Obama will name Ron Klain as Ebola Czar
Source: CNN
President Barack Obama will appoint Ron Klain his "Ebola czar," knowledgeable sources tell CNN.
The president on Thursday signaled his openness to the idea to have one individual coordinating the entire federal response to any threat of an outbreak in the United States.
Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/17/politics/ebola-czar-ron-klain/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
That's funny.
I thought we already had one...The Surgeon General.
Oh, wait. The fucking republicans have NOT ALLOWED a Surgeon General in to this administration.
Can't believe I forgot that already, it has played so well on the news these last few weeks...NOT
LynneSin
(95,337 posts)For now this will do.
Major Hogwash
(17,656 posts)Yes, and maybe it will also help to tamp down the fear Americans have been expressing about ebola.
Especially after the mainstream media didn't do such a good job informing the American public that there is very little chance of contracting ebola.
Now President Obama has appointed a man to the job of dealing with ebola.
President Obama has done everything he can legally do to stop the ebola crisis.
The fear mongering will continue, however.
Botany
(70,504 posts)Somebody whose job is all about ebola is fine but we need a Srugeon General ....
A.L.G. in Kentucky should be getting after Mitch McConnell for his blocking of any
vote on President Obama's pick for Surgeon General.
former9thward
(32,006 posts)He refuses to allow an up or down vote. No, there is no filibuster.
Botany
(70,504 posts)At the moment, we don't have a surgeon general. And for that, blame belongs to the fourth branch of government, the National Rifle Assn.
The NRA has put the kibosh on Dr. Vivek Murthy, whom President Obama nominated to the post last November, after the resignation of Surgeon Gen. Regina Benjamin. The NRA's complaint was that Murthy called guns "a health care issue" in a 2012 tweet. It's worth noting that the tweet came out almost two months, to the day, before the Sandy Hook Elementary School massacre, in which Adam Lanza's gunfire took the lives of 20 children and six adults. One might take Murthy's comment as, if anything, a grotesque understatement.
http://touch.latimes.com/#section/-1/article/p2p-81656275/
former9thward
(32,006 posts)The NRA does not unless there has been a change in the Senate rules allowing them to stop votes. Reid could call a vote on this today if he wanted to.
Botany
(70,504 posts)a) Some senators are afraid of the NRA
b) McConnell will block it w/his "you need 60 votes pocket veto"
f9t
former9thward
(32,006 posts)The Senate changed that rule late last year for Presidential appointments. Some senators may be afraid of the NRA but that is no excuse to not have an up or down vote and put people on the record.
Yupster
(14,308 posts)I bet they're anxious to pick a fight with the NRA right now.
No, Reid is protecting his vulnerable members from taking the vote before the election.
Maybe lame duck session.
Turbineguy
(37,331 posts)if more people started dying from ebola than from being shot.
hugo_from_TN
(1,069 posts)I doubt this will work out well...
Enrique
(27,461 posts)reminds me of picking Leon Panetta for CIA and DOD
Man from Pickens
(1,713 posts)Putting a political agent in charge of this effort is exactly the wrong thing to do. Why couldn't he pick someone non-political whose credentials are beyond dispute? What exactly was the motivation to pick someone with zero experience in the field?
Obama desperately needs some advisors from OUTSIDE his inner circle.
JudyM
(29,248 posts)under him.
Better than putting in a medical expert who doesn't know how to coordinate a nationwide effort.
Shemp Howard
(889 posts)What is needed here is a medical expert who knows how to coordinate a nationwide effort. A high-ranking military doctor would fit the bill.
kath
(10,565 posts)Cronyism is GREAT! For Kasich in Ohio, and everywhere else!
Cha
(297,229 posts)Howard Dean on Ron Klain.. "We've got to manage this thing. I think Klain is a good manager..."
http://metamorphosis.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5683312
GeorgeGist
(25,321 posts)Obama wants a lawyer.
candelista
(1,986 posts)Otherwise they might propose something politically risky.
former9thward
(32,006 posts)Reid refuses to allow a vote on Surgeon General. People should demand he allow an up or down vote. There is no filibuster allowed on Presidential appointments. That was changed last year.
