Belarus: Football fans jailed for anti-Putin chant
Source: BBC
A court in the Belarusian capital Minsk has jailed eight Ukrainian football fans after they sang an insulting song about Russian President Vladimir Putin.
One man was sent to prison for 10 days for possessing fascist symbols. Seven others were jailed for five days for using obscene language.
They had joined in anti-Putin chants and songs at the Euro 2016 qualifier between Ukraine and Belarus.
A number of Belarusian fans were also convicted and fined.
Both local and visiting fans at the Euro 2016 qualifier between Ukraine and Belarus in Borisov came together in a rousing rendition of a well-known song - which has became a popular expression of opposition to Putin in Ukraine, the Belarusian paper Nasha Niva reports.
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Iamthetruth
(487 posts)Your words insult the real football.
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)Iamthetruth
(487 posts)But this is America, the best country in the world and it's called football here.
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)Best country in the world? You haven't traveled much have you?
Iamthetruth
(487 posts)Please list to me a better country.
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)You must be one of those "My country, right or wrong"ers.
By the way do you know the full quote of the above?
Iamthetruth
(487 posts)List the reasons why you believe they are better countries?
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)Let's see you come up with actual reasons instead of "America is the greatest country in the world"
nomorenomore08
(13,324 posts)and starve on the street?
daleo
(21,317 posts)The NFL won't even have to change initials.
Brickbat
(19,339 posts)cprise
(8,445 posts)https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=es&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.larepublica.es%2F2014%2F10%2Fagresion-neonazi-en-la-universidad-complutense-de-madrid%2F&edit-text=
If there was more to the Belarus fracas than anti-Putin slogans, I doubt the BBC would mention it. Their recent history leans firmly to the right, and their foreign reporting is government-funded (i.e. state media).
whereisjustice
(2,941 posts)This week, U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton gave a major address calling for internet freedom around the world. As Clinton condemned the Egyptian and Iranian governments for arresting and beating protesters, former U.S. Army and CIA officer Ray McGovern was violently ejected from the audience and arrested after he stood up and turned his back in a silent protest of Americas foreign policy. Ray McGovern joins us from Washington, D.C.
http://www.democracynow.org/2011/2/18/ex_cia_analyst_ray_mcgovern_beaten
For the record, it sucks just as bad when we do it.
Mister Nightowl
(396 posts)Igel
(35,304 posts)Lukashenka refuses to acknowledge the DNR and LNR as legitimate. He also has problems with Crimea's status. And a lot of the economic nonsense Russia's been doing with Ukraine for the last number of years.
At the same time, Belarusian is a threatened language because under Soviet rule Russian was more and more important and pushed Belarusian aside. Exactly what would have happened in Ukraine if not for the parts of Ukraine not under Stalin's rule for the first decade or so and if not for the "fascist nationalists" that wanted to preserve their language and culture. (This, of course, makes a lot of Latino activists "fascists" and a lot of Native American groups "fascist".) Belarusian is often taught like French is in the US: Yeah, you take a year or two of it, but it's not a language you (a) speak, (b) remember, (c) care about.
A lot of Belarusians are pro-Russia and are "Russian speaking". That, as far as Putin is concerned, makes them people that he is personally responsible for and in charge of.
Worse, Belarus was Russian imperial territory. Smolensk was one of the Kievan Rus' cities. Large parts of the country weren't in the province of Belorussia under the tsars. All the business about "Novorossiya" being properly part of Russia holds even more true for large parts of Belarus'. (I suspect that Lukashenka would also be anxious in that while Germany from time to time makes noises about how improper the loss of Czech and Polish territory was, and some countries like Hungary have made noises about territory given to Ukraine, Poland could say the same thing about a large strip of Polish territory now part of Belarus'. Post-WWII "reparations" to Stalin included territory and people.)
And, unlike Ukraine, Belarus' has Russian troops stationed on it. With less of a separate Belarusian army than even Ukraine had.