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NeoConsSuck

(2,544 posts)
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 07:36 AM Nov 2014

Becca Campbell: Woman allegedly kills herself with gun bought to prepare for Ferguson unrest

Source: WPTV.COM

ST. LOUIS (CNN) -- A woman appears to have accidentally fatally shot herself in the head with a gun bought to prepare for possible Ferguson-related unrest, according to sources briefed on the police investigation.

The shooting occurred Friday night in downtown St. Louis, the city's Metropolitan Police Department said, in an area dominated by vacant lots beside a football stadium.

The female victim, identified in a police report as Becca Campbell, 26, was a passenger in a car involved in an auto accident. Her 33-year-old boyfriend was driving, the sources told CNN.

The boyfriend, who wasn't identified, told police that the couple had bought a gun because of fears of unrest related to the pending grand jury decision on the shooting of Michael Brown, the sources said.

Read more: http://www.wptv.com/news/national/becca-campbell-woman-allegedly-kills-herself-with-gun-bought-to-prepare-for-ferguson-unrest-police-say



Either this is the #1 Darwin award for 2014, or there is more to this story....

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Becca Campbell: Woman allegedly kills herself with gun bought to prepare for Ferguson unrest (Original Post) NeoConsSuck Nov 2014 OP
They're out there. hobbit709 Nov 2014 #1
Or, bf / co-worker rammed a car to hide killing her. Festivito Nov 2014 #2
She waved the gun around, the boyfriend ducked away while driving TexasProgresive Nov 2014 #3
That is an AMAZING number of coincidences Kelvin Mace Nov 2014 #14
Well if he has nitrate residue on his hand or if she does we will know, won't we? TexasProgresive Nov 2014 #20
Hopefully Kelvin Mace Nov 2014 #25
Karma is a bitch bigdarryl Nov 2014 #4
Any relation Kelvin Mace Nov 2014 #15
well........ heaven05 Nov 2014 #5
Have you ever wondered... ReRe Nov 2014 #6
you're right heaven05 Nov 2014 #7
This is allegedly a photo of her arguing with a cop in Fergurson deutsey Nov 2014 #9
Thanks... ReRe Nov 2014 #10
Looks like a button on her pants Union Scribe Nov 2014 #22
I noticed that too... ReRe Nov 2014 #46
I think she looks black. bravenak Nov 2014 #26
I can see that, too. And I think she's angry that the police are touching the black man in the pic. freshwest Nov 2014 #38
Gun and fear do not mix. bravenak Nov 2014 #40
Black communities have been bombed from the air as in the Tulsa massacre. freshwest Nov 2014 #52
I have not been watching the coverage on TV until today much. bravenak Nov 2014 #53
she is a Mike Brown supporter Travis_0004 Nov 2014 #32
Thanks for that add. freshwest Nov 2014 #39
Thanks n/t ReRe Nov 2014 #49
It's not just newspapers Capt. Obvious Nov 2014 #34
They NEVER do, ReRe. They "make exceptions" for black people. Judi Lynn Nov 2014 #37
Yes, it's disgusting... ReRe Nov 2014 #51
Guns bought for "protection" are often a person's demise. Vinca Nov 2014 #8
the ratio is, what, 4:1? of course gun makers and sellers aren't selling safety, protection, and MisterP Nov 2014 #29
Irony Feral Child Nov 2014 #11
Interesting and sad. logosoco Nov 2014 #12
And whenever Wayne LaPierre of the NRA speaks, Mr.Bill Nov 2014 #16
"She bought a gun..."afraid" and then she acted stupidly. " Sounds like our drone program. n/t jtuck004 Nov 2014 #19
Well, if you buy a snake packman Nov 2014 #13
guns are the shakespearian tragedy of the US samsingh Nov 2014 #17
U.S. media is. They tell us we need guns. (But I hate guns, too.)nt valerief Nov 2014 #24
i guess there are two now samsingh Nov 2014 #44
Just another day in the life of legal gun ownership. nt onehandle Nov 2014 #18
And, in her case, the last one. (n/t) Nihil Nov 2014 #65
Just like they predicted LynnTTT Nov 2014 #21
she was a mike brown suppporter Travis_0004 Nov 2014 #33
One less shithead. nt valerief Nov 2014 #23
when you buy a handgun you have already committed murder in your mind GreatGazoo Nov 2014 #27
I can understand what you say. My BIL was a weapons expert in VN and told me about the mindset. freshwest Nov 2014 #42
I hope this is a bit sarcastic. If not... WTF dude? N/t Adrahil Nov 2014 #47
Darwin liberal N proud Nov 2014 #28
Where are all the gun-humpers? Darb Nov 2014 #30
They're waiting for the ammophobes to get done acting out friendly_iconoclast Nov 2014 #36
Looks like she is wearing a Justice for Michael Brown pin seen here chowder66 Nov 2014 #31
Gun owners are far more likely to kill themselves or a loved one then to protect anyone. Exultant Democracy Nov 2014 #35
That is true workinclasszero Nov 2014 #41
And people who drink are far more likely to be drunk drivers. n/t Adrahil Nov 2014 #48
That is one reason why we make people pass drivers test and carry insurance. Exultant Democracy Nov 2014 #50
Remind me... beevul Nov 2014 #54
Every state has manditory classes for drunk drivers. Read the post I'm responding too first Exultant Democracy Nov 2014 #55
And owning a gun is equivalent to driving drunk... beevul Nov 2014 #56
You'll have to ask Becca Campbell... wait shes dead. Exultant Democracy Nov 2014 #58
That poster wasnt the one that suggested treating gun owners like drunk drivers. beevul Nov 2014 #59
They made the comparison first. I'm just responding, reading comprehension is a virtue. Exultant Democracy Nov 2014 #60
So is knowing the difference between public use and simple ownership, of a thing. N/T beevul Nov 2014 #61
So no testing, no licensing, just walk into a store and get your gun no questions asked? nomorenomore08 Nov 2014 #62
How did we get... beevul Nov 2014 #63
I was asking to clarify. Though perhaps I could've worded the question a little better. n/t nomorenomore08 Nov 2014 #64
Unavailable for comment: Travelman Nov 2014 #43
Check the Boyfriend erpowers Nov 2014 #45
SA/DA are the best SD firearms. ileus Nov 2014 #57