Shemp Howard
(889 posts)The President has nominated Dr. Vivek Murthy for surgeon general. It should be a simple matter to get him confirmed.
All Sen. Reid needs to do is call the Senate back into session, and then schedule a vote. Since the "nuclear option" is in effect, only 51 votes are needed. What the Republicans want or don't want doesn't matter.
Why doesn't Reid call for a vote? I suspect that Reid is afraid of the NRA, who are opposing Murthy. It's time for Reid to decide: listen to the President or listen to the NRA.
valerief
(53,235 posts)Shemp Howard
(889 posts)Last edited Fri Oct 17, 2014, 08:20 PM - Edit history (1)
I hadn't thought of that. Perhaps six or more Democratic senators have already told Reid that they won't support Dr. Murthy.
branford
(4,462 posts)Yupster
(14,308 posts)needs to nominate someone else. Someone who actually has the support of his own party.
Doesn't seem like this should be so complicated.
Ten Democratic senators tell Reid they won't support.
Reid tells the President he just doesn't have the votes.
The President nominates someone else.
Is this so complicated?
KeepItReal
(7,769 posts)Put it on the record with and up or down vote for Surgeon General
Can't blame the GOP for this BS
hugo_from_TN
(1,069 posts)KeepItReal
(7,769 posts)With Dems like these...
samplegirl
(11,477 posts)Admiral Boris D. Lushniak, M.D., M.P.H.
Shemp Howard
(889 posts)He has 16 years CDC experience, including time with the anthrax team. For what I've read about him, Lushniak would have made a good choice for "Ebola Czar".
Rule of thumb:
Legal crisis? Appoint an experienced lawyer.
Medical crisis? Appoint an experienced doctor.
ballyhoo
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rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)Do Democrats have control of the Senate? Not when some of those Democrats are Blue Dogs.
kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)with infectious disease emergency response other than being the titular head of the US Public Health Service (one of the uniformed services).
Centers for DISEASE CONTROL AND PREVENTION are in charge of epidemic response. Frieden heads CDC.
Granted, many PHS officers (there are no "enlisted" work at CDC, but they work a lot of places.
Yes, we do need a permanent Surgeon General rather than the acting Surgeon General already in charge. But it's not like US PHS is rudderless.
Stop payingattention to the idiots in the MSM (and I don't mean just FauxNooz).
hugo_from_TN
(1,069 posts)TheCowsCameHome
(40,168 posts)Make the case for having a Surgeon General - take to the airwaves, if necessary, Mr. Obama - NOW!
This silly dancing-around shit is getting to be too much for my liking.
branford
(4,462 posts)The objection is to Vivek Murthy as Surgeon General. That's more than a slight distinction.
If Obama nominated non-controversial physician, particularly one with a military background and/or substantial experience with infectious diseases, I believe the nomination would sail through the Senate (at least when they are back in-session).
If you or Obama believe that Murthy is the best choice for the job, you need to convince Democratic Senators who think that his gun stance is anathema to their electorate and political prospects. Moreover, if he Ebola issue is the reason why a permanent Surgeon General is necessary immediately, you need to explain how Murthy is uniquely or specially skilled or gifted for such a task.
valerief
(53,235 posts)Or McDonald's?
ballyhoo
(2,060 posts)[IMG][/IMG]
Cha
(297,229 posts)"The Cleveland Plain-Dealer's Jeff Darcy did some mansplaining via a cartoon in Saturday's edition, not only completely misrepresenting Wendy Davis and her position on abortion in general, but also stating in an accompanying editorial that her shoes are "blood-red pink" and claiming that she's an "advocate" of late-term abortions, stated in a way that would insinuate that she is actually pro-abortion."
