President Obama: Weekly Address: Closing Corporate Tax Loopholes
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Source: White House
In this weeks address, the President continued his call for our nation to rally around an economic patriotism that says rather than protecting wasteful tax loopholes for a few at the top, we should be investing in things like education and job training that grow the economy for everybody.
The President highlighted the need to close one of the most unfair tax loopholes that allows companies to avoid paying taxes here at home by shifting their residence for tax purposes out of the country. The President has put forth a budget that does just that, and he has called for business tax reform that makes investment in the United States attractive, and creates incentives for companies to invest and create jobs here at home. And while he will continue to make the case for tax reform, the President is calling on Congress to take action and close this loophole now.
Read more: http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2014/07/26/weekly-address-closing-corporate-tax-loopholes
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2014/07/26/weekly-address-closing-corporate-tax-loopholes
transcript
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Even as corporate profits are as high as ever, a small but growing group of big corporations are fleeing the country to get out of paying taxes. Theyre keeping most of their business inside the United States, but theyre basically renouncing their citizenship and declaring that theyre based somewhere else, just to avoid paying their fair share.
I want to be clear: this is only a few big corporations so far. The vast majority of American businesses pay their taxes right here in the United States. But when some companies cherrypick their taxes, it damages the countrys finances. It adds to the deficit. It makes it harder to invest in the things that will keep America strong, and it sticks you with the tab for what they stash offshore. Right now, a loophole in our tax laws makes this totally legal and I think thats totally wrong. You dont get to pick which rules you play by, or which tax rate you pay, and neither should these companies.
The best way to level the playing field is through tax reform that lowers the corporate tax rate, closes wasteful loopholes, and simplifies the tax code for everybody. But stopping companies from renouncing their citizenship just to get out of paying their fair share of taxes is something that cannot wait. Thats why, in my budget earlier this year, I proposed closing this unpatriotic tax loophole for good. Democrats in Congress have advanced proposals that would do the same thing. A couple Republicans have indicated they want to address this too, and I hope more join us.
Rather than double-down on the top-down economics that let a fortunate few play by their own rules, lets embrace an economic patriotism that says we rise or fall together, as one nation, and as one people. Lets reward the hard work of ordinary Americans who play by the rules. Together, we can build up our middle class, hand down something better to our kids, and restore the American Dream for all who work for it and study for it and strive for it.
ballyhoo
(2,060 posts)entitlements again... An open book.
RiverNoord
(1,150 posts)could very substantially increase government revenue. It all depends on which loopholes are closed and just exactly 'closed' means.
ballyhoo
(2,060 posts)the road to neo-feudalism the string-pullers will have their way.
RiverNoord
(1,150 posts)the most effective tactics the 'string-pullers' have always used involve suppressing even the mention of such stuff. When the President of the United States makes statements calling tax-jumping to foreign jurisdictions 'unpatriotic', I'm not sure that anyone but he is pulling strings...
Could be wrong, of course...
7962
(11,841 posts)There's a knee jerk reaction to any suggestion to lower rates. Which is ridiculous, because not many companies PAY THAT RATE!!
cstanleytech
(26,347 posts)some taxes still where as right now the way things are there are many loopholes in place which let them get away with paying zero.
ballyhoo
(2,060 posts)will continue not to pay no matter what. Once a loophole is closed (should that happen), a new, more creative loophole will be opened. It's far past the time that corporations will be required to pay more taxes. The MIC is coming after entitlements and Obama will be their facilitator.
randys1
(16,286 posts)This is what is fucked up, seems the little guy is always taking it in the shorts.
REAL SIMPLE
the more you make, the more you pay as a percentage, no exceptions
small corps have far less loopholes to play with, is my point
ballyhoo
(2,060 posts)myself putting in networks. Our discussions may be written on the wind right now, though. I think we have lost control and really have no democracy anymore. But if you don't feel that way, that's okay too. All of us have taken different paths to where we are and how we see things. I tend to be a pessimist.
I love how the solution is always "lower the rates so companies won't want to avoid it and oh btw close some loopholes to look productive" and never just "close the damn loopholes"
ballyhoo
(2,060 posts)has his own conductor.
BlueStreak
(8,377 posts)They don't need to pay less. However, if by BOTH lowering rates and eliminating the loopholes gets all business closer to paying their fair share, that's worth considering.
