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onehandle

(51,122 posts)
Mon Apr 2, 2012, 07:32 PM Apr 2012

Barack Obama Confident That Supreme Court Will Let His Health Care Law Stand

Source: Huffington Post

WASHINGTON -- President Barack Obama offered his first public comments on the Supreme Court's hearing of his signature health care law, telling reporters that he believed the court will rule that it is constitutional.

Appearing at a press conference in the Rose Garden alongside Prime Minster Stephen Harper of Canada and President Felipe Calderon of Mexico, Obama explained that he was confident the Affordable Care Act would be upheld for a series of reasons. First and foremost, he made the case that precedent was on his side, noting that two staunchly conservative lower court justices had agreed that penalizing people who didn't purchase insurance coverage was within Congress' power under the commerce clause.

Secondly, the president underscored the issues that would arise from repealing the legislative components of the law that had already been implemented. He noted that millions of children have been given insurance coverage under the law, that changes have been made to Medicare's prescription drug program and that insurance industry reforms have already been put in place.

"This is not an abstract argument," he declared. "People's lives are affected by the lack of availability of health care, the in-affordability of health care, their inability to get health car because of pre-existing conditions ... I think the American people understand and I think that the justices should understand that in the absence of the individual mandate, you cannot have a mechanism to insure that people with preexisting conditions can actually get health care."

Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/02/barack-obama-supreme-court-health-care_n_1397548.html

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Barack Obama Confident That Supreme Court Will Let His Health Care Law Stand (Original Post) onehandle Apr 2012 OP
They better. Especially in an election year... ahem... ahem. Fearless Apr 2012 #1
I hope he's right..... vi5 Apr 2012 #2
Totally Phlem Apr 2012 #8
Still clueless after all these years..... Confusious Apr 2012 #3
Well That's a Good Thing... Grassy Knoll Apr 2012 #4
I have no faith in Iliyah Apr 2012 #5
I will be gobsmacked if they let it stand. Arugula Latte Apr 2012 #6
I'm sure he's referring to Citizen's United shawn703 Apr 2012 #7
He's more confident than I am Prophet 451 Apr 2012 #9
Interesting point of views on this subject JayhawkSD Apr 2012 #10
this is the same supreme court that just allowed strip searches for minor traffic offenses... Javaman Apr 2012 #11
if they repeal the individual mandate greymattermom Apr 2012 #12
The privatization of Social Security sank with Bush's last attempt. n/t JayhawkSD Apr 2012 #13
I'm afraid your underestimating the situation. Phlem Apr 2012 #15
it will return greymattermom Apr 2012 #16
He continues to appear clueless Doctor_J Apr 2012 #14
interesting strategy greymattermom Apr 2012 #17
Yes we've been hearing for 20 years how America is "onto" the bully tactics of the right Doctor_J Apr 2012 #18
 

vi5

(13,305 posts)
2. I hope he's right.....
Mon Apr 2, 2012, 07:57 PM
Apr 2012

But keep in mind this is the same person that still seems to think that bipartisanship is possible and still thinks he can negotiate with Republicans.

Phlem

(6,323 posts)
8. Totally
Mon Apr 2, 2012, 10:45 PM
Apr 2012

Were you present when he gave his acceptance speech live?

I remember clearly and as soon as he said bipartisanship my heart sank.

I don't get why people can still believe a bipartisanship solution is a reality with republicans.

I've grown up around them and am still surrounded by them at this ripe old age and I still completely believe it's impossible.

More now than then.

-p

Confusious

(8,317 posts)
3. Still clueless after all these years.....
Mon Apr 2, 2012, 09:09 PM
Apr 2012

We all have our blind spots... his seems to be in understanding how rotten these Repugs are.

