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Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 03:32 PM Nov 2014

UN: Deaths Keep Rising in Ukraine; Now Over 4,300

Source: ABC News

The fighting in eastern Ukraine has killed nearly 300 people in the past month despite a cease-fire and has violated people's rights so much it could amount to war crimes, U.N. rights investigators said Thursday.

A new report from the U.N. team in Ukraine said at least 4,317 people have been killed in the conflict that began in mid-April and the number of people internally displaced by the violence has risen sharply in the past two months to nearly 466,830 in all.

The report also cited allegations of serious human rights abuses by armed groups, including torture, detention, executions, forced labor and sexual violence that "are of a systematic nature and may amount to crimes against humanity."

The report said the standoff between government troops and pro-Russian rebels in eastern Ukraine "is becoming increasingly entrenched, with the total breakdown of law and order and the emergence of parallel governance systems" in Donetsk, the largest city under separatist control, and in rebel-controlled areas in the neighboring Luhansk region.

"All parties need to make a far more wholehearted effort to resolve this protracted crisis peacefully," U.N. High Commissioner for Human Rights Zeid Raad al-Hussein said in a statement.

Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/killings-displacement-rise-ukraine-27046819



Here's the full UNOHR report on human rights violations in the Ukraine conflict:

http://www.ohchr.org/Documents/Countries/UA/OHCHR_seventh_reportUkraine20.11.14.pdf
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UN: Deaths Keep Rising in Ukraine; Now Over 4,300 (Original Post) Comrade Grumpy Nov 2014 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author go west young man Nov 2014 #1
Sadly, even Ban Ki Moon has publicly advocated for the Kiev regime who, go west young man Nov 2014 #2
How sad that you trash Ban Ki Moon davidpdx Nov 2014 #3
He is a US shill go west young man Nov 2014 #4
That's a great copy/paste job davidpdx Nov 2014 #5
So now I'm a thug? go west young man Nov 2014 #7
Calling Ban Ki Moon a shill is not a ad hominen attack? davidpdx Nov 2014 #8
I'm sure he'll be off to the bank like Tony Blair..... go west young man Nov 2014 #9
Bookmarking for review later davidpdx Nov 2014 #10
Has Putin invited you to the Kremlin yet? snooper2 Nov 2014 #6

Response to Comrade Grumpy (Original post)

 

go west young man

(4,856 posts)
2. Sadly, even Ban Ki Moon has publicly advocated for the Kiev regime who,
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 07:18 PM
Nov 2014

it has been well established, is using Pro Nazi battalions that are conducting atrocities on ethnic Russian civilians. The UN has looked the other way for most of the conflict while civilians have died. The large amount of the civilians killed are elderly people. I have even seen video where the Kiev regime killed old people in wheelchairs. It is disgusting what is going on while the US media continually screams....Putin, Putin, Putin.....Invasion, Invasion, Invasion. Everyone is being taken for a ride this time and the US taxpayer are the ones footing the bill while the 1% plays us all once again. What the fuck happened to this county?


That report and the UN numbers are entirely wrong by the way. CNN reported over a million refugees had already fled to Russia by the end of July. The UN is citing half that amount. The total war dead is also well over 10,000 at this point. Here's proof. One graveyard has over 6,500 Ukrainian soldiers graves as can easily be read on the crosses. The second video is from Ukraine Today (Kievs own news channel) and they cite they lost over 1,000 soldiers in one battle alone. These numbers I'm quoting don't even take into account ethnic Russian civilians that have been slaughtered in large numbers....just because they voted to secede from a regime they consider Nazi fascists.





The videos I post above once easily prove that our own media is lying to us and covering up what is really happening in Ukraine. If you want to stay informed folks as to what is really happening in the world it is best to turn off your TV set and quit with the MSM. They are having us all along for the ride and using you while covering up the truth. They work for the 1%, the MIC, The big corps, The NeoCons......they do not work for you. You are a victim of their propaganda. Don't let yourself be. Stand up and look deeper.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
3. How sad that you trash Ban Ki Moon
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 03:29 AM
Nov 2014

He is an honorable man from South Korea who has been a diplomat all of his life.

 

go west young man

(4,856 posts)
4. He is a US shill
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 09:32 AM
Nov 2014

He certainly doesn't have an ounce of the moral fiber of Kofi Annan who stood up against US imperialism and tried to stop the Iraq War. Ban has instead denounced the elections in Novorossiya. He has shown himself to be against the free right to self determination. He even put out an 'official' statement before the November 2nd referendum saying he 'deplored' the elections in Novorossiya. That statement was used by the US media to attempt to frame the debate as the UN being against the vote when in actuality it was just Ban. Quite disingenuious. As the UN Security Council never even voted on the issue. In other words he's an obvious shill.......I'm sure John Bolton loves him. The NeoCons finally got the UN they always wanted. http://www.un.org/sg/statements/index.asp?nid=8142

This is what the US media would prefer we didn't see

The following You Tube videos prove that thousands of peaceful, enthusiastic voters took to the streets of the formerly East Ukraine to denounce the Kiev coup imposed government that has been bombing and killing their families. The videos show massive lines of men, women and elderly people and includes testimony from a US election observer (a man of color) who was one of over 70 election observers from over 20 countries. No anomalies were observed unlike the elections held by the Kiev government last week. During the election the Right Sector Nazi battalions of the Kiev military kept bombing and even destroyed a school as proven by the video at the bottom below, which they filmed themselves.

