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Judi Lynn

(160,527 posts)
Tue Oct 7, 2014, 05:51 PM Oct 2014

Survivor of Mexico Student Massacre: 'It Was Terrifying'

Source: NBC News

Survivor of Mexico Student Massacre: 'It Was Terrifying'
By Ioan Grillo, GlobalPost
11 hours

TIXTLA, Mexico — As the bullets crackled in the air and police bundled students into the backs of police cars, Eusebio ran with all his strength.

Shots were being fired at those trying to escape, but Eusebio was afraid of being taken by the officers, who were accompanied by men in plainclothes with rifles.

“It was terrifying but I just wanted to get away. I had a bad feeling about these police,” says Eusebio, a 19-year-old student at a university for rural schoolteachers in Tixtla, in southern Guerrero state.

That feeling likely saved Eusebio’s life. On Sunday, Guerrero State Prosecutor Iñaky Blanco said alleged drug cartel assassins confessed they’d worked with police to murder detained students late last month. The suspects also led officials from the prosecutor's office to pits where 28 charred bodies were found.


Read more: http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/survivor-mexico-student-massacre-it-was-terrifying-n219911

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Survivor of Mexico Student Massacre: 'It Was Terrifying' (Original Post) Judi Lynn Oct 2014 OP
What's wrong with Mexico? tabasco Oct 2014 #1
Total corruption. Nt Sienna86 Oct 2014 #2
And the US media have been complicit JimDandy Oct 2014 #4
Very little that happens here in mexico makes it into the media here or in the us. Guaguacoa Oct 2014 #17
Too far away from God, too close to the United States. nt Xipe Totec Oct 2014 #3
Not seeing student mass murders in Canada tabasco Oct 2014 #5
You can ASSume anything you wish. nt Xipe Totec Oct 2014 #14
That quote regarding Mexico has always seemed so intensely true, considering! Thanks. n/t Judi Lynn Oct 2014 #15
The US War on Drugs Warpy Oct 2014 #6
I can't believe people still say this. They are far beyond just drugs here, Guaguacoa Oct 2014 #18
I noticed things south of the border got a lot more violent Warpy Oct 2014 #20
LMAO, it doesn't matter what's locked up here. Guaguacoa Oct 2014 #21
This is just incomprehensible. The outright MURDER of young people ....the mind staggers. WinkyDink Oct 2014 #7
Give it a few more years.... HoosierCowboy Oct 2014 #8
Thanks, Judi Lynn. littlemissmartypants Oct 2014 #9
When I first heard about this story yesterday.... ReRe Oct 2014 #10
Mexico gov't gives another version of army slaying Judi Lynn Oct 2014 #11
there is lots to this story, we are not being told... quadrature Oct 2014 #12
Why do you put the word students in quotations? tkmorris Oct 2014 #13
Maybe you think you know Guaguacoa Oct 2014 #16
While the students stole the buses JimDandy Oct 2014 #19

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
4. And the US media have been complicit
Tue Oct 7, 2014, 06:20 PM
Oct 2014

by seldom reporting on this countrywide government corruption happening down in our southern-border neighbor.

Oaxaca citizens, for one, have been screaming their heads off to little effect here in the U.S.

Guaguacoa

(271 posts)
17. Very little that happens here in mexico makes it into the media here or in the us.
Thu Oct 9, 2014, 10:20 AM
Oct 2014

It's not just the us media, many in the us still claim the us is just as bad as here. I cam remember when you would get slammed on this forum for talking about what is happening here.

Pri especially closes down the media. Women are raped regularly on the busses here in toluca but it seldom makes the media.

Warpy

(111,256 posts)
6. The US War on Drugs
Tue Oct 7, 2014, 06:33 PM
Oct 2014

it's what's "wrong" with a lot of places in this hemisphere.

Take the money out of it and defund the gangs, reduce corruption among the cops.

Make it cheap and legal.

Guaguacoa

(271 posts)
18. I can't believe people still say this. They are far beyond just drugs here,
Thu Oct 9, 2014, 10:32 AM
Oct 2014

I know of 2 business owners personally (in toluca) that have sent their family members to the us because of constant attempts to kidnap them. Here in mexico state were valle de bravo is, it's where those with money from mexico city go on weekends, it used to be off limits to narcos. Now kidnapping is skyrocketing. Extortion, kidnapping, illegal immigration, human trafficking, etc. The US open door immigration policy has caused them to agressively seek people to send there (for money of course) especially from central america. They charge them to get them there then they contact their families and ask for more money or they will kill them. The best thing the us could do to help is seal the border, but that won't happen. One party wants the drugs and both parties wants the illegal workers.

