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MindMover

(5,016 posts)
Mon Apr 2, 2012, 05:34 PM Apr 2012

Memories Are Shown to Reside in Just a Small Number of Brain Cells

Source: The Atlantic

Researchers at RIKEN-MIT Center for Neural Circuit Genetics, with help from Stanford's optogenetics guru Karl Deisseroth, have shown that individual memories reside in a very small number of brain cells. Activating just a few cells responsible for holding onto specific memories can bring back rather complex recollections, a finding that may help lead to interventional treatments for conditions like post traumatic stress disorder.

The researchers performed their experiments on mice who were conditioned to fear a certain environment they found themselves in. After identifying where in the brain that fear resided, they were able to use light, thanks to optogenetics, to activate small groups of cells and bring back the fear even though the environment was not fear-inducing.

Some details from MIT's announcement:

Read more: http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2012/04/memories-are-shown-to-reside-in-just-a-small-number-of-brain-cells/255086/



I have the fewest of these cells......
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Memories Are Shown to Reside in Just a Small Number of Brain Cells (Original Post) MindMover Apr 2012 OP
Maybe they can erase my childhood. Kingofalldems Apr 2012 #1
I'm sorry. yardwork Apr 2012 #2
Thanks. Kingofalldems Apr 2012 #16
I'm sorry too. Wish they could find a way to delete the memories you don't want. nt raccoon Apr 2012 #14
Thank you. Me too. Kingofalldems Apr 2012 #17
'I have the fewest of these cells...' Nah, it's a blessing. I've seen too much evil shit in my life. freshwest Apr 2012 #3
Not to be outdone... izquierdista Apr 2012 #4
I love anything to do with Carlin....have all his material... MindMover Apr 2012 #6
No wonder I am so forgetful. DCBob Apr 2012 #5
I wish mine weren't damaged. sakabatou Apr 2012 #7
Isn't that how propaganda works? nt valerief Apr 2012 #8
K&R! Fascinating article! Rhiannon12866 Apr 2012 #9
It's neither, but more just another sharp knife in the tool cabinet nolabels Apr 2012 #12
? Could be developed into a new way to torture? webDude Apr 2012 #10
The article doesn't really justify Liu's claim, but this is nothing unusual saras Apr 2012 #11
I think you're on to something there. sofa king Apr 2012 #13
In a recent test, it was found that republicans possessed the fewest of these cells. Javaman Apr 2012 #15
approx. 30% of the country? Rosa Luxemburg Apr 2012 #19
It's the connections that matter, and they change. nt bemildred Apr 2012 #18

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
3. 'I have the fewest of these cells...' Nah, it's a blessing. I've seen too much evil shit in my life.
Mon Apr 2, 2012, 06:20 PM
Apr 2012

Remember the old United Negro College Fund ad?

'A mind is a terrible thing to waste.'

Sometimes a mind is a terrible thing to have.

EFT is being used for some soldiers with PTSD.

 

izquierdista

(11,689 posts)
4. Not to be outdone...
Mon Apr 2, 2012, 06:28 PM
Apr 2012

The Vatican has announced that the Center for Prayer Therapy has shown that saying just a few prayers can absolve the memory of rather complex sins, a finding that may help lead to interventional prayers for conditions like post traumatic stress disorder.

The research priests developed their new prayers from revelations given them by the Holy Father and in consultation with Church dogma. After identifying the specific locus of fear in the soul, they were able to use imprecatory prayer to activate venial sins and bring back the fear, even though absolution had been granted.

Some details from the Vatican's announcement:

MindMover

(5,016 posts)
6. I love anything to do with Carlin....have all his material...
Mon Apr 2, 2012, 06:58 PM
Apr 2012

and have written many jokes from it.......

nolabels

(13,133 posts)
12. It's neither, but more just another sharp knife in the tool cabinet
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 06:20 AM
Apr 2012

A very sharp one to be sure but it's more on how you use it than what it can do with it.
My thinking is that a persons intent and living in reality are just as important

As a background on this observation, I have been a mechanic for 34 yrs and many things things look like some kind of tool to me

 

saras

(6,670 posts)
11. The article doesn't really justify Liu's claim, but this is nothing unusual
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 02:55 AM
Apr 2012

It's not at all clear that all of this processing is direct storage and not pointers to storage elsewhere (or something more complex - my understanding is that memories of events may be stored as separate parts and not as "events&quot . The experiment may offer more detail, but the way the article reads, Liu is just going farther than his data justifies, possibly slitting his own throat with Occam's Razor.

"Showing that the reactivation of those nerve cells that were active during learning can reproduce the learned behavior is surely a milestone."
Well, no. It's actually quite old knowledge.

Is there a limit to how much a single cell can hold? Can we trade up from 20mb to terabyte cells? Or would we need a whole new OS?

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
13. I think you're on to something there.
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 07:39 AM
Apr 2012

My computer has a comparatively small File Allocation Table that is in near-constant use, which lights up every time my computer's "memories" are accessed, and yet it is comparatively small and contains little data other than the location on the disk of all the other files.

But the FAT isn't the main memory bank of the computer, it does not store all of the computer's information, it only stores that information's location. I would not be surprised to learn that our location-based brains work along similar lines.

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