lastlib Jul 2014 #11
Thanks, I knew there was. Didn't know what they called it though. shraby Jul 2014 #13
Only the SHADO knows awoke_in_2003 Jul 2014 #5
Dark Side Of The Moon billhicks76 Jul 2014 #6
oh really???!!! heaven05 Jul 2014 #7
Can only imagine the huge waste of taxpayer LibDemAlways Jul 2014 #8
A lunar weapons platform would suck for the most part NickB79 Jul 2014 #9
Secret plan to go to the sun revealed! truthisfreedom Jul 2014 #10
Also from that time period: Operation NORTHWOODS blkmusclmachine Jul 2014 #12

cheapdate

(3,811 posts)
1. Of course they did.
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 04:28 PM
Jul 2014

Military supremacy is frequently a matter of gaining the high ground. The moon is the ultimate high ground.

newfie11

(8,159 posts)
3. Awkward we have to ride the Russian space shuttle to the space station
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 04:56 PM
Jul 2014

We would need to build a spaceship to the moon.

shraby

(21,946 posts)
4. My understanding was that there was an international treaty signed
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 05:12 PM
Jul 2014

at that time to NOT use space for military advantage.

lastlib

(23,226 posts)
11. 1967 International Treaty on Outer Space....
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 10:48 PM
Jul 2014
http://history.nasa.gov/1967treaty.html

prohibits any military use of outer space, the moon and planets. It bans weapons of mass destruction in space, as well as any non-peaceful activities.
 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
6. Dark Side Of The Moon
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 06:31 PM
Jul 2014

Some astronauts claim that on the dark side, which never faces earth I believe because our moon doesn't rotate like other moons, they found gigantic pyramidal, spherical and rectangular structures but were forced to keep quiet.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
7. oh really???!!!
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 07:02 PM
Jul 2014

gosh, I'm surprised. Not. Human beings, the top of the food chain. Nothing but destruction, death, murder, hate, wars of all kind in the name of, well you name it, people are killed for it. This is what the human being has wrought. No we're not getting better(evolving) by any stretch of the imagination. Detonate a nuke on the moon. geez.

LibDemAlways

(15,139 posts)
8. Can only imagine the huge waste of taxpayer
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 07:12 PM
Jul 2014

dollars that boondoggle would have been. Billions would have been spent before cooler heads prevailed and deep-sixed the whole stupid idea.

I have relatives who worked in aerospace all their lives and never saw a project through to completion because of cost overruns, fraud, waste, abuse, and cancellations.

NickB79

(19,236 posts)
9. A lunar weapons platform would suck for the most part
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 07:15 PM
Jul 2014

The transit time for a missile to transit from the Moon to Earth would be measured in hours, if not days, vs. the 45 min. or so for an ICBM to hit a target in the former USSR.

About the only thing such a base would have going for it would be that it would be out of range of enemy weapons, making it more of a deterrent threat than a real threat. IE, even if the Soviets launched a sneak attack and wiped out most of our land-based ICBM silos and air force, they'd still be at risk from lunar-based counterstrikes. But ICBM-equipped submarines basically do the same thing, and can get the missiles on-target in minutes.

truthisfreedom

(23,147 posts)
10. Secret plan to go to the sun revealed!
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 07:27 PM
Jul 2014

1959 report shows top secret plan to avoid being burned... we were going to go at night.

 

blkmusclmachine

(16,149 posts)
12. Also from that time period: Operation NORTHWOODS
Sun Jul 20, 2014, 11:56 PM
Jul 2014
U.S. Military Wanted to Provoke War With Cuba


In the early 1960s, America's top military leaders reportedly drafted plans to kill innocent people and commit acts of terrorism in U.S. cities to create public support for a war against Cuba.

Code named Operation Northwoods, the plans reportedly included the assassination of Cuban émigrés, sinking boats of Cuban refugees on the high seas, hijacking planes, blowing up a U.S. ship, and orchestrating violent terrorism in U.S. cities.

The plans were developed as ways to trick the American public and the international community into supporting a war to oust Cuba's then new leader, communist Fidel Castro.



http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=92662&page=1






Imagine what a George W. Bush in the White House would have done at that time.
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