There's no way they will go back to working for 5.00 a day us just because drugs in the us are legalized. The other areas they are in they will just ratchet up and also in the us even more than they are now. If anythings they are not strong in the us they are wrong. Legalizing drugs would only make the druggies in the us happy, I don't care if you do it or not, but it's no way reality to think these guys would quit and go home.

Warpy

(111,256 posts)
20. I noticed things south of the border got a lot more violent
Thu Oct 9, 2014, 04:16 PM
Oct 2014

as soon as the law forced the grocery stores and drug stores to keep the Sudafed locked up. Meth cookers south of the border could order it in bulk and as soon as big time meth production hit Mexico, things got insanely violent there.

Prohibition has to be dropped everywhere and the prices brought below anything the black market can do. Yes, it tends to break up the gangs. No, it doesn't break them completely for a long time because they turn to other illegal activities for which there is a thriving black market, but they will be a lot poorer and less glamorous and have less popular support.

We know it's the case because that's what happened when alcohol prohibition was ended here.

We lost the war on drugs, the drugs won as they will always do. The best we can do is make them safe and legal and develop an infrastructure to help people who run into trouble with them and want to quit.

Guaguacoa

(271 posts)
21. LMAO, it doesn't matter what's locked up here.
Thu Oct 9, 2014, 04:39 PM
Oct 2014

Full automatic weapons, grenades and rocket launchers are locked up here also and they are the weapons of choice here by narcos. Not semi auto's from the US, but from our police, military and those of countries south of us. There is not such thing as locked up here as the narcos have control in the military, police and politics. These laws have no effect whatsoever on the narcos. It got reported more while pan had the presidency, pri keeps everything under cover. Here pri is called the narcogobierno.

Making drugs legal will only have an effect there, not here. In places where mj is legal it's not cheap, nor will it ever be. Alcohol is taxed heavily and so would mj be, it will never be cheap enough for the narcos here to not get rich still. Looking at it any other way is looking at it through stoned eyes.

littlemissmartypants

(22,656 posts)
9. Thanks, Judi Lynn.
Tue Oct 7, 2014, 07:20 PM
Oct 2014

These stories must be heard. How fortunate to be left to tell and yet how sad. Hopefully survivors guilt will not get the best of this victim of corruption and violence.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
10. When I first heard about this story yesterday....
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 02:49 AM
Oct 2014

... I wondered "What in the hell is going on in Mexico?" Day after day, more bad news.

Judi Lynn

(160,527 posts)
11. Mexico gov't gives another version of army slaying
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 03:09 AM
Oct 2014

Mexico gov't gives another version of army slaying
By E. EDUARDO CASTILLO
Associated Press
October 7, 2014 Updated 2 hours ago

MEXICO CITY — The Mexican government is giving yet another version of what happened when soldiers killed 22 suspected gang members at a warehouse in rural southern Mexico last June.

Attorney General Jesus Murillo Karam said late Tuesday there were two gunbattles in the town of San Pedro Limon that left the majority of the suspects either wounded or dead. He said three soldiers entered the warehouse afterward and killed those who were still alive. The three will be charged with homicide, he said. A total of seven soldiers and a lieutenant are being prosecuted in the military justice system for dereliction of duty.

The latest version was corroborated by a witness, Murillo Karam said, even though she previously told The Associated Press and Esquire in separate interviews that only one person died in the firefight and 21 were killed after they had surrendered.

The witness, who told the AP that she watched as soldiers killed her wounded 15-year-old daughter, could not be reached for comment late Tuesday. She has spoken on condition of anonymity for fear of reprisals.

The story of what happened in the warehouse has taken many turns over the last three months, including the fact that federal prosecutors didn't investigate the scene until mid-September or interview a key witness until Tuesday.

More:
http://www.centredaily.com/2014/10/07/4393122_mexico-govt-gives-another-version.html?rh=1#storylink=cpy


 

quadrature

(2,049 posts)
12. there is lots to this story, we are not being told...
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 03:19 AM
Oct 2014

or at least, that is what I believe.

Perhaps the
'''''students'''''
pissed somebody off.

Or maybe the
'''''students'''''
went into competition
with a criminal or police business

Guaguacoa

(271 posts)
16. Maybe you think you know
Thu Oct 9, 2014, 10:16 AM
Oct 2014

Last edited Fri Oct 10, 2014, 01:32 PM - Edit history (1)

something we here in mexico do not know? These were student teachers protesting and they were from Ayotzinapa Teacher Training College.

It seems very US like to blame the victims, especially those greasy corrupt mexican's. Fricken jerk.

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
19. While the students stole the buses
Thu Oct 9, 2014, 11:17 AM
Oct 2014

and have said that commandeering buses to transport protesters is common and tolerated across Mexico, because the students always return them, it may have pissed off someone in this particular town. I can't understand though why the police, after successfully stopping the stolen buses, then opened fire on everyone. Mass murdering almost 50 people for riding on stolen buses is sick.

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