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big_dog

(4,144 posts)
Tue Dec 2, 2014, 05:50 PM Dec 2014

Police Consider Charges Against Michael Brown's Stepdad

Source: USA Today 4:08 p.m. EST December 2, 2014

Police are investigating Michael Brown's stepfather for his actions in the hours after a grand jury determined that the officer who fatally shot Brown would not be charged, Ferguson Police Chief Tom Jackson said Tuesday.

CNN reports that police are trying to determine whether Brown's stepfather, Louis Head, was attempting to incite a riot on Nov. 24 when he screamed "Burn this b*tch down" to a crowd of protesters after St. Louis County prosecutor Robert McCulloch announced the grand jury's decision.



Jackson also told Fox News that charges against Head are possible. Missouri Lt. Gov. Peter Kinder has repeatedly called for Head's arrest. "We are pursuing (an investigation into) those comments, and there is a lot of discussion going on about that right now," Jackson told Sean Hannity. "But I really can't get into that right now."

Head's rant appeared on a video shot by The New York Times. CNN, citing Jackson, said Ferguson police have interviewed people who were with Head when he addressed the crowd, but had not yet spoken with Head. Benjamin Crump, a lawyer representing Brown's family, has called Head's tirade inappropriate. But Crump also asked that Head not be condemned, citing the tremendous stress the family was under that night.


Read more: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/12/02/police-consider-charging-michael-brown-stepfather/19777847/
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Police Consider Charges Against Michael Brown's Stepdad (Original Post) big_dog Dec 2014 OP
That should help alleviate tensions abelenkpe Dec 2014 #1
its like the Ferguson Cops are trying to get this going all over again big_dog Dec 2014 #2
this is complete "we have to W-I-N" mentality pasto76 Dec 2014 #33
Give Them An Inch billhicks76 Dec 2014 #39
Watching the "Decision" and aftermath Feral Child Dec 2014 #6
keep your eyes on NY, they had cops in Ferguson trying to prepare for this weeks Grand Jury decision big_dog Dec 2014 #12
I hope the Grand Jury in that case brings back an indictment of the officer davidpdx Dec 2014 #19
its really shocking even with police cameras recording the whole thing that they cant get it right big_dog Dec 2014 #23
Good question davidpdx Dec 2014 #38
That made me cry. Feral Child Dec 2014 #45
Of course they did, the whole thing was orchestrated from the beginning! Dustlawyer Dec 2014 #18
They *are* this hateful Feral Child Dec 2014 #41
THEIR (Plutocrats) media will not call them out as the media is complicit. Dustlawyer Dec 2014 #43
Nailed it, Dusty. Feral Child Dec 2014 #44
Have these idiots ever heard of "Let sleeping dogs lie" BlueJazz Dec 2014 #3
The Ferguson PD and the KKK are one and the same, and are itching for a race war. Odin2005 Dec 2014 #48
Really? WTF? blackspade Dec 2014 #4
No kidding. Nothing like adding insult to injury. calimary Dec 2014 #9
This will go well. irisblue Dec 2014 #5
+1 davidpdx Dec 2014 #20
That's the ticket! I_stand_4_oranges Dec 2014 #7
Welcome to DU, I_stand_4_oranges! calimary Dec 2014 #10
these idiots keep trying heaven05 Dec 2014 #8
You nailed it. Any excuse to provoke and justify the killing of more black youths. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2014 #29
What you said. silverweb Dec 2014 #32
Obvious White Supremacists On The Force There billhicks76 Dec 2014 #40
Only reinforces my opinion that generally, cops are arrogant and stupid. n/t cosmicone Dec 2014 #11
Because going after potential disturbers-of-the-peace is the right thing to do! KansDem Dec 2014 #13
excellent point, heaven05 Dec 2014 #31
Motherfucking hypocrisy SpankMe Dec 2014 #14
That bothers me, too. AverageJoe90 Dec 2014 #22
Didn't think that amount of hatred could grow any bigger. Guess I'm all maxed out. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2014 #30
wtf?? PatrynXX Dec 2014 #15
Everything is backwards damnedifIknow Dec 2014 #16
Can they possibly compound this thing any more than it is?? Stupid, stupid, stupid!.... marble falls Dec 2014 #17
OH this should work out well The Jungle 1 Dec 2014 #21
This can't be a surprise. The cops want the black folk dead or on their knees. It will be jtuck004 Dec 2014 #24
Will he get to testify in his defense in front of the grand jury? BluegrassDem Dec 2014 #25
The bigger question is nichomachus Dec 2014 #26
Wow if thet do this gopiscrap Dec 2014 #27
Cops are also after 5 St. Louis Rams players.... hadrons Dec 2014 #28
An investigation is being pursued lovuian Dec 2014 #34
If there was ever an example of "clear and present danger," this is it. candelista Dec 2014 #35
I'm waiting for one of "those" posts to show up on this thread. U4ikLefty Dec 2014 #36
I believe Mr. Head was referring to the courthouse when he said "burn this b**** down." Live and Learn Dec 2014 #37
What a wise move. That's sure to calm things down. Vinca Dec 2014 #42
That's quite a contrast. Trillo Dec 2014 #46
ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME??? Odin2005 Dec 2014 #47
The FBI has arrested a man lovuian Dec 2014 #49
 

