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KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 09:55 PM Nov 2014

FBI Warns Ferguson Decision ‘Will Likely’ Lead to Violence By Extremists Protesters

Source: ABC News

As the nation waits to hear whether a Missouri police officer will face charges for killing unarmed teenager Michael Brown in Ferguson, Mo., the FBI is warning law enforcement agencies across the country that the decision “will likely” lead some extremist protesters to threaten and even attack police officers or federal agents.

~snip

“The announcement of the grand jury’s decision … will likely be exploited by some individuals to justify threats and attacks against law enforcement and critical infrastructure,” the FBI says in an intelligence bulletin issued in recent days. “This also poses a threat to those civilians engaged in lawful or otherwise constitutionally protected activities.”

Within hours of the FBI issuing its bulletin, some police departments across the country issued their own internal memos urging officers to review procedures and protocols for responding to mass demonstrations.

Still, the bulletin’s conclusions were blunt: “The FBI assesses those infiltrating and exploiting otherwise legitimate public demonstrations with the intent to incite and engage in violence could be armed with bladed weapons or firearms, equipped with tactical gear/gas masks, or bulletproof vests to mitigate law enforcement measures.”

~Continues at link

Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/fbi-warns-ferguson-decision-lead-violence-extremist-protesters/story?id=26980624



Notice how the FBI memo signally fails to mention any possibility of police violence or a 'police riot'? Nor is there any mention of the death threats made by the KKK.

Grammar goof in headline comes from ABC, not your humble narrator.
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FBI Warns Ferguson Decision ‘Will Likely’ Lead to Violence By Extremists Protesters (Original Post) KingCharlemagne Nov 2014 OP
I cannot f*cking believe this shit. 99th_Monkey Nov 2014 #1
I am very disappointed in the FBI and in its KingCharlemagne Nov 2014 #11
This is beyond incompetence 99th_Monkey Nov 2014 #18
+1 nt Live and Learn Nov 2014 #33
always those joglee Nov 2014 #2
Yes, I must agree, and every-time it's happened that I've seen, the cops were the ones exploiting juxtaposed Nov 2014 #5
We saw cops changing out of off duty clothes where they instigated violence into their uniforms peacebird Nov 2014 #9
'those infiltrating and exploiting otherwise legitimate public demonstrations could be... Erich Bloodaxe BSN Nov 2014 #3
But see, when law enforcement does it, it's "measures". When protesters KingCharlemagne Nov 2014 #12
"to mitigate law enforcement measures" Live and Learn Nov 2014 #34
Indeed. SamKnause Nov 2014 #4
Calliope couldn't do it any better. DeSwiss Nov 2014 #6
If by extremists, they mean the cops, then yes. blackspade Nov 2014 #7
BINGO! "has all the earmarks of a psyops operation." It definitely does, the RKP5637 Nov 2014 #14
Watch Out billhicks76 Nov 2014 #37
+1 nt Live and Learn Nov 2014 #35
What strikes me Pantagruelsmember Nov 2014 #8
I noticed that too. ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #15
Yes, the verdict was known some time back. joshdawg Nov 2014 #39
The verdict is being held back to make it appear that the "jury" labored and languished Liberal_Stalwart71 Nov 2014 #47
"extremist protestors" = police, FBI, DHS etc nt msongs Nov 2014 #10
Seriously, though - the FBI is referring to protestors as "extremists." Maedhros Nov 2014 #27
The way I read it is that the FBI is referring to groups like the KKK as extremists, GGJohn Nov 2014 #29
Have you been paying any attention to Ferguson? Live and Learn Nov 2014 #36
So that convenience store that was looted and set on fire was done by the cops? GGJohn Nov 2014 #42
I hope more militancy is heaven05 Nov 2014 #46
Agent Provocateurs Working for Whom eom LarryNM Nov 2014 #13
I would love for those organizing any protests ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #16
That already happened earlier during the protests. Locals did that when out of town white anarchists freshwest Nov 2014 #22
DU Labels Truths Like This Conspiracy Theories billhicks76 Nov 2014 #38
That means they're either going to return a true bill or a no true bill jmowreader Nov 2014 #17
From the folks who brought us 'Parallel Construction'. n/t cprise Nov 2014 #19
"Extremist Protestors" = N*GGERS LIKE ME and others who look like me!!! Go ahead and say it! Liberal_Stalwart71 Nov 2014 #20
I wonder if the FBI has ever heard the term . . . Brigid Nov 2014 #21
I wonder if any of the geniuses at FBI has ever heard the KingCharlemagne Nov 2014 #28
Exploited. Bull. jwirr Nov 2014 #23
Wonder if they issued the same warnings about the Bundy Klan rpannier Nov 2014 #24
I hope that the community leaders and church volunteers who helped keep the peace last time are jwirr Nov 2014 #25
Ferguson decision-makers appear to want major trouble. oldandhappy Nov 2014 #26
Relax, haters MannyGoldstein Nov 2014 #30
Uh-oh..... DeSwiss Nov 2014 #31
Point two of your graphic is RW bullshit. blackspade Nov 2014 #41
Obvious the FBI is painting everyday ordinary citizens as terr'ists. The Klan, however, gets a free blkmusclmachine Nov 2014 #32
The tables have been turned as the country morphs into a very unpleasant environment, while RKP5637 Nov 2014 #40
what about the real terrorists? heaven05 Nov 2014 #43
I'll support our troops . . . when they disobey orders to fire on civilians. You might KingCharlemagne Nov 2014 #44
very cool!! heaven05 Nov 2014 #45
Best setup campaign for a police riot ever! Bragi Nov 2014 #48
They sound like Mayor Daley of Chicago back in 1968. Brigid Nov 2014 #49
Good analogy Bragi Nov 2014 #50
Or like California Governor Ronald Reagan back in KingCharlemagne Nov 2014 #54
So will they announce it Thanksgiving eve? Bragi Nov 2014 #51
I take it they are talking about the Klan & Aryan Brotherhood-types Jackpine Radical Nov 2014 #52
Would that it were so, JR. There is a call out to the National KingCharlemagne Nov 2014 #53
The NG ain't going to go over to the side of the protesters, GGJohn Nov 2014 #56
"No, maybe not." merrily Nov 2014 #55
One must wonder, indeed..... AverageJoe90 Nov 2014 #57
 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
1. I cannot f*cking believe this shit.
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 10:02 PM
Nov 2014