Each of these videos from separate locations shows voting lines thousands of people long.

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In the following picture and subsequent video, British reporter Graham Philips (a stringer for RT, Canal in France and Politico in the US as well as a pro Novorossiya supporter) shows us the beautiful 'terrorists' of Donetsk. These are the children and teachers the US has supported the bombing of. US State Department spokesperson Jen Psaki has stated on camera that Kiev has 'every right to conduct the bombing of them and their homes in order to maintain it's borders and that these people have no right to vote to secede from the fascist Kiev regime.'

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10152839480708659&set=a.62154938658.89554.691108658&type=1&theater

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The following two videos show the testimonies of the International Observation Committee.



US election observer testimony.


The Kiev regimes military destroys a Russian language school during the elections. They do this just for the sake of it. There is no battle taking place in this video, just pure hatred and hooliganism. This what they do to the schools of the ethnic Russian population. This is why Crimea was wise to secede early and Novorossiya is wise to seek secession now.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b83_1415014120

Yahoo and AFP ran a story on it's front page all day Friday about the Kiev Nazi battalions and the atrocities they have conducted against innocent civilians. http://news.yahoo.com/ukraine-soldiers-government-were-coming-next-155843129.html

In West Ukraine they are now implementing 'lustration' against all ethnic Russian people and even throwing women politicians into trash dumpsters. This video shows 20 men terrorizing one woman and slamming the garbage bin lid on her head before she is rescued by another woman. This is the side the US is supporting. This is the 'freedom' the US is touting. Due to 'lustration' ethnic Russians were not allowed to participate in the Kiev elections. That is not democracy. That is fascism.



Even Vice News (a pro Kiev/US propaganda outfit) footage proves that the Kiev ran elections were no where on the scale of openness and enthusiasm as the election in Donetsk and Luhansk. This Vice News video clearly shows very little participation or enthusiasm and also shows Right Sector Nazi guards carrying machine guns right near the ballot boxes. Those same neo-nazi battalions are the ones who secure the votes in this video. They have been killing ethnic Russians for the past 7 months therefore ethnic Russians did not participate in the 40% turnout due to being worried that voter rolls could be used to punish them as occurred after the May 11th referendum. Those voters rolls were collected by the Kiev Nazis and many people were tracked down and disappeared.

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This final video shows the Kiev military firing incendiary munitions down on a civilian home and graveyard near the Donetsk airport two days before the election. These munitions are considered banned by the UN. An innocent person loses their home in this video as has happened so many times before.

Loud music warning- (please turn down your speakers)



This is the true situation in regards to what is really happening in Ukraine and Novorossiya. The US media is continuing to lie to the American people and has done so for the entire conflict in order to marginalize Russias influence in the world. It is backfiring. The people of Crimea and Novorossiya have voted and exercised their own right to self determination and not to live under fascist rule. That is what true democracy is supposed to represent. It is 2014 and in the age of You Tube and social media it is virtually impossible to hide the truth. The United States has lost it's way and is acting in the same character as the British and King George did in the 1770's. What has happened to our country? Where is the right to self determination for the people of Novorossiya? Why are we supporting a murderous, fascist regime in the heart of Europe?

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
5. That's a great copy/paste job
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 09:53 AM
Nov 2014

and a great with your continued smear a diplomat who has dedicated his whole life to service. Given the choice of believing Ban Ki Moon or a thug behind a keyboard, I'll choose Mr. Moon everyday of the week and twice on Sundays.

I'm sure you'd like nothing more than the continued Russian takeover of Ukraine include west to Kiev (yes, Go West Young Man).

Is this another case of poor misunderstood Russia?

 

go west young man

(4,856 posts)
7. So now I'm a thug?
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 11:33 AM
Nov 2014

For getting the truth out....YOU....label me a thug? Man you have some nerve. With that personal attack people can see clearly who you are. So far you've got nothing but ad hominem attacks. Which, of course, means you have a weak argument. Thanks for backing up the veracity of my posts.


Oh and here's Bans statement: http://www.unis.unvienna.org/unis/en/pressrels/2014/unissgsm578.html


Notice how at the top is says "For information only - not an official statement?
In other words it is not UN policy, it is Bans opinion. Easily attained as he is a US shill. The US put him in that seat and when he's done he will be handsomely rewarded, just as the vassals in the EU will be...even though they vote against their own citizens interests. So to sum up....Yeah, Ban Ki Moon is a US shill and nowhere near the character of one Kofi Annan.


More on Bans 'deplored' elections (that was the MSM word of the week that week) http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-11-04/washington’s-blinding-hypocrisy-tale-two-elections-ukraine

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
8. Calling Ban Ki Moon a shill is not a ad hominen attack?
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 03:58 AM
Nov 2014

What honest proof do you have that he is a US shill?

If he is a shill, is he getting paid for it? How?

I call it like I see it. You have made allegations against a high ranking UN official that you can not back up.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
10. Bookmarking for review later
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 08:56 PM
Nov 2014

Actually there is talk he MAY run for president in Korea. His term ends Dec 31 2016, the next election is December 2017 (the winner would take office in Feb 2018).

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