The risk, of course, is that they will take yet another cut, but keep the best loopholes in place such that the biggest corporations continue to pay essentially no tax at all.
ballyhoo
(2,060 posts)this is done under a Bernie Sanders type or Elizabeth Warren.
grahamhgreen
(15,741 posts)albino65
(484 posts)are the obstructionist republithugs who will do anything their corporate masters want. If a company flees the country to avoid taxes, tariffs should be in place that replaces the lost taxes plus punitive damages at triple.
Tea Party:
Traitors Each and All
Pontificating, Anarchic, Reactionary, Talking-head Yahoos
RiverNoord
(1,150 posts)These loopholes are not only unpatriotic, they're anti-patriotic. If a company calls itself American, and 'corporations are people' (which is crap, but you can't have it both ways), then it needs to conduct its business in the context of loyalty to its country. 'Nuff said.
JayhawkSD
(3,163 posts)So here we go again, trying to beat our opponent by being our opponent.
In how many ways can we make Democrats undistinguishable from Republicans?
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)Wonder how that happened? By all means, lets excoriate whomever it was who did this, and make 'em change it back!
- Pronto, or whenever.....
Ya know..... you could take cannabis off the Schedule I list all by yourself........
BumRushDaShow
(129,913 posts)There are DUers who believe that these addresses don't exist at all and others who do hear about them who manage to perpetually complain.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Years ago then-Senator Barack Obama acknowledged this problem. He didn't have a simple solution though:
The bottom line is that our job is harder than the conservatives' job. After all, it's easy to articulate a belligerent foreign policy based solely on unilateral military action, a policy that sounds tough and acts dumb; it's harder to craft a foreign policy that's tough and smart. It's easy to dismantle government safety nets; it's harder to transform those safety nets so that they work for people and can be paid for. It's easy to embrace a theological absolutism; it's harder to find the right balance between the legitimate role of faith in our lives and the demands of our civic religion. But that's our job. And I firmly believe that whenever we exaggerate or demonize, or oversimplify or overstate our case, we lose. Whenever we dumb down the political debate, we lose. A polarized electorate that is turned off of politics, and easily dismisses both parties because of the nasty, dishonest tone of the debate, works perfectly well for those who seek to chip away at the very idea of government because, in the end, a cynical electorate is a selfish electorate.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/09/30/153069/-Tone-Truth-and-the-Democratic-Party
There are plenty of people who count on you getting cynical and count on you not getting involved so that you dont vote, so you give up. And you cant give into that. America is making progress, despite what the cynics say...
Cynicism is popular these days. Its what passes off as wisdom. But cynics didnt put a man on the moon. Cynics never won a war. Cynics didnt cure a disease, or start a business, or feed a young mind. Cynicism didnt bring about the right for women to vote, or the right for African Americans to be full citizens. Cynicism is a choice.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2014/07/10/remarks-president-economy-austin-tx
Please read the Rest:
http://immasmartypants.blogspot.com/2014/07/the-great-american-freak-out.html
Every word rings true and '...in the end, a cynical electorate is a selfish electorate.'
to Sheshe:
The Great American Freak-Out
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5292216
The weekly addresses are on youtube and iTunes for free. All one has to do is be willing to hear the voice and ideas of the man who was elected, not selected and paid to speak by shadowy entities who spread the message that our future was written years ago.
That's denying living in the present and the urgency of acting to help each other now. It disempowers those who believe it and hands decision making to the Libertarians and corporations.
BumRushDaShow
(129,913 posts)I listen to it on my local (CBS-affiliate) all-news radio station every Saturday morning between 6:05 am - 6:10 am ET. When they used to air Shrub's weekly address, they made sure to put it on at 10:05 am.
I.e., some local news/talk stations in the big cities do air them.
By Matt Viser
Globe Staff July 07, 2014
WASHINGTON It evokes an image of President Franklin D. Roosevelt delivering one of his fireside chats to a rapt radio audience. Or a bygone era when families motored to the country on a Saturday morning, tuning in to the official word from the White House. In nostalgic defiance of todays hyper-drive news cycle, the tradition endures as the Weekly Presidential Address.
While historians and current White House officials fiercely defend this packaged political ritual, there is evidence that the address has faded into near-irrelevance. It generates far less news coverage than it did when it began three decades ago, and it is so under the radar that no one is tracking its listenership or even which stations are carrying it. Is he even still doing them? asked Peter Lydotes, director of operations at WBUR, a major public radio outlet in Boston. He is.
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Although the current White House took the address into the video age with recordings they hope will go viral on the Internet in essence its the same format as Roosevelt pioneered in the 1930s. It harkens to an age before news was digested and spit out in 30 seconds.
