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Judi Lynn

(160,527 posts)
Thu Aug 21, 2014, 03:52 PM Aug 2014

Rick Perry Says Terrorists Could Be Entering U.S. Along Mexico Border

Source: New York Times

Rick Perry Says Terrorists Could Be Entering U.S. Along Mexico Border
By EMMARIE HUETTEMAN
AUG. 21, 2014

WASHINGTON — Gov. Rick Perry, Republican of Texas, on Thursday raised the “very real possibility” that individuals affiliated with the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria and other terrorist groups have already slipped across the border as he made the case that border security was a pressing national security issue.

While Mr. Perry said that there was “no clear evidence” recruits from terrorist organizations had entered the United States illegally, he pointed to the number of violent crimes committed in recent years by illegal immigrants.

“I think there is the obvious, great concern that — because of the condition of the border from the standpoint of not being secure and us not knowing who is penetrating across — that individuals from ISIS or other terrorist states could be,” he said during a speech at the Heritage Foundation.

The speech came after Mr. Perry pleaded not guilty to two felony counts of abusing his power on Tuesday after being indicted by a grand jury last Friday, making him the first Texas governor to face criminal charges in nearly a century. Perry has called the charges a farce and is contemplating a second run for the Republican presidential nomination. He is scheduled to appear in New Hampshire this weekend.

Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/22/us/politics/rick-perry-says-terrorists-could-be-entering-us-along-mexico-border.html?_r=0

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Rick Perry Says Terrorists Could Be Entering U.S. Along Mexico Border (Original Post) Judi Lynn Aug 2014 OP
They're coming to get you, Rick. GeorgeGist Aug 2014 #1
ROFL, you made me laugh out loud! mdbl Aug 2014 #34
No sane terrorist would run the gauntlet through the northern Mexico border Xipe Totec Aug 2014 #2
They just beheaded a journalist donnasgirl Aug 2014 #4
You have absolutely no idea how bad it is down there Xipe Totec Aug 2014 #20
it's ben a very real possibilty since dickbush cheney made the same claim 11 years ago.. frylock Aug 2014 #32
Exactly. That point seems to escape the right dbackjon Aug 2014 #5
Excellent point. Louisiana1976 Aug 2014 #35
He's got a point. KamaAina Aug 2014 #3
First thing I've ever agreed with Rick Perry on... ballyhoo Aug 2014 #6
Lot of folks here think the southern border IS secure 7962 Aug 2014 #9
It wasn't secure even 47 years ago. I was on leave from ballyhoo Aug 2014 #17
I think that last sentence gives away part of your story!! 7962 Aug 2014 #23
Sorry, I was just out for a swim... ballyhoo Aug 2014 #26
That's what I've been saying for years underpants Aug 2014 #13
LOL. I was using Bigfoot as metaphorical hyperbole... ballyhoo Aug 2014 #18
That'll teach 'em. littlemissmartypants Aug 2014 #38
Course, everyone can take a joke here. You know I've read a lot ballyhoo Aug 2014 #43
And I thought you were comparing me to Bill Nye. littlemissmartypants Aug 2014 #44
Really...Night... ballyhoo Aug 2014 #45
He hopes. He just wants anything big to happen so he gets ignored Autumn Aug 2014 #7
And Goodhair can't carry a weapon anymore. Tsk, tsk. nt deminks Aug 2014 #8
Nice attempt flamingdem Aug 2014 #10
Exactly. Perry's fearmongering to divert attention from his legal problems. Louisiana1976 Aug 2014 #36
Attempting to mitigate. littlemissmartypants Aug 2014 #39
He could be right EileenFB Aug 2014 #11
Or it is possible that they are being carried here by the monkeys flying out of you butt underpants Aug 2014 #12
And they could be coming out of his arse Roland99 Aug 2014 #14
Its been well documented that Latino(s) and Latina(s) look just like Iliyah Aug 2014 #15
Paranoid blkmusclmachine Aug 2014 #16
Go get this guy, Gov. Perry! tanyev Aug 2014 #19
alKeefe underpants Aug 2014 #27
Yup! Perry enabled an American, but now international, terrorist to enter the USA! freshwest Aug 2014 #46
The Times repeated this drivel verbatim without even an "alleged"? starroute Aug 2014 #21
Scott Brown thinks they might be slipping into New Hampshire elias49 Aug 2014 #22
And we should pay for his one way ticket littlemissmartypants Aug 2014 #40
Terrorist...Takes one... SoapBox Aug 2014 #24
Martians too! Blue Idaho Aug 2014 #25
So could space aliens. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2014 #28
What about the terrorist already here? SummerSnow Aug 2014 #29
Got that right! They wanna take down the USA! freshwest Aug 2014 #47
What is different now than it was in 2001-2008, oh, yea, forgot, oh yea, now we have a Democrat Thinkingabout Aug 2014 #30
2003 called, ricky boy frylock Aug 2014 #31
. littlemissmartypants Aug 2014 #41
Shit, it is easier to land a boat on a secluded beach here in California and other parts mrdmk Aug 2014 #33
Cloned dinosaurs could be entering the US along the Mexico border Thor_MN Aug 2014 #37
He tasted a pie littlemissmartypants Aug 2014 #42
Why use the border when there's a much bigger gap you can go through? LloydS of New London Aug 2014 #48