As someone else just posted on another OP , the "authorities" are totally setting the stage for brutal indiscriminate Police violence against protesters, who are then blamed (Hey, the FBI 'predicted protesters would get violent)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5831708

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
18. This is beyond incompetence
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 11:45 PM
Nov 2014

it's actually complicity in the deliberate police abuses (and possible killing) of vulnerable US citizens simply asking for something like actual "justice" in Ferguson.

 

joglee

(24 posts)
2. always those
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 10:02 PM
Nov 2014

In everything there are those who look to exploit the situation.

Protests are no different, and all it does is hurt those who are trying to protest right.

 

juxtaposed

(2,778 posts)
5. Yes, I must agree, and every-time it's happened that I've seen, the cops were the ones exploiting
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 10:08 PM
Nov 2014

peacebird

(14,195 posts)
9. We saw cops changing out of off duty clothes where they instigated violence into their uniforms
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 10:16 PM
Nov 2014

Laughing with their buddies during the antiwar protests....

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
3. 'those infiltrating and exploiting otherwise legitimate public demonstrations could be...
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 10:06 PM
Nov 2014

Last edited Mon Nov 17, 2014, 10:38 PM - Edit history (1)

equipped with tactical gear/gas masks, or bulletproof vests to mitigate law enforcement measures.”


Honestly? I would hope EVERY legitimate protestor would be able to be equipped with tactical gear, gas masks, and bulletproof vests' to protect themselves as best they can from "law enforcement measures", aka, police violence.
 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
12. But see, when law enforcement does it, it's "measures". When protesters
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 10:30 PM
Nov 2014

do exactly the same thing, it's "violence" or even - GASP! - 'terrorism'.

Good on you to call out the linguistic bullshit.

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
34. "to mitigate law enforcement measures"
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 03:33 AM
Nov 2014

Do they mean the measures that law enforcement take to stop our rights of peaceful protest and filming law enforcement.

The only reason the protestors feel they need this equipment is because law enforcement has friggen military equipment and is using it to stop protests.

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
7. If by extremists, they mean the cops, then yes.
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 10:12 PM
Nov 2014

All the hype about protester violence has all the earmarks of a psyops operation.

