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progree

(10,904 posts)
Sun Aug 17, 2014, 12:49 AM Aug 2014

Protesters take to streets again ahead of curfew in Ferguson

Source: Reuters

FERGUSON Mo. (Reuters) - Hundreds of demonstrators in Ferguson, Missouri, angry at the shooting death of a black teenager by a white police officer took to the streets in the rain on Saturday night, ahead of a planned curfew called for by the state's governor.

... The mood among hundreds of protesters on a main road in Ferguson that has been the scene of recent demonstrations was tense and defiant on Saturday night. Dozens of helmet-clad officers holding full-length shields took position near demonstrators in the rain.

... The store was looted by rioters on Friday night, and on Saturday night a line of officers stood guard in front of the business as demonstrators marched nearby.

... On Saturday, dozens of demonstrators sat down in an intersection in Seattle. In Oakland on Friday night, a crowd marched through the streets and one police officer was assaulted in the demonstration and two arrests were made, city officials said in a statement.

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/missouri-governor-declares-emergency-sets-curfew-ferguson-004210244.html



The curfew will run from midnight until 5 a.m. CDT (0500 to 1000 GMT) until further notice

I ran out of my 4 paragraph limit, but its worthwhile to note from the this article that Governor Nixon faced an angry crowd at a news conference Saturday afternoon.

I was just wondering what impact the rain might be having so I checked the news and this is what I found. Curfew starts in 10 minutes from this posting.
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Protesters take to streets again ahead of curfew in Ferguson (Original Post) progree Aug 2014 OP
Thank you, progree.. Cha Aug 2014 #1
There will be no looting tonight.... ReRe Aug 2014 #2
Watched live feed and about 12:15 they said there were about 150 people still protesting at the site jwirr Aug 2014 #17
We have to... ReRe Aug 2014 #28
WOW. Just heard on KMOX radio that there's tear gas fired. Crowd is running alp227 Aug 2014 #3
THANKS! I don't have cable TV, so am glad of a way to follow live progree Aug 2014 #4
A St. Louis TV station has a live feed. alp227 Aug 2014 #5
(so called news) ...And could be full of lies. eom littlemissmartypants Aug 2014 #7
Snip.. littlemissmartypants Aug 2014 #6
“I am committed to making sure the forces of peace and justice prevail,” Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2014 #11
That was the very phrase that got my attention. nt littlemissmartypants Aug 2014 #12
How else would one stop the violence? joeglow3 Aug 2014 #19
The cops ARE the violence. Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2014 #22
12:55 am, Ferguson time... ReRe Aug 2014 #8
142 am CDT - Sounds like its been over for about an hour or more progree Aug 2014 #9
Thank you. nt littlemissmartypants Aug 2014 #10
shooting, several arrests reported after Ferguson curfew rollin74 Aug 2014 #13
video from Ferguson protest after the curfew (including shots fired) rollin74 Aug 2014 #14
That video has been pulled, makes me wonder why. NYC_SKP Aug 2014 #16
I found this video of the shooting still available rollin74 Aug 2014 #21
Could someone please tell me, if you know.. truth2power Aug 2014 #24
according to people who were on scene... rollin74 Aug 2014 #26
thanks. i hope it wasn't the police. that's all we need, truth2power Aug 2014 #27
found the exact same video. re-posted it above rollin74 Aug 2014 #23
the looting heaven05 Aug 2014 #15
I don't think there was any looting last night - the police were protecting the stores like they jwirr Aug 2014 #18
yep heaven05 Aug 2014 #20
It's frustrating to me Iamthetruth Aug 2014 #29
I have no problem heaven05 Aug 2014 #30
Things were calming down Thursday night. The Police Chief reignited them. SunSeeker Aug 2014 #25

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
2. There will be no looting tonight....
Sun Aug 17, 2014, 01:33 AM
Aug 2014

... unless they want to charge through police standing in front of the stores. At 12:10 am, Ferguson MO time, CNN blackout is over for time being and is showing the main staging area. It's pouring down rain and there are some peaceful protesters standing together at one end of the street. Can't tell how many.

Ruh roh... just seen the police line up changing positions. Wonder if they are going to instigate a problem?