big_dog

(4,144 posts)
2. its like the Ferguson Cops are trying to get this going all over again
Tue Dec 2, 2014, 05:56 PM
Dec 2014

Last edited Tue Dec 2, 2014, 08:42 PM - Edit history (2)

especially with the New York Staten Island grand jury decision coming up this week, everyone needs to watch 'Do the Right Thing' a couple of times and take a big freaking pause like Samuel Jackson says

pasto76

(1,589 posts)
33. this is complete "we have to W-I-N" mentality
Tue Dec 2, 2014, 11:49 PM
Dec 2014

chalk up a big FAIL for conflict resolution re: ferguson PD and the state of missouri

Feral Child

(2,086 posts)
6. Watching the "Decision" and aftermath
Tue Dec 2, 2014, 06:04 PM
Dec 2014

I noticed very little attempt to ease the situation.

I noticed that the 1st car to burn was left burning, no firetrucks in sight, for an extremely long time.

Ditto, the burning building the 1st night.

I think an intuitive cop might have suspected a liquor store might be looted, apparently no supervisor did as the looting was ignored. The looters actually looked around for cops for a long time before they went for it. They too seem surprised it wasn't being watched. Off topic, all of those looters appeared to be teens. Pretty sure very few teens are going to turn down free alcohol.


I really think they actively tried to escalate; they wanted trouble to distract from the injustice they perpetrated and to justify the surplus military toys they've acquired. This is just more incitement.

 

big_dog

(4,144 posts)
12. keep your eyes on NY, they had cops in Ferguson trying to prepare for this weeks Grand Jury decision
Tue Dec 2, 2014, 06:16 PM
Dec 2014

In the video above, Eric Garner, a 43-year-old father of six, can be seen arguing with plainclothes NYPD officers on Staten Island. When the officers attempt to handcuff him, Garner asks them not to touch him, and one puts him in a chokehold. Several other officers pile on, slamming Garner into the ground, and he begins complaining that he can't breathe. Now, Eric Garner is dead.

Police allege they saw Garner selling illegal untaxed cigarettes, but witnesses at the scene say he was stopped because he broke up a fight. Either way, the psychological distress the encounter caused him is evident before the cops even lay their hands on him. "Every time you see me, you try to mess with me," he says to the cops at one point. "This stops today."

The New York Daily News spoke to Ramsey Orta, who shot the video, and another witness: "They jumped him and they were choking him. He was foaming at the mouth," Orta told The News. "And that's it, he was done. The cops were saying, 'No, he's OK, he's OK." He wasn't OK."