RKP5637

(67,107 posts)
14. BINGO! "has all the earmarks of a psyops operation." It definitely does, the
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 10:42 PM
Nov 2014

playbook fits quite well. Trying to prepare the masses the bashing of heads is legitimate ... because we told you there would be violence.

I trust little anymore in official statements. This, is not a well country.

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
37. Watch Out
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 05:24 AM
Nov 2014

DU will label you a conspiracy theorist...there are a lot of Coincidence Theorists here.

Pantagruelsmember

(106 posts)
8. What strikes me
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 10:16 PM
Nov 2014

is assumption of any possibility the grand jury indicts Wilson.
This process seems to define show trial.

joshdawg

(2,647 posts)
39. Yes, the verdict was known some time back.
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 07:20 AM
Nov 2014

The verdict is being held back from the public in order to prolong the drama.
The GJ will not indict. That is pretty much a given.

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
47. The verdict is being held back to make it appear that the "jury" labored and languished
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 02:43 PM
Nov 2014

over such a "hard and difficult" decision. It's such bullshit! This is a show!

GGJohn

(9,951 posts)
29. The way I read it is that the FBI is referring to groups like the KKK as extremists,
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 01:19 AM
Nov 2014

not the well meaning legitimate protesters who want nothing more than to protest peacefully.

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
36. Have you been paying any attention to Ferguson?
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 03:42 AM
Nov 2014

They have already used abusive measures toward protestors peacefully using their RIGHT to protest.

All the violence has been done by officers. There is not one documented piece of evidence of protestors acting violently despite what the MSM tells you. And yet, countless demonstrators have been maced, shot with rubber bullets and been subjected to the LRAD that can cause permanent hearing damage.

GGJohn

(9,951 posts)
42. So that convenience store that was looted and set on fire was done by the cops?
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 09:31 AM
Nov 2014

I'm not denying that the cops were out of control, but there were splinter groups that were out of control also.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
46. I hope more militancy is
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 12:13 PM
Nov 2014

created, in minority communities nationwide, by this upcoming travesty of justice in ferguson. The cowardly 'agitators' that leave as soon as they have done their harm in creating a false image of a violent community populace need to be marginalized and hopefully they will be just that. Let's see what the MSM does with the racist KKK and white supremacist agitators who will be the future murderers, in ferguson, in this conflict. These type of garbage dump scum are just chomping at the bit. I can just feel it.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
16. I would love for those organizing any protests ...
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 11:02 PM
Nov 2014

to have folks tackle and secure anyone they see committing or instigating violent acts (not defending themselves or trying to escape any mayhem that might occur) and hold them for federal authorities. I'm willing to bet, if done, those held will turn out to be "agents of the state" or klansmen ... or can point out the "agents of the state"/klansmen behind it all..

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
22. That already happened earlier during the protests. Locals did that when out of town white anarchists
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 12:34 AM
Nov 2014
tried to break windows and toss molotovs. The locals are on alert for agent provocateurs. I despise these guys, they make trouble, skip town and let others get hurt. And they think they're so revolutionary, when they are actually cowards. The people of Ferguson don't deserve this bullshit.

jmowreader

(50,557 posts)
17. That means they're either going to return a true bill or a no true bill
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 11:28 PM
Nov 2014

True bill = KKK, teabaggers, NRA types go after every black person and liberal they can find.

No true bill = you'll think the Rodney King riots were mild.

In either case = the cops will start bashing heads and keep doing it until the National Guard is sent in.

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
28. I wonder if any of the geniuses at FBI has ever heard the
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 01:11 AM
Nov 2014

phrase "Pyrrhic Victory"? Or "Pandora's Box"?

rpannier

(24,329 posts)
24. Wonder if they issued the same warnings about the Bundy Klan
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 12:56 AM
Nov 2014

Because those did turn into federal employees being harassed by nutjob extremists

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
25. I hope that the community leaders and church volunteers who helped keep the peace last time are
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 01:03 AM
Nov 2014

organizing to be there from the very first. There needs to be some very steady heads who can stand between this murderous police force and their military toys and the crowd that simply want to protest any injustice.

I also hope that the media will help get the truth out as they did the last time. I am thinking about the night that the media stood between the police and the protesters.