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Although Roosevelt was known for his fireside chats, spoken to an America still recovering from the Great Depression, his speeches were fairly sporadic. It wasnt until 1982 that President Reagan launched a weekly address, delivered every Saturday morning.
More: http://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2014/07/06/president-obama-weekly-radio-address-anachronism-that-endures/2xtr0v07pKPHcuqk6QvckN/story.html
Agree that it doesn't fit the narrative of "he's not getting out there with messaging" or the "He should do radio addresses like FDR" nonsense.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)BumRushDaShow
(129,913 posts)Baitball Blogger
(46,776 posts)champagne boat ride three miles off the coast of the USA to sign a contract in order to avoid certain taxes.
So, yes, something is amiss here.
Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)After masterful negotiations and much needed bi-partisan compromise, we will end up with lower tax rates for Corporations and will close loopholes that mainly benefit the Middle class because of thinking like this:
Ever-increasing tax breaks for U.S. families eclipse benefits for special interests
Obama is a master negotiator.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)but also long term success for the company and what's good for the country as a whole. The CNBC pro-biz hacks couldn't give a quick come back on that one like they usually do.
moondust
(20,023 posts)could lead to opportunities for new players who are more socially responsible.
lunasun
(21,646 posts)Turbineguy
(37,400 posts)or tax their employees at European rates under the tax reciprocity agreement.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)Or impose a sales tax that covers both services and products sold in the US and then use that tax revenue to give big tax cuts to low-income working people in the US, say on their payroll taxes.
Either way, money earned should be taxed. The only tax relief should be for housing, education debts and child care, the relief that helps the middle class and the poor.
The rich can charge more for their services and products to cover the increased taxes they would have to pay under such a system.
The tax system we have right now rewards those who hide money overseas. It penalizes working people and people who keep their money in the US.
We can change this by changing our tax codes to serve the middle class and the poor rather than the rich.
If somebody makes a computer in the US and sells it in Europe, chances are the European country charges a VAT or value added tax to the price of the computer when it is purchased in Europe. That is one of the ways they fund their social services and build a relatively peaceful society. That money helps pay for single payer or some similar form of health care insurance, education, pensions. The people also pay income taxes, but the VAT taxes make a big difference.
We should be taxing the companies that create jobs overseas and if we give any companies a break, it should be based on a tax deduction for each employee hired in the US.
Let's bring the jobs home -- and the tax revenue too.
Did you hear that Apple, Microsoft, all you banks, etc. Bring the jobs home -- and the tax revenue too.
Uben
(7,719 posts).....just like they require foods to label contents. Something like-
Notice to buyer:We are unpatriotic idiots who believe personal enrichment is greater than the needs of our nation. Therefore, we don't want to pay taxes but would really like to be able to use the roads and enjoy both fire and police protection at no cost to us. We know some may not agree with us, but fuck you, we make the rules.
... Love it!
candelista
(1,986 posts)The real purpose is "lower corporate tax rates." As much as I like President Obama, he is Wall Street's guy.
cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
hollowdweller
(4,229 posts)Still, here we are 10 years later, despite having had democratic majorities in the house and senate during that period and nothing has happened about it.
Maybe with the progressive coalition in the party now we might see something happen? However I'm not holding my breath.
During their swing thru the Rustbelt, Obama was sounding like John L Lewis and Hillary like Mother Jones and nothing came of it.
As far as protecting the American worker the Democratic party has been like the GOP on abortion. They will do some stuff around the edges to pacify the people who want real change but it will only be slight. That is why the dems fail to win working class voters.
candelista
(1,986 posts)vkkv
(3,384 posts)Funny how historically it has alwyas been RIGHT WINGERS that have called for PROTECTIONIST laws, but since Obama is the POTUS, the GOP would rather fight was is right and support Big Business over small business and the middle class.
How do RepubliScums SLEEP at night?
randys1
(16,286 posts)Roy Serohz
(236 posts)AngryAmish
(25,704 posts)jamzrockz
(1,333 posts)Just hit them with enough tarrifs equal to that they would have paid had they been in the US. Unless some free trade agreement is getting in the way of that
C Moon
(12,225 posts)Stainless
(718 posts)A good friend was just hired by a well respected medical device manufacturing company. The American owned company, Medtronic, is merging with an Irish company, Covidien, and moving their headquarters to Ireland for tax purposes.
I strongly support President Obama in his efforts to reign in this egregious tax avoidance scam.