It's hard to know which is more pathetic -- that the cartoon so misrepresents the motives and words of Texas Senator Wendy Davis, or that Darcy himself appears to be woefully unaware that there are still health risks to the mother and the child that can be discovered after 20 weeks. The frustratingly ignorant crux of his argument completely belies the reality that the majority of abortions after 20 weeks are ending wanted pregnancies and are performed specifically because of concerns for the safety of the mother, or because the child has been determined to have what will be a terminal condition, if it even survives to term. No, as far as Darcy is concerned, Wendy Davis is some late-term abortion fetishist that wants to make Texas a haven for baby killers. His language gives no room for even the suggestion of an understanding that there might actually be medically viable reasons for an abortion after 20 weeks."
More..
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/07/07/1221772/-Shameless-Editorial-Cartoon-Attacks-and-Misrepresents-Wendy-Davis
Iamthetruth
(487 posts)Instead of a medical professional. What a joke.
Mojorabbit
(16,020 posts)7962
(11,841 posts)PSPS
(13,598 posts)nitpicker
(7,153 posts)I don't know what got into Obama (other than century-old swamp gas) (or sheer panic).
Expect the Gross Old Party to make hay out of this.
Cha
(297,229 posts)pots shots spewing venom on the internet. Who gives a shit what the gop fuckwads say?
Howard Dean on Ron Klain.. "We've got to manage this thing. I think Klain is a manger."
http://metamorphosis.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5683312
Cha
(297,229 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Carolina
(6,960 posts)We already have MBAs wrecking the healthcare system and now this... a lawyer as the Ebola czar
We need physicians, nurses, epidemiologists... some one with experience in infectious disease, public health, etc. NOT a fucking lawyer!
Cha
(297,229 posts)http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2014/10/17/who-is-ron-klain-who-will-lead-the-obama-administrations-response-to-ebola/
LOl.. the rw assholes in the comment section of the WAPO are whining about this appointment, too. Such ignorance. They know nothing about it.. but they do know it's a chance to spew their venom on the President.
Shemp Howard
(889 posts)Don't get me wrong. This Ebola situation needs a very talented coordinator at the top. And Ron Klain might be perfectly suited for the job.
But perceptions matter. They matter a lot! Mark my words. Because he's a lawyer and not a medical professional, any minor mistakes that Klain makes will be blown way out of proportion. This will hurt the President. Once again, Obama will have to play defense. And you don't score points while on defense.
IMHO, the President should have appointed a well-respected retired military doctor.
whistler162
(11,155 posts)object to the appointing of a retired military type.
Shemp Howard
(889 posts)Cha
(297,229 posts)"President Obama has asked Ron Klain to coordinate the governments comprehensive response to Ebola. He will report to the President Obamas Homeland Security Advisor Lisa Monaco and his National Security Advisor Susan Rice.
As former Chief of Staff to two Vice Presidents, Klain comes to the job with extensive experience in overseeing complex governmental operations and has good working relationships with leading Members of Congress as well as senior Administration officials.
Klains talent and managerial skill will be crucial in providing the resources and expertise we need to rapidly, cohesively, and effectively respond to Ebola at home and abroad. As the President said, while "the dangers of a serious outbreak are extraordinarily low" in the U.S., "we are taking this very seriously at the highest levels of government." Klain will be an integral part of ensuring that we effectively respond and ultimately bring an end to Ebola.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2014/10/17/president-obama-names-ron-klain-coordinate-us-response-ebola
Mz Pip
(27,445 posts)He's not there to cure Ebola. I don't get the fuss over this. If the guy is a good manager and coordinator and can lend some organization to this mess then WTF is the problem?
Cha
(297,229 posts)Howard Dean on Ron Klain.. "We've got to manage this thing. I think Klain is a good manager..."
http://metamorphosis.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5683312
840high
(17,196 posts)to Reid.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)Oh, because some of them claim to be Democrats? Well, call them on that bullshit.
TheCowsCameHome
(40,168 posts)In my entire lifetime I have never seen our government this screwed up.
What a sorry state of affairs.............