Festivito

(13,452 posts)
2. Or, bf / co-worker rammed a car to hide killing her.
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 07:59 AM
Nov 2014

I imagine the boyfriend is the only one who knew what she was saying before she died.

TexasProgresive

(12,157 posts)
3. She waved the gun around, the boyfriend ducked away while driving
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 08:00 AM
Nov 2014

and hit a car in the rear. The gun when off striking the woman in the head. The only plus to this story is that the fool treating a gun as a toy was killed by her own foolishness. The bullet could have struck a child on the sidewalk or any other bystander.

TexasProgresive

(12,157 posts)
20. Well if he has nitrate residue on his hand or if she does we will know, won't we?
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 01:39 PM
Nov 2014

And if a passenger in my vehicle waved around a pistol in the direction of my head I would certainly duck. It is not that big a stretch for me to believe it. I mean, remember the guy who wanted to prove to his girl friend that guns were safe. I think he had 3 hand guns and he said they were empty. He put one to his head-click, I think the 2nd was loaded- OOPPSIE brains all over the place.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
6. Have you ever wondered...
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 08:45 AM
Nov 2014

... why newspapers never mention the skin color if the person was white? Don't they always mention skin color when a black person is involved in any way? Was the woman and boyfriend white or black?

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
7. you're right
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 09:13 AM
Nov 2014

about the media, sooner rather than later mentioning skin color. These days they find something to smear the black 'perp' with also. Bet your bottom dollar she was white.

deutsey

(20,166 posts)
9. This is allegedly a photo of her arguing with a cop in Fergurson
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 09:30 AM
Nov 2014
http://www.breaking911.com/wp-content/themes/breaking/timthumb.php?src=&w=630%20&h=o

1. On 8/18, I took this pic of #Ferguson protester Becca Campbell arguing w a cop. Campbell was fatally shot on Fri. pic.twitter.com/coDGN29xVF
— Paul Hampel (@phampel) November 24, 2014

- See more at: http://www.breaking911.com/woman-accidentally-kills-herself-with-gun-she-bought-for-ferguson-unrest/#sthash.GqLGaH8h.dpuf

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
10. Thanks...
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 09:43 AM
Nov 2014

... looks white to me. Still, I wonder if she was a supporter of Darren Wilson, or the Brown family.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
46. I noticed that too...
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 08:50 PM
Nov 2014

... perhaps a button with either Michael Brown's pic or Wilson's pic. Too bad we can't make it out.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
38. I can see that, too. And I think she's angry that the police are touching the black man in the pic.
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 06:15 PM
Nov 2014

But why did they get a gun?

Did they fear the cops or someone else?

Going up against a cop with a gun is suicide.

Who else is there to fear there?