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
17. Watched live feed and about 12:15 they said there were about 150 people still protesting at the site
Sun Aug 17, 2014, 10:47 AM
Aug 2014

where Mike was killed. After that they heard a message on dispatch that ordered the police to take them out. Then I lost the feed.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
28. We have to...
Sun Aug 17, 2014, 06:36 PM
Aug 2014

... "trust" the police when they estimated the number of protesters present, because they had the view blocked from the cameras. I heard numbers from "a few dozen" to "150". Trust, my ass, I don't trust any of them. I'm just thankful they didn't kill any of those people. They don't even want to kill any more people in Ferguson, because I think we know what would happen.

alp227

(32,019 posts)
3. WOW. Just heard on KMOX radio that there's tear gas fired. Crowd is running
Sun Aug 17, 2014, 01:50 AM
Aug 2014

Stream: http://player.radio.com/listen/station/newsradio-1120-kmox

or the Tunein app

or over the air on AM 1120 throughout the heartland of America, since KMOX is a 50 kW blowtorch.

progree

(10,904 posts)
4. THANKS! I don't have cable TV, so am glad of a way to follow live
Sun Aug 17, 2014, 01:57 AM
Aug 2014

instead of checking the news sites for article postings which seem to lag events by an hour or so at best.

littlemissmartypants

(22,634 posts)
6. Snip..
Sun Aug 17, 2014, 02:01 AM
Aug 2014
http://stlouis.cbslocal.com/2014/08/16/as-ferguson-curfew-approaches-protesters-disperse/
...
In announcing the curfew, Nixon said that though many protesters were making themselves heard peacefully, the state would not allow looters to endanger the community where 18-year-old Michael Brown was shot in a street.

“I am committed to making sure the forces of peace and justice prevail,” Nixon said during a press conference at a church that was interrupted repeatedly by people objecting to the curfew and demanding that the officer who shot Brown be charged with murder.

“We must first have and maintain peace. This is a test. The eyes of the world are watching,” Nixon said. “We cannot allow the ill will of the few to undermine the good will of the many.”
...

Love, Peace and the Righteous Fight.
~ Lmsp
 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
11. “I am committed to making sure the forces of peace and justice prevail,”
Sun Aug 17, 2014, 03:35 AM
Aug 2014

Right,...so get the cops out of there.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
8. 12:55 am, Ferguson time...
Sun Aug 17, 2014, 02:03 AM
Aug 2014

"Smoke and not teargas" being fired at a few dozen protesters. Police seem to be advancing. So many police, can't see protesters anymore. (Camera is behind police line, instead of up where they can actually see what's going on on the front line.) Stalemate, but I don't see any protesters.

progree

(10,904 posts)
9. 142 am CDT - Sounds like its been over for about an hour or more
Sun Aug 17, 2014, 02:44 AM
Aug 2014

Tear gas or smoke cannisters (there is no agreement on which it was) was used, and that, plus heavy rain, managed to disperse the crowd which was only 100 to 150 at the peak, per a couple of estimates. No looting of any kind all evening. Doesn't sound like any arrests or maybe one -- no agreement on that.

[font color = red]Edited 333a CDT: [/font] "the crowd was only 100 to 150 at the peak" -- oops, that was about how many stayed after midnight to defy the curfew. There were "hundreds" earlier in the evening. And police admitted to using both tear gas and smoke canisters.

http://news.yahoo.com/gov-declares-emergency-imposes-curfew-ferguson-205608712.html

And this from a tweet half an hour ago:

RT update from ABC: Highway patrol captain: 7 arrests made during engagement with protesters in Ferguson; 1 civilian shot during unrest.

See also post #13

rollin74

(1,973 posts)
13. shooting, several arrests reported after Ferguson curfew
Sun Aug 17, 2014, 04:30 AM
Aug 2014

Last edited Sun Aug 17, 2014, 05:36 AM - Edit history (1)

FERGUSON, Mo. (AP/ KMOV) -- Police said they fired multiple smoke canisters and at least one tear gas canister into a crowd of defiant protesters who gathered in Ferguson early Sunday as they responded to get to the scene of a reported shooting.

Captain Ron Johnson with the Missouri Highway Patrol said there was a shooting near the intersection of Canfield Drive and West Florissant. He said one protester shot another. The victim was listed in critical condition.