Supposedly the National Guard are going to be there for the sole purpose of protecting command centers. I will believe it when I see it.

oldandhappy

(6,719 posts)
26. Ferguson decision-makers appear to want major trouble.
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 01:08 AM
Nov 2014

Looks to me as if the police chief and governor and others are deliberately setting up a major conflagration. And of course the screaming media will be there. Anger out of control on the civil liberty side. The Black population has been non-violent from the beginning. My heart hurts.

 

MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
30. Relax, haters
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 01:53 AM
Nov 2014

Holder is doing a review, with the possibility of finding room for improvement. Justice *will* be done.

 

blkmusclmachine

(16,149 posts)
32. Obvious the FBI is painting everyday ordinary citizens as terr'ists. The Klan, however, gets a free
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 02:31 AM
Nov 2014

pass.

I wonder WHY?!?!

Corrupt, absolutely corrupt.



RKP5637

(67,107 posts)
40. The tables have been turned as the country morphs into a very unpleasant environment, while
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 07:36 AM
Nov 2014

voters approve by how they vote or do not vote. 'Birds of a feather flock together' for oppression. Take off the labels and there's lot of commonality.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
43. what about the real terrorists?
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 11:00 AM
Nov 2014

the KKK and white power agitators, inciters of violence. I am not fooled by this one sided, business as usual, BS!!!!!! I think the people of ferguson and other decent people will have enough reason for anger and that these so called "extremist protestors" warnings are just a set up for another Rosewood. Is holder behind these goddamn memos? Why hasn't he addressed the threats by the KKK? and their racist friends spouting their ignorance all over the internet. GOD!!!! This country is a sick, sick place to live with all the racist ignorance let out of the racial Pandora's Box because of Barack Obama living in the white house at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave, D.C. Hell maybe Marcus Garvey was correct. Should have let them have this racist pig stye of a country. By now they would be killing each other in droves because of their hate and no more n...... to put it on.

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
44. I'll support our troops . . . when they disobey orders to fire on civilians. You might
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 11:47 AM
Nov 2014

want to check this site out. Looks like a pretty powerful appeal:

http://www.marchforward.org/veterans_appeal_to_national

Bragi

(7,650 posts)
48. Best setup campaign for a police riot ever!
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 02:49 PM
Nov 2014

This is the best/worst sustained media campaign I've ever seen in terms of setting the stage to violently confront protesters.

I wonder if Ferguson's all-white PR consulting firm had any role in developing it?

Nah, they aren't big and smart enough. This feels like there's an Edelman or a Werber Shandwick behind it.

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
54. Or like California Governor Ronald Reagan back in
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 03:56 PM
Nov 2014

1970:

If it's to be a bloodbath, let it be now. Appeasement is not the answer.

~California Governor Ronald Reagan, April 8, 1970

Bragi

(7,650 posts)
51. So will they announce it Thanksgiving eve?
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 03:25 PM
Nov 2014

That would be perfect. Many supporters will be unwilling/unable to protest, and the police can freely injure those that show up, while picking up double overtime.

It will be a win-win-win for the Ferguson authorities, their all-white PR firm, and their almost-all-white police force.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
52. I take it they are talking about the Klan & Aryan Brotherhood-types
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 03:50 PM
Nov 2014

who are likely to protest the coming homicide charges?

No, maybe not.

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
53. Would that it were so, JR. There is a call out to the National
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 03:54 PM
Nov 2014

Guard to disobey orders and go over to the protesters. While I would love to see it happen, I'm not holding my breath:

http://www.marchforward.org/veterans_appeal_to_national

GGJohn

(9,951 posts)
56. The NG ain't going to go over to the side of the protesters,
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 04:14 PM
Nov 2014

a lot of those Guardsmen are probably cops themselves and won't go against their brothers and sisters.
That's about as brilliant as your suggestion that Pres. Obama federalize the MO. NG and task them to disarm local police.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
55. "No, maybe not."
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 04:01 PM
Nov 2014

Among many other things, I don't think the homicide charges would cause the KKK to attack the police, one of the possible events cited in the warning.

That this is not a huge surprise does not mean it can't be a huge disappointment.

 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
57. One must wonder, indeed.....
Wed Nov 19, 2014, 05:05 PM
Nov 2014

If something very similar to CoIntelPro may be in play.....remember, folks, corrupt factions of the F.B.I. and other law enforcement were doing the same damn thing in the Sixties, too.

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