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
40. Gun and fear do not mix.
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 06:19 PM
Nov 2014

It was probably a combination of fears exascerbated by the state of emergency. I imagine that many people are scared of what may happen. I think the riot they expect to decimate the town and surrounding area will not materialize. There will probably be some incidents, but nothing like th LA riots. The Govornor is making things worse.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
52. Black communities have been bombed from the air as in the Tulsa massacre.
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 09:25 PM
Nov 2014

I think that won't work in Ferguson, but the militaristic response had to have frightened people, even though who hoped to stay out of harm's way.

It must be hell for black people there, being used as the focal point for RWNJs. Or more like fascists on parade.

I don't have television, and correct me if I'm wrong, but they may only be covering the panic among some white people. The panic among black people is just as important. I mean, if the news was fair and balanced... blech...

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
53. I have not been watching the coverage on TV until today much.
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 09:27 PM
Nov 2014

It's mostly journalists stoking the fear. Rarely see too many interviews with people buying the guns.

Judi Lynn

(160,527 posts)
37. They NEVER do, ReRe. They "make exceptions" for black people.
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 05:18 PM
Nov 2014

It's a dirty practice which should have been ended so damned long ago, wouldn't you say?'

Pounding in the racism. Won't let it die what should have been a natural death.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
51. Yes, it's disgusting...
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 09:21 PM
Nov 2014

... "post-racial"? My arse! We've come so far in the last 50 years, but still have so far to go. Bigotry is Evil.

Vinca

(50,271 posts)
8. Guns bought for "protection" are often a person's demise.
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 09:22 AM
Nov 2014

Last week a woman in a picturesque Vermont town - a town lister no less - had a few vinos too many and when her 62 year old fiancé broke off their engagement she got his gun and shot both him and his son in their home. They were both dead at the scene. So much for "protection."

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
29. the ratio is, what, 4:1? of course gun makers and sellers aren't selling safety, protection, and
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 03:01 PM
Nov 2014

being-in-control, they're selling the illusions thereof

in the 2000s they started trotting out "the million saved just by brandishing every year aren't included!" and "rural areas are full of guns but have less gun crime, so you at least have to stop daring to ever criticize rifles"; these arguments showed they were on the defensive; but the thing is, 80-90% of Americans (and 70-80% of NRA members) isn't enough to pass or give momentum to even the most nugatory bills: Newtown showed us not just Washington's real and dangerous fecklessness, not just that we're crippled by our own gun fetish, not just that school administrators would rather hold unannounced "live shooter" drills that scar students as badly as an actual (if deathless) "incident"

Newtown showed that at some high level we've somehow given up, that the shootings not only *have* increased and *do* hit places with armed guards, but it just doesn't stay in the conversation: it's not that we've accepted them as routine or believe there's nothing we can do (NRA talking point #2): those 70-90% numbers disprove that; it's not that we're afraid of overreacting like we did after Littleton: kindergartners still aren't allowed to sign their surname "Hunter" because it looks like they're shaping their hand into a pistol, and even good campus police are more about letting students know they're always under the gun even in the classroom than about getting into the inevitable gunbattle; maybe everyone's afraid to have to be the one to go first, or there's an Abilene paradox at work somewhere in the works, preventing movements from getting past the neighborhood or state level (heck, rootin' tootin' Colorado has been making progress, including when the Pubs made a clean sweep a few weeks ago)

(but on this particular story I'm still waiting for the investigation ...)

logosoco

(3,208 posts)
12. Interesting and sad.
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 10:41 AM
Nov 2014

She bought a gun because she was "afraid" and then she acted stupidly.

Many in the area are afraid of what is going to happen and they think somehow a gun is going to help them. I worry about the numbers of guns out there now that were bought by people who are afraid. I am afraid we will start seeing more stories like this in the months to come, unless everyone sells their guns bought in haste and fear.
It seems to me that a person with a gun who wasn't thinking very clearly is what caused all of the unrest, so I really don't see how buying a gun is going to make things better for anyone.

Mr.Bill

(24,289 posts)
16. And whenever Wayne LaPierre of the NRA speaks,
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 12:06 PM
Nov 2014

he seems to reinforce this idea that somehow mere possession of a gun sets up a magical force-field around you the guarantees you can never be harmed, when actually, unless you dedicate a great deal of effort to the safety and moral aspects of gun ownership, you will likely be endangering yourself and those around you.

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
13. Well, if you buy a snake
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 11:28 AM
Nov 2014

you should expect-at some time, somewhere, somehow- it's going to bite you. Sorry to hear about it, but....