"They were choking him. He kept saying, 'I can't breathe, I can't breathe! Get off of me, get off of me!' and I didn't hear any more talking after that," said witness Valencia Griffin, 50, of Staten Island. "He died right there."
The NYPD's Internal Affairs division is looking into the incident, according to the Daily News. One I.A. detective spoke with Garner's wife, telling her his office was investigating "because there is wrongdoing." Mayor de Blasio tweeted his condolences.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
19. I hope the Grand Jury in that case brings back an indictment of the officer
Tue Dec 2, 2014, 07:13 PM
Dec 2014

but after the way Micheal Brown's case was handled I tend to think justice won't be served. It's total and complete insanity.

 

big_dog

(4,144 posts)
23. its really shocking even with police cameras recording the whole thing that they cant get it right
Tue Dec 2, 2014, 07:21 PM
Dec 2014

what is wrong with these grand juries?

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
38. Good question
Wed Dec 3, 2014, 02:58 AM
Dec 2014

I have no idea. I've never been on a grand jury nor on a regular jury. The closest I have been was when a consulting firm hired me (and 11 others) as kind of a test jury to present evidence in one of the financial fraud cases around the time of Enron. I believe that was a civil trial, not criminal.

Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
18. Of course they did, the whole thing was orchestrated from the beginning!
Tue Dec 2, 2014, 07:08 PM
Dec 2014

Watching it happen I remarked at the time that they would not have parked a unit on the protestors side of things and left it alone. They claimed to not have anticipated the need for more cops that night, yea right!
I wonder if he will get to tell his GJ his side w/o meaningful cross exam, or at all? (Sarcasm)
The man just lost his son and watched the state do a sham GJ investigation, how was he supposed to feel? Just indict him and let his defense team (lots of great attorney volunteers for that one I bet) investigate what led up to his reaction, after having been the model of patience and peace to that point. Let's interrogate the DA as to how and why he used such an unorthodox approach that involved trying to get an Indictment by putting on a defense for the accused.

Are they this hateful and STUPID?

Feral Child

(2,086 posts)
41. They *are* this hateful
Wed Dec 3, 2014, 09:03 AM
Dec 2014

but sly, not stupid. And we're fucked. They're getting away with this, in plain view. If we don't put a stop to it now, we will never have the chance again.

Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
43. THEIR (Plutocrats) media will not call them out as the media is complicit.
Wed Dec 3, 2014, 10:09 AM
Dec 2014

This helps to keep us fighting each other, meanwhile, back at Wall Street they are still ripping us off. The politics of distraction and displaced anger

 

BlueJazz

(25,348 posts)
3. Have these idiots ever heard of "Let sleeping dogs lie"
Tue Dec 2, 2014, 05:56 PM
Dec 2014

Maybe it's just an excuse to shoot some more protesters

Odin2005

(53,521 posts)
48. The Ferguson PD and the KKK are one and the same, and are itching for a race war.
Wed Dec 3, 2014, 01:22 PM
Dec 2014

They want an excuse to genocide all the black people they see.

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
4. Really? WTF?
Tue Dec 2, 2014, 05:57 PM
Dec 2014

The guy's son gets murdered, the perp walks, and he says one thing, now the cops are after him?

What bullshit.

calimary

(81,251 posts)
10. Welcome to DU, I_stand_4_oranges!
Tue Dec 2, 2014, 06:12 PM
Dec 2014

Glad you're here. That's about all I've got, too. Lordy... I don't know what else can be said, frankly. I'm aghast.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
8. these idiots keep trying
Tue Dec 2, 2014, 06:10 PM
Dec 2014

to incite riots and anger with their white male need to control the black people. The man was angry at his son lying in the street, his body riddled with bullets from wilsonthepigs overkill, for 5 fucking hours. Keep pushing people and they will get to the point that they feel they have nothing to lose, and these racist fucks can go on their orgy of killing all those uppity people in the brown section of ferguson. That I feel is all they want, to assert their white male dominance and masculinity. Hey a lot of people will fight back, losing battle or not. Idiots. Racist pigs from hell! I hope all you burn in hell if there is one.

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
40. Obvious White Supremacists On The Force There
Wed Dec 3, 2014, 04:19 AM
Dec 2014

The cops in the Northeast must be shaking their heads as this makes other good cops look bad.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
31. excellent point,
Tue Dec 2, 2014, 09:14 PM
Dec 2014

this person is acceptable in the amerikkkan apartheid system as a fucking patriot making sure his privilege is not abridged by that brown person in the WH. I just hope that IF he had made a mistake that sniper rifle aimed at him would take this ass out and send him on to his god, the devil..