Xipe Totec

(43,890 posts)
2. No sane terrorist would run the gauntlet through the northern Mexico border
Thu Aug 21, 2014, 03:59 PM
Aug 2014

And the crazy ones wouldn't survive.

Xipe Totec

(43,890 posts)
20. You have absolutely no idea how bad it is down there
Thu Aug 21, 2014, 05:55 PM
Aug 2014

Beheadings are an everyday occurrence.

Don't believe me? Follow this link

But be warned this is brutally graphic - four women beheaded on camera.

http://newobserveronline.com/los-zetas-beheadings-the-awful-reality-of-what-awaits-european-america-when-the-mexican-invasion-is-complete-warning-graphic-content/

Terrorists from other countries crossing through Mexico are more likely to end up as victims than most.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
32. it's ben a very real possibilty since dickbush cheney made the same claim 11 years ago..
Thu Aug 21, 2014, 07:16 PM
Aug 2014

hasn't come to fruition yet, has it?

 

dbackjon

(6,578 posts)
5. Exactly. That point seems to escape the right
Thu Aug 21, 2014, 04:04 PM
Aug 2014

A terrorist is going to come through Canada, land on a boat, or most likely, come LEGALLY on a tourist or student visa.


Why risk getting killed or captured on the Mexican border.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
3. He's got a point.
Thu Aug 21, 2014, 04:04 PM
Aug 2014

How do we know all these kids coming across are really Central American? I also heard they might be bringing Ebola with them.

 

ballyhoo

(2,060 posts)
6. First thing I've ever agreed with Rick Perry on...
Thu Aug 21, 2014, 04:05 PM
Aug 2014

Yep, that's where they'll come in...Probably all ready here to a limited extent. Bigfoot could sneak through our borders with Mexico.

 

ballyhoo

(2,060 posts)
17. It wasn't secure even 47 years ago. I was on leave from
Thu Aug 21, 2014, 05:19 PM
Aug 2014

Vietnam and was in Juarez looking for fun. I'd better not tell this story. Anyway, you could have brought a Bengal Tiger across the border into El Paso and introduced it as your sister and the guards would have just waved you on.

 

ballyhoo

(2,060 posts)
43. Course, everyone can take a joke here. You know I've read a lot
Thu Aug 21, 2014, 11:13 PM
Aug 2014

of your posts. You really are smart. The reason I asked you if that was your picture that you post with is that years ago I was an Extra on this tv show called Boston Public. There was this Russian woman that I would do a little bit part with that looked identical to that woman. I wonder if that was her. Oh, well...

littlemissmartypants

(22,656 posts)
44. And I thought you were comparing me to Bill Nye.
Thu Aug 21, 2014, 11:22 PM
Aug 2014

J/K

That is an advert pic for a costume. It could be her. Wouldn't that be cosmic?

Love, Peace and the Righteous Fight.
~ Lmsp

EileenFB

(360 posts)
11. He could be right
Thu Aug 21, 2014, 04:28 PM
Aug 2014

I mean, they could enter via Texas then head to Florida where they will take flight training classes with all that extra cash they will have at their disposal.

