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DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
Mon Apr 9, 2012, 02:36 PM Apr 2012

U.S. Blocks Entry for Pakistani Lawyer, Outspoken Critic of Drone Attacks

Source: Common Dreams

[font size=4]U.S. Blocks Entry for Pakistani Lawyer, Outspoken Critic of Drone Attacks[/font]

Published on Monday, April 9, 2012
by Common Dreams


(photo: meesh)

The U.S. government is preventing a Pakistani lawyer and outspoken critic of drone attacks from entering the country. Rights groups say the move further silences the U.S. drone program's impact on civilians across the world.

The lawyer, Shahzad Akbar, has been invited to speak at the International Drone Summit this month organized by CODEPINK and the legal advocacy organizations Reprieve and the Center for Constitutional Rights. But Akbar has not received the necessary visa nor any information regarding his application for the visa filed in May 2011.

“Denying a visa to people like me is denying Americans their right to know what the U.S. government and its intelligence community are doing to children, women and other civilians in this part of the world,” Akbar said. “The CIA, which operates the drones in Pakistan, does not want anyone challenging their killing spree. But the American people should have the right to know.”

Read more: http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2012/04/09-2



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U.S. Blocks Entry for Pakistani Lawyer, Outspoken Critic of Drone Attacks (Original Post) DeSwiss Apr 2012 OP
interesting since now they are using drones here......they really don't like that nasty free speech robinlynne Apr 2012 #1
I believe they like the concept of free speech alright..... DeSwiss Apr 2012 #2
Drone technology, meet Skype technology izquierdista Apr 2012 #3
good idea, BUT, if visas are denied because of political views, we are in huge trouble as a nation. robinlynne Apr 2012 #4
Well, that'll work..... DeSwiss Apr 2012 #5
the Bush agenda marches on under new management nt msongs Apr 2012 #6
Indeed. n/t DeSwiss Apr 2012 #9
Shahzad Akbar is an attorney. Similarly, Terry Jones is a pastor. Robb Apr 2012 #7
Likewise, Obama is a Democrat. :-/ n/t DeSwiss Apr 2012 #8
And Fluffy is a feline. closeupready Apr 2012 #12
K&R think Apr 2012 #10
Good. cosmicone Apr 2012 #11
is that a gut feeling or are you basing that opinion on fact? frylock Apr 2012 #13
For someone to get this level of publicity requires "connections" in Pakistan. cosmicone Apr 2012 #14
''....funded and supported by ISI.'' DeSwiss Apr 2012 #24
K & R Better Believe It Apr 2012 #15
K&R Why is this acceptable? The Northerner Apr 2012 #16
You should invite him over for tea. Robb Apr 2012 #17
If Shahzad Akbar is willing to expose the bloodshed caused by drone strikes The Northerner Apr 2012 #18
Is this going to be one of those DU - Ron Paul moments? Robb Apr 2012 #19
It's not about him. It's about the behavior of our government. Comrade Grumpy Apr 2012 #22
Exactly! The slaughtering of civilians by drone strikes should ALWAYS be condemned The Northerner Apr 2012 #23
I'd be happy to invite him over for tea. But I can't. Comrade Grumpy Apr 2012 #21
What? DeSwiss Apr 2012 #25
Nothing in this article proving why this visa was denied treestar Apr 2012 #20
Fact? DeSwiss Apr 2012 #26
Is there anything to prove that? treestar Apr 2012 #27
Precisely. The guy is probably entrenched in Pakistan's cosmicone Apr 2012 #28

robinlynne

(15,481 posts)
1. interesting since now they are using drones here......they really don't like that nasty free speech
Mon Apr 9, 2012, 02:41 PM
Apr 2012

concept, do they.

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
2. I believe they like the concept of free speech alright.....
Mon Apr 9, 2012, 02:53 PM
Apr 2012

...it's the ''reality'' of free speech they seem to have the biggest problem with.

- Particularly when that speech comes in the form of hard questions they don't want to answer.

 

izquierdista

(11,689 posts)
3. Drone technology, meet Skype technology
Mon Apr 9, 2012, 02:54 PM
Apr 2012

There's no reason Akbar can't speak via video conference. To do so would underscore that for every technology, there is a counter-technology that can bring it down. Plus think of the view count when it's posted on YouTube.

robinlynne

(15,481 posts)
4. good idea, BUT, if visas are denied because of political views, we are in huge trouble as a nation.
Mon Apr 9, 2012, 02:56 PM
Apr 2012

which we are.
Remember when a codepink leader was not permitted to go to Canada for a bogus reason.

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
5. Well, that'll work.....
Mon Apr 9, 2012, 03:07 PM
Apr 2012

...for just as long as we have access to the technology. And they're working on limiting that access as we speak. Likewise, as a result of our replacing reality with a virtual one, we will have conceded more power to the very Police State that some seem unable to see.

- If they'll ignore our Constitutional rights (in full view of everyone I might add), why would we expect for them to stop there?

 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
11. Good.
Mon Apr 9, 2012, 03:55 PM
Apr 2012

He probably represents the terrorist element in Pakistan anyway -- one or more of the many official Pakistani terrorist organizations funded and supported by ISI.

 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
14. For someone to get this level of publicity requires "connections" in Pakistan.
Mon Apr 9, 2012, 04:18 PM
Apr 2012

So it is a rational and logical conclusion.

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
24. ''....funded and supported by ISI.''
Mon Apr 9, 2012, 05:49 PM
Apr 2012

Who are funded and supported by the USA (CIA).

- Just like bin Laden used to be.....

The Northerner

(5,040 posts)
18. If Shahzad Akbar is willing to expose the bloodshed caused by drone strikes
Mon Apr 9, 2012, 04:50 PM
Apr 2012

I'll certainly invite him to have tea.

The slaughtering of innocent civilians and countless violations of another country's sovereignty should warrant considerable attention, right?


“The CIA, which operates the drones in Pakistan, does not want anyone challenging their killing spree. But the American people should have the right to know.”


- Shahzad Akbar

I agree 100% with the above quote.

Robb

(39,665 posts)
19. Is this going to be one of those DU - Ron Paul moments?
Mon Apr 9, 2012, 04:54 PM
Apr 2012

Where a complete asshole with a history of being an asshole says something a handful of credulous DUers agree with, and becomes the latest craze?

Good luck with that.

The Northerner

(5,040 posts)
23. Exactly! The slaughtering of civilians by drone strikes should ALWAYS be condemned
Mon Apr 9, 2012, 05:24 PM
Apr 2012

and if Shahzad Akbar can bring more attention to that issue then he should be welcomed and praised.

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
21. I'd be happy to invite him over for tea. But I can't.
Mon Apr 9, 2012, 05:00 PM
Apr 2012

Are you okay with the US government denying visas because it would be embarrassed or because it's pissed off at someone?

I'm not.

What is the reason he can't get a visa?

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
26. Fact?
Mon Apr 9, 2012, 05:55 PM
Apr 2012

Homeland Security doesn't release ''facts'' to the public.

- It's for your own good though.......

treestar

(82,383 posts)
27. Is there anything to prove that?
Mon Apr 9, 2012, 06:05 PM
Apr 2012

Denial of a visa may be for many reasons, and there may be a way to find out about that.

Though perhaps not easily on the internet.

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