SpankMe

(2,957 posts)
14. Motherfucking hypocrisy
Tue Dec 2, 2014, 06:34 PM
Dec 2014

So, a guy whose son-in-law was murdered - and the murderer went free - says something that threatens the civil peace (but which could be looked at in other contexts)...and they want to prosecute him for incitement.

And yet, this creepy lady running for US senate in Nevada can suggest that the people could resort to "second amendment remedies" against a Democratically led government; and, those "patriot" militia creeps camped out at Cliven Bundy's ranch can actually point guns at federal agents while Bundy proclaims that God told him to take arms away from federal agents so they couldn't be used against him in a civil war. And not even a hint at prosecution for incitement of any kind.

The staggering moron-ity of it. My hatred for right wingers grows.

 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
22. That bothers me, too.
Tue Dec 2, 2014, 07:21 PM
Dec 2014

Of course, if Louis Head did indeed say that, then that's not good.....at all.

But then again, the Bundy bunch did a lot worse than that, and indeed, they are still free. It seems that law enforcement is too damn afraid of the hardcore RW to prosecute an actual domestic insurrectionist.....yep, things have gone downhill in that regard since 2000, no doubt.

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
15. wtf??
Tue Dec 2, 2014, 06:35 PM
Dec 2014

after the Prosecutor and the Gov both geared things up to incite a riot you wanna charge the stepdad with one? oh that'll help let alone releasing the decision at night. Jay Nixon etc should be charged with inciting a riot. smh

marble falls

(57,081 posts)
17. Can they possibly compound this thing any more than it is?? Stupid, stupid, stupid!....
Tue Dec 2, 2014, 06:54 PM
Dec 2014

Next we'll hear about the prosecutor getting lap-danced at Wilson's retirement party at the local "gentleman's" club.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
24. This can't be a surprise. The cops want the black folk dead or on their knees. It will be
Tue Dec 2, 2014, 07:35 PM
Dec 2014

up to the black folk as to how it plays out.

nichomachus

(12,754 posts)
26. The bigger question is
Tue Dec 2, 2014, 07:44 PM
Dec 2014

whether the prosecutor will testify in his defense like he did for Darren Wilson/

hadrons

(4,170 posts)
28. Cops are also after 5 St. Louis Rams players....
Tue Dec 2, 2014, 08:29 PM
Dec 2014

who held their hands up in solitary with the Brown family ... I wish they would monitor their own so closely.

lovuian

(19,362 posts)
34. An investigation is being pursued
Wed Dec 3, 2014, 12:32 AM
Dec 2014

and we are probably going to get a bigger glimpse on who Michael's stepfather's connections are
thus the interviewing people who were with him


rumors are out there

Folks, this isn't over and I predict more arrests in the future........Investigators .....aren't Ferguson
probably FBI ....maybe Homeland Security....this is Washington folks not Ferguson

 

candelista

(1,986 posts)
35. If there was ever an example of "clear and present danger," this is it.
Wed Dec 3, 2014, 12:43 AM
Dec 2014

Of course it would be unwise to prosecute him.

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
37. I believe Mr. Head was referring to the courthouse when he said "burn this b**** down."
Wed Dec 3, 2014, 02:40 AM
Dec 2014

It wasn't but in light of everything we now know, I am thinking he had a point.

Trillo

(9,154 posts)
46. That's quite a contrast.
Wed Dec 3, 2014, 11:19 AM
Dec 2014

On the one hand, police can gun down folks, literally killing them, without penalty. On the other hand, a citizen saying words can be prosecuted?

Odin2005

(53,521 posts)
47. ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME???
Wed Dec 3, 2014, 01:18 PM
Dec 2014

How is this NOT an obviously political prosecution? The PTB are just angry that Mr. Head is an "uppity n*****" who refuses to "know his place", so he is being punished.

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