Johnson said seven people were arrested from the roof of the Red's BBQ restaurant on West Florissant.

http://www.kmov.com/special-coverage-001/271562561.html

rollin74

(1,973 posts)
14. video from Ferguson protest after the curfew (including shots fired)
Sun Aug 17, 2014, 06:09 AM
Aug 2014

Last edited Sun Aug 17, 2014, 12:55 PM - Edit history (1)

video is back up after having been pulled

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
16. That video has been pulled, makes me wonder why.
Sun Aug 17, 2014, 10:44 AM
Aug 2014

I did a search for the title:

"Shots fired at police car in Ferguson, police fire back"

....with interesting results including some stories that have similarly been pulled or deleted.

truth2power

(8,219 posts)
24. Could someone please tell me, if you know..
Sun Aug 17, 2014, 12:03 PM
Aug 2014

from the sound of it, was that officer firing rubber bullets or live ammo?

Maybe it's not possible to tell. I hope he wasn't firing live ammo.

rollin74

(1,973 posts)
26. according to people who were on scene...
Sun Aug 17, 2014, 02:29 PM
Aug 2014

it was live ammo being fired by someone

police say that a police car was shot at (presumably the patrol car in the video)

a person was hit by gunfire and critically wounded. it's unclear who fired the shots


that's all the information that I can find so far

truth2power

(8,219 posts)
27. thanks. i hope it wasn't the police. that's all we need,
Sun Aug 17, 2014, 03:37 PM
Aug 2014

some cop killing someone else.

Oops! Just saw downthread a report that a protestor was shot last night by police. Not dead, though.

rollin74

(1,973 posts)
23. found the exact same video. re-posted it above
Sun Aug 17, 2014, 11:56 AM
Aug 2014

I don't know why the previous one was "made private"

thanks for heads up about it not working

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
15. the looting
Sun Aug 17, 2014, 10:25 AM
Aug 2014

is self defeating and I will never condone or excuse something like that. Yet murder of unarmed kids and young males/females is the same.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
18. I don't think there was any looting last night - the police were protecting the stores like they
Sun Aug 17, 2014, 11:05 AM
Aug 2014

should have before. And you are absolutely correct - looting is self defeating. A non-violent protest must remain non-violent or it looses the moral high ground.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
20. yep
Sun Aug 17, 2014, 11:18 AM
Aug 2014

on edit: I think the social scientist(s) better get down to business and find out why this/these officially sanctioned murder(s), by state and local executioners and gun happy citizens of all stripes, is happening with more regularity. While I know racism is a key component/motivator, this society is extremely violence prone. Is it because of those sick, violent, bloody killing games these kids started playing in the late 80's-90's in video arcades and on PC's? Warcraft comes to mind immediately. Movies? Are gun happy psychopaths gunning down and beating innocent men and women of color and others taking away our surprise and indignation at these horrible incidents, thus the social inhibitors to restrain people are disappearing. Are psychiatric services that degraded that cops and psychopaths alike are slipping through the cracks to kill, again and again??

Something is wrong here and spectres of Rome falling into anarchy and chaos trouble my sleep.

Buffalo Springfield's song comes to mind. "for what it's worth'.

Iamthetruth

(487 posts)
29. It's frustrating to me
Sun Aug 17, 2014, 06:43 PM
Aug 2014

I want the truth to come out about the shooting but the looting pisses me off and I want those looters put in jail as well. I have worked hard in my past to help poor areas get certain types of retail, idiots like the looters make that task nearly impossible.

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
25. Things were calming down Thursday night. The Police Chief reignited them.
Sun Aug 17, 2014, 12:29 PM
Aug 2014

His move to release the Ferguson convenience store video over DOJ objection and without giving Highway Patrol a heads up shows it was a brazen move to undermine Highway Patrol Captain Ron Johnson. The Chief obviously only cared about defending Darren Wilson, he didn't give a shit about the affects on the community. In fact, he probably wanted the local rage he got. He was probably embarrassed by how much things had calmed down Thursday night after Captain Johnson took over. The Chief knew dam well Captain Johnson should have been the one to make the call regarding how the tape was released. Worse, it's ham-handed release may result in yet another death (a protester shot by police last night is in critical condition).

The Ferguson Police Chief should be fired.

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