LynnTTT

(362 posts)
21. Just like they predicted
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 01:49 PM
Nov 2014

See, the fearful rightwing/gunnut/theorists warned you that there would be bloodshed.

GreatGazoo

(3,937 posts)
27. when you buy a handgun you have already committed murder in your mind
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 02:16 PM
Nov 2014

Negative expectations create negative outcomes.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
42. I can understand what you say. My BIL was a weapons expert in VN and told me about the mindset.
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 06:23 PM
Nov 2014

He said if you are not ready and willing to kill another human being, don't even think about picking up a loaded gun and pointing it at someone.

The questions are:

Who did she plan to kill?

Who was making her think that way?

Did she expect to succeed with using the gun to protect herself from who?

Aiming a gun at a cop is appropriately called, 'Suicide by cop.' They have to train for people attempting to end their lives by threatening them.

 

Darb

(2,807 posts)
30. Where are all the gun-humpers?
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 03:17 PM
Nov 2014

Gonna skip this story? Don't blame you, defending this idiot is a stretch even for you guys. And you know who you are.

 

friendly_iconoclast

(15,333 posts)
36. They're waiting for the ammophobes to get done acting out
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 04:36 PM
Nov 2014

I'm sure you sincerely believe that there's someone, somewhere who'll defend that idiot-
don't count me as one of them.

Exultant Democracy

(6,594 posts)
50. That is one reason why we make people pass drivers test and carry insurance.
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 09:06 PM
Nov 2014

I assume you agree that a mandatory course on gun safety before someone can own a gun is a good idea if you are using that analogy. It can also be taken as a given that you would approve all gun owners to carry insurance on each of their guns. That is of course if you are not a full of shit hypocrite throwing out anything to see what will stick?

 

beevul

(12,194 posts)
54. Remind me...
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 09:56 PM
Nov 2014

"I assume you agree that a mandatory course on gun safety before someone can own a gun is a good idea if you are using that analogy. It can also be taken as a given that you would approve all gun owners to carry insurance on each of their guns. That is of course if you are not a full of shit hypocrite throwing out anything to see what will stick?"

In which jurisdiction in America, does one have to take " a mandatory course on drivers safety before someone can own a car"?

I'm pretty sure no such thing exists anywhere in America.

Exultant Democracy

(6,594 posts)
55. Every state has manditory classes for drunk drivers. Read the post I'm responding too first
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 10:00 PM
Nov 2014

duh...
Moreover, you have to pass more then a few test to get a DL. Written, driving and vision. I would assume based on your objection to my post that you agree that this type of testing should be conducted by a government agency before people can have guns, unless of course you are just a hypocritical asshole trying to see what will stick. I'll give you benefit of the doubt... for now.

 

beevul

(12,194 posts)
56. And owning a gun is equivalent to driving drunk...
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 10:27 PM
Nov 2014

And owning a gun is equivalent to driving drunk now?

You ARE suggesting that potential gun owners should be treated like drunk drivers, before they're allowed to own a gun, after all.

And you guys wonder why you never seem to get any traction.

"Moreover, you have to pass more then a few test to get a DL. Written, driving and vision. "


So what, a DL isn't required to own car.

I would assume based on your objection to my objection, that you think that such licensing should allow every single person possessing a gun, to carry them concealed or openly, honored by other states in reciprocity agreements just like drivers licenses, unless of course you are just a hypocritical asshole comparing ownership with public usage and hopeing no one notices, like so many of your anti-gun colleagues.

I'll give you benefit of the doubt... for now.








Exultant Democracy

(6,594 posts)
58. You'll have to ask Becca Campbell... wait shes dead.
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 10:50 PM
Nov 2014

If you have issue with the comparison then Adrahil is who you should respond to.

 

beevul

(12,194 posts)
63. How did we get...
Tue Nov 25, 2014, 05:10 AM
Nov 2014

How did we get from "treating potential gun owners like drunk drivers" before any crime is committed, to "no testing, no licensing, just walk into a store and get your gun no questions asked", hmm?

How about you ask me what my position is before making assumptions.

erpowers

(9,350 posts)
45. Check the Boyfriend
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 06:56 PM
Nov 2014

I am glad the police seem to have tested the boyfriend for gun shot residue. The story does not seems to completely add up. Maybe he is telling the truth, but I would not be surprised if he was lying.

ileus

(15,396 posts)
57. SA/DA are the best SD firearms.
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 10:35 PM
Nov 2014

While the strikers do give you a constant trigger pull, they're also easy to make a dumb mistake with. I bet some slick salesmen hooked them on the Perfection brand...


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