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Galraedia

(5,025 posts)
Tue Aug 26, 2014, 08:33 PM Aug 2014

China Will Sell HJ-12 Missiles That Can Destroy America’s Best Tanks

Source: Epoch Times

The Chinese regime is putting the finishing touches on its new HJ-12 anti-tank missiles. Its soldiers will be toting around the new weapons, which can destroy modern third-generation tanks, and China is also planning to sell the portable missile systems.

The HJ-12 is an anti-tank weapon. It’s able to target tanks close to 2.5 miles away, according to China Daily, the English edition of China’s state-owned People’s Daily.

China’s previous-generation anti-tank weapons have shown up in the hands of rebel groups around the world, including with ISIS. The video below shows Islamic combatants, allegedly with ISIS, firing a Chinese-made HJ-8 anti-tank missile at a Syrian tank.

Among the tanks the new weapon could allegedly destroy are America’s M1 Abrams, Russia’s T-90, and Japan’s Type 90 Kyū-maru. The modern, third-generation tanks were beyond the destructive capabilities of most troop-carried anti-tank weapons, but China’s new HJ-12 aims to change that.

Read more: http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/913838-chinas-new-anti-tank-weapons-could-end-up-in-isis-hands-videos/

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China Will Sell HJ-12 Missiles That Can Destroy America’s Best Tanks (Original Post) Galraedia Aug 2014 OP
Tank warfare really ended with the Cold War SCVDem Aug 2014 #1
I was about to say something similar... Blue_Tires Aug 2014 #17
I think Russia's best tanks are more of threat to China than America's best tanks bhikkhu Aug 2014 #2
Nice to know our jobs, training and trillions of investment is paying off well for the Chinese, whereisjustice Aug 2014 #3
My view also. JDPriestly Aug 2014 #11
! City Lights Sep 2014 #22
We sell our deadly shit, they sell their deadly shit, the deadly shit gets around. Warren Stupidity Aug 2014 #4
Tanks exist to overcome trenches and barbed wire. Have you noticed a lot of trenches and barbed wire LeftyMom Aug 2014 #5
That was their purpose in WW1 but in WW2 they were used to strike deep in the enemy rear to take neverforget Aug 2014 #8
I don't know, they seemed to be used to devastating effect in Iraq's population centers Ash_F Aug 2014 #10
While in some dark little garage, somewhere in the world, a few dedicated, smart, and funded people jtuck004 Aug 2014 #6
Well ain't they sweethearts. Owl Aug 2014 #7
Can they sell some to us city dwellers so we can fight our local police forces? Moonwalk Aug 2014 #9
Available at a gun show near you! harun Aug 2014 #15
Really? steelsmith Sep 2014 #20
No, I was kidding. harun Sep 2014 #23
Hardly a surprise Sherman A1 Aug 2014 #12
Israel has already fielded an anti- missile system for tanks. Nt hack89 Aug 2014 #13
Presuming of course that the missiles live up to the advertising Lurks Often Aug 2014 #14
What, no freeze ray? Kennah Aug 2014 #16
They've learned the rules of conscienceless capitalism well LloydS of New London Aug 2014 #18
yeah, but they are made in China olddad56 Aug 2014 #19
We must build more tanks! DavidDvorkin Sep 2014 #21
 

SCVDem

(5,103 posts)
1. Tank warfare really ended with the Cold War
Tue Aug 26, 2014, 08:38 PM
Aug 2014

These days tanks are produced just for the jobs in a district. They have been replaced by aircraft both manned and unmanned.

Bring home the pork, but tanks are really obsolete!

Sorry tankers!

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
17. I was about to say something similar...
Thu Aug 28, 2014, 12:55 AM
Aug 2014

Armored warfare has gone the romantic way of wind-powered naval battles...

bhikkhu

(10,716 posts)
2. I think Russia's best tanks are more of threat to China than America's best tanks
Tue Aug 26, 2014, 08:55 PM
Aug 2014

...pretty remote in either case, but the sort of thing that keeps defence contractors happy, and gives idle military strategist something to do with their time.

whereisjustice

(2,941 posts)
3. Nice to know our jobs, training and trillions of investment is paying off well for the Chinese,
Tue Aug 26, 2014, 08:56 PM
Aug 2014

maybe we if we send trillions more worth of jobs, training and technology to China, they'll promise not to use it against us~!

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
4. We sell our deadly shit, they sell their deadly shit, the deadly shit gets around.
Tue Aug 26, 2014, 09:23 PM
Aug 2014

A policy of perpetual global military hegemony is a policy doomed to failure.

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
5. Tanks exist to overcome trenches and barbed wire. Have you noticed a lot of trenches and barbed wire
Tue Aug 26, 2014, 09:31 PM
Aug 2014

in footage of recent wars?

If China's making it easier for us to quit wasting money we borrow from them on tanks we don't need, then we owe them a solid because that's good for the US.

neverforget

(9,436 posts)
8. That was their purpose in WW1 but in WW2 they were used to strike deep in the enemy rear to take
Tue Aug 26, 2014, 10:37 PM
Aug 2014

and hold ground. The same can be said of The Gulf War in 1991 and the Iraq War. During the occupation, they were used more for fire support for the infantry taking out insurgent strong points than for fighting other tanks.

(Not making a judgement call on the use of tanks today just pointing out that their use evolved since their invention in WW1.)

Ash_F

(5,861 posts)
10. I don't know, they seemed to be used to devastating effect in Iraq's population centers
Tue Aug 26, 2014, 11:51 PM
Aug 2014

during the occupation.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
6. While in some dark little garage, somewhere in the world, a few dedicated, smart, and funded people
Tue Aug 26, 2014, 10:10 PM
Aug 2014

are bent over microscopes staring at an itty, witty, bitty little virus, lovingly teaching it to do their will. If they are successful the virus will leave all those weapons sitting in a field, because hundreds of thousands of people will be dead while the ones who are left are dying or too terrified of the itty, witty, bitty virus to climb up on the guns and shoot at each other, maybe before we make the planet uninhabitable with our climate changing ways.

Either way, those weapons will look so small then. Peace of a sort, but still, no winners.

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
12. Hardly a surprise
Wed Aug 27, 2014, 05:34 AM
Aug 2014

probably long overdue, warfare has always been a game of one-upmanship between protection and weaponry. The 3rd generation tanks such as the M1 have been on top for a long time, I am sure that some adjustments will be made to render these new anti-tank missiles less effective and then the game will continue on as it always has.

 

Lurks Often

(5,455 posts)
14. Presuming of course that the missiles live up to the advertising
Wed Aug 27, 2014, 09:45 AM
Aug 2014

It's a very old, ongoing battle between the ability to penetrate armor and the ability to improve armor.

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