/sarcasm

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
15. Its been well documented that Latino(s) and Latina(s) look just like
Thu Aug 21, 2014, 04:47 PM
Aug 2014

those Muslim terrorists' who have learned Spanish, and these Muslim terrorist that look just like those dirty Mexicans who do easily slip through the boarders . . per a fellow religious right winger once told me.

Fear, paranoia, hatred - welcome to the GOP party.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
46. Yup! Perry enabled an American, but now international, terrorist to enter the USA!
Fri Aug 22, 2014, 01:15 AM
Aug 2014
Arrest Perry and that worthless sheriff for aiding and abetting O'Keefe!

starroute

(12,977 posts)
21. The Times repeated this drivel verbatim without even an "alleged"?
Thu Aug 21, 2014, 06:02 PM
Aug 2014

Why do they write "raise the 'very real possibility'" instead of "what he alleged was a 'very real possibility.'"

Why "as he made the case" instead of "as he attempted to make a case."

Why "pointed to the number of violent crimes" -- without saying what the number is or whether it's significant -- and follow Perry's non sequitur of using that as supporting evidence for terrorists entering the US illegally.

Why repeat Perry's absence-of-evidence argument without question?

Why write "a speech at the Heritage Foundation" without identifying Heritage as an ultra-right-wing organization.

This is journalistic stenography of the worst kind -- comparable to the Times reporting the fake plagiarism accusations again Rick Perlstein without question -- and I'm getting really tired of it.

 

elias49

(4,259 posts)
22. Scott Brown thinks they might be slipping into New Hampshire
Thu Aug 21, 2014, 06:11 PM
Aug 2014

according to his latest TV ad on local NH TV.

'Islamists are crossing the border because Jeanne Shaheen 'voted against border security'"

Idiot.

Blue Idaho

(5,049 posts)
25. Martians too!
Thu Aug 21, 2014, 06:54 PM
Aug 2014

Why stop there? I'm thinking Martians riding on the backs of T Rex followed by a school of great white sharks infected with small pox are paving the way for the anti-christ himself crossing our border to pick up a happy meal at McDonalds...

Could happen...

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
28. So could space aliens.
Thu Aug 21, 2014, 07:02 PM
Aug 2014

There's basically no realistic way to completely 'secure' a border, which is exactly why Republicans demand it as a precursor to any sort of immigration reform. It's undoable. Drug runners routinely make it across the border, so sure, they could smuggle in terrorists, too.

As to violent crimes by illegals, are they proportional to violent crimes committed on a per capita basis by folks born here? Are there any statistics that show that people who actually cross the border to stay (not simply drug runners, who go back and forth) are committing crimes at a greater rate than native-born Americans? If anything, I'd think that they A) commit fewer crimes, since they can't afford to be caught and deported, and B) are more often the VICTIMS of crimes committed by American criminals, for the same reason - they can't afford to go to the police when victimized.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
30. What is different now than it was in 2001-2008, oh, yea, forgot, oh yea, now we have a Democrat
Thu Aug 21, 2014, 07:11 PM
Aug 2014

President. The borders has been open in my life

mrdmk

(2,943 posts)
33. Shit, it is easier to land a boat on a secluded beach here in California and other parts
Thu Aug 21, 2014, 07:21 PM
Aug 2014

of the nation, than to walk across the damm desert.

Gov. Perry needs to learn his illegal (drug) import routes before opening his big mouth.

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
37. Cloned dinosaurs could be entering the US along the Mexico border
Thu Aug 21, 2014, 10:43 PM
Aug 2014

although I think that Perry could be entering a prison too...

littlemissmartypants

(22,656 posts)
42. He tasted a pie
Thu Aug 21, 2014, 11:11 PM
Aug 2014


Of feminist justice. Right in the face.

Women are coming.

#FJL

Love, Peace and the Righteous Fight.
Lmsp
 
48. Why use the border when there's a much bigger gap you can go through?
Fri Aug 22, 2014, 02:31 AM
Aug 2014

Specifically, the one between Rick Perry's ears.

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