Grassy Knoll

(10,118 posts)
4. Well That's a Good Thing...
Mon Apr 2, 2012, 09:11 PM
Apr 2012

I wouldn't want him to give up hope, like Bush did
trying to find Bin Laden.
(Troll Wave)

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
5. I have no faith in
Mon Apr 2, 2012, 09:12 PM
Apr 2012

the 5 conservatives aka tea brats. They support the corporations not the American public.

shawn703

(2,702 posts)
7. I'm sure he's referring to Citizen's United
Mon Apr 2, 2012, 10:14 PM
Apr 2012

When he's talking about how confident he is in this SCOTUS to do what they are suppose to do.

Oh wait...

Prophet 451

(9,796 posts)
9. He's more confident than I am
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 01:17 AM
Apr 2012

The SCOTUS is now an entirely politicised body whose majority no longer give a fuck about the law (and Scalia barely even pretends to). Disregarding the law (as they certainly will), the decision before teh court is whether to hand the insurance companies 30 million customers or whether to hand Obama a big loss in an election year. Since SCOTUS judges don't have to worry about being elected, I strongly suspect they'll come down on the latter side and strike down the mandate and probably the whole law.

And then, after the election, some right-wing body will argue that Medicaid and Medicare are unconstitutional as well and we'll see the 5-member majority agree that yes, they are.

Think it can't happen? Citizen's United was supposed to be a narrow decision about whether a video counted as "electioneering material". We're down the rabbit hole now and the only realistic hope of a reprieve is to pray for the death of one or more conservatives on the court.

 

JayhawkSD

(3,163 posts)
10. Interesting point of views on this subject
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 01:25 AM
Apr 2012

First let me say that I voted for Obama and still support him, and that I favor health care reform. I do not want the Supreme Court to overturn anything. That being said...

I recall a few years back when Republicans were objecting to various court rulings, gay marriage for instance, and they referred to "activist judges" and "judicial activism" and we all cried foul. We said that they were just sore losers and that the judges were just doing their jobs, and that the laws was interpreted correctly by these judges.

Now we have Obama saying that if the law that he signed into being is overturned that it would be "judicial activism or a lack of judicial restraint; that an unelected group of people would somehow overturn a duly constituted and passed law," and our response is to cheer and be delighted that he is going to fight the Supreme Court.

What is the difference between the two instances? Why do we cry foul at an argument made by the other side and cheer when the same argument is made by our side? Merely because we like the one judicial decision and dislike the other? Isn't that a little bit sanctimonious?

Javaman

(62,521 posts)
11. this is the same supreme court that just allowed strip searches for minor traffic offenses...
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 09:02 AM
Apr 2012

and Obama is confident his health care reform will stand?

I'll have what he's drinking.

greymattermom

(5,754 posts)
12. if they repeal the individual mandate
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 09:14 AM
Apr 2012

then how could they argue that people should be forced to buy private stock accounts instead of contributing to social security? Wouldn't that ruling preclude one of the future dreams of the wall street crowd?

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
14. He continues to appear clueless
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 11:33 AM
Apr 2012

It's strange - the president seems completely out to lunch with respect to how corrupt, vindictive, partisan, anti-American, and downright evil the Republicans are (every last one of them). Seriously, what's up with that? They're battling with all their might to destroy him, and his response is, "I am sure they'll do the right thing".

greymattermom

(5,754 posts)
17. interesting strategy
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 02:35 PM
Apr 2012

they will eventually look like total bullies. He has surrogates to fight for him, but they already look like schoolyard bullies, and the less he fights back the worse they get. Now all women, Hispanics, African Americans, young people, see what's going on. Only old fat white men are left.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
18. Yes we've been hearing for 20 years how America is "onto" the bully tactics of the right
Tue Apr 3, 2012, 02:57 PM
Apr 2012

The result is that we're practically a full-blown fascist state, with no one even bothering to fight. But hey - if it helps you sleep to tell yourself that everyone except a tiny minority is now on the side of good, god bless you. Ignorance is, after all, bliss. OTOH Romney is within a few % points of Obama for that office, and the far right will capture more house seats and Governorships this fall. At some point your rationalization will be overcome by reality, and it will be far to late to do anything.

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