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LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 08:30 PM Nov 2014

Mother Jones: Big Mayo Wants You to Know There's Only One Way to Make Mayo, Dammit

http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2014/11/great-mayo-smackdown?google_editors_picks=true

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Last Friday, the Anglo-Dutch mega-conglomerate Unilever, owner of Hellmann's Mayonnaise, filed suit against the vegan upstart Hampton Creek, maker of egg-free Just Mayo, citing "false advertising and unfair competition," and whining claiming that "Just Mayo already is stealing market share from Hellmann's."

Unilever, which long ago swallowed Ben & Jerry's, Breyer's, Lipton, Mrs. Filbert's, Slimfast, Close-Up, Noxzema, Q-Tips, Vaseline, and hundreds of other brands into its multinational maw, argues that "Hampton Creek's materially false and misleading Just Mayo name, packaging, and advertising has caused and unless restrained will continue to cause great and irreparable injury to Unilever." That irreparable injury—for which Unilever requests that Hampton Creek change the name, remove all jars from shelves, and pay Unilever three times damages, plus attorney's fees—comes because Hampton Creek is trying to pass off its eggless goop as mayonnaise, which "damages the entire product category, which has strived for decades for a consistent definition of ‘mayonnaise' that fits with consumer expectations." The FDA, Unilever correctly points out, defines mayonnaise as including an "egg-yolk containing ingredient." Hampton Creek has fired back that, duh, that's why they call their product mayo, not mayonnaise.
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Mother Jones: Big Mayo Wants You to Know There's Only One Way to Make Mayo, Dammit (Original Post) LiberalElite Nov 2014 OP
I love mayo on a sammich shenmue Nov 2014 #1
I've tried a couple - LiberalElite Nov 2014 #2
Just Mayo is delicious. Highly recommended. Luminous Animal Nov 2014 #4
Only Miracle Whip in this house yeoman6987 Nov 2014 #3
Way to sweet for me. Luminous Animal Nov 2014 #6
My extended family SamKnause Nov 2014 #8
I think you are right it is sweeter for sure. yeoman6987 Nov 2014 #9
I grew up on Miracle Whip nt LiberalElite Nov 2014 #10
There is no fucking such thing as vegan mayo. longship Nov 2014 #13
I agree alarimer Nov 2014 #16
Reminds me of dairy substitutes, mainly soy. longship Nov 2014 #17
They should rename it Better than MAYO! 4139 Nov 2014 #5
lol. That's actually a winning idea. Renew Deal Nov 2014 #11
Hypocrisy, thy name is Hellmann's unrepentant progress Nov 2014 #7
Funny Renew Deal Nov 2014 #12
I like Mayonnaise. imthevicar Nov 2014 #14
Love mayonnaise, but I'm still siding with the little guy here beerandjesus Nov 2014 #15

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
2. I've tried a couple -
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 08:36 PM
Nov 2014

up till now Veganaise was IT for me - ruined me for Nasoya. Now I want to try Just Mayo. Thanks, Unilever!

SamKnause

(13,101 posts)
8. My extended family
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 09:35 PM
Nov 2014

thinks Miracle Whip taste like mayonnaise with sugar added.

None of us like it.

We are a Hellman's family.

I nicknamed Miracle Whip, Sissy Whip.

I do not mean this post to be offensive in any way.

It's nice to have choices.

Have a great evening.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
9. I think you are right it is sweeter for sure.
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 09:43 PM
Nov 2014

Part of my sweet tooth...

You have a great night as well!

longship

(40,416 posts)
13. There is no fucking such thing as vegan mayo.
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 11:20 PM
Nov 2014

Vegans don't eat eggs, and one cannot make mayo without eggs. Check the recipe some time.

Clear case of fraudulent advertisement.

Fuck Real Mayo. It ain't real, and it ain't Mayo. (Neither is Krapp Miracle Whip -- called that because it ain't Mayonnaise.)

They deserve to lose this case.

I suggest renaming it Vegan Salad Dressing. Or maybe, Genuine Vegan Artificial Mayonnaise-Type Substitute. But that would be marketing it honestly.

If you want real mayo just buy the jar of mayonnaise, or make your own from scratch. (You'll have to crack a few eggs.)

alarimer

(16,245 posts)
16. I agree
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 11:51 AM
Nov 2014

the very definition of mayonnaise includes the use of eggs.

They could call it Fake Mayo, which is what it is.

I'm still not sure Unilever has a case. I think people know the difference between fake mayo and the real thing.

I don't trust most vegan substitutes for things. Most of them are terrible.

longship

(40,416 posts)
17. Reminds me of dairy substitutes, mainly soy.
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 04:43 PM
Nov 2014

I am an omnivore, but have a really low tolerance for dairy for the past several years.

I love Cream of Wheat. In my youth my mother always made it with milk, which makes it extra rich and yummy. I made it with soy milk one time a few years ago and it was totally inedible, tasted like grass. Blecch! Now I just make it with water and eat it with a good dollup of Michigan maple syrup. Yummy!

I found Soy ice cream only tolerable in chocolate flavor, which tastes more like Fudgesicles than ice cream.

Thank goodness that occasional hard cheese is still okay with my system. Other than that, no dairy for me.

Regards.

7. Hypocrisy, thy name is Hellmann's
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 09:23 PM
Nov 2014

Last edited Mon Nov 17, 2014, 11:36 PM - Edit history (1)

Hellmann's Maker Tweaks Site in 'Mayonnaise' Spat

After suing a small California company for calling its product "Just Mayo" because the product is made without eggs, it was discovered that Unilever had tweaked its website to make clear that some of its own products are "mayonnaise dressing," rather than mayonnaise.

Unilever's suit accuses Hampton Creek of false advertising, saying that the word "mayo" implies that the product is mayonnaise, even though it doesn't meet the definition for the product. It says Just Mayo is "stealing market share from Hellmann's.

Michele Simon, a public health lawyer, said she was discussing the case with the founder of Just Mayo this past Friday when they noticed the changes being made on Unilever's websites for Hellmann's and Best Foods.

"They were changing right before our eyes," Simon said.

She said customer reviews were also changed to add the word "dressing" after mayonnaise. The site for Best Foods had also been changed so that "Canola Cholesterol Free Mayonnaise" is now "Canola Cholesterol Free Mayonnaise Dressing."

Source: http://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory/hellmanns-maker-tweaks-site-mayonnaise-spat-26968183
 

imthevicar

(811 posts)
14. I like Mayonnaise.
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 06:28 AM
Nov 2014

When I go to the Restaurant, or Wawa counter, or the local hoagie shop and say, "I want Mayo please!". I expect Mayonnaise. not some goop with Pea extract. Call it something else. It's misleading and deceptive and in one of the few moments i say the following the big corporation is right.

beerandjesus

(1,301 posts)
15. Love mayonnaise, but I'm still siding with the little guy here
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 09:58 AM
Nov 2014

You'll never see that shit in my refrigerator, it's all Duke's since I moved to the South. But that's actually the point: The notion that this damages the Hellman's brand is completely ridiculous.


On a related note: Has anyone else noticed that mayonnaise seems to be the most polarizing of all condiments? I don't think I've ever met anyone who can take it or leave it, people seem to love it or hate it--in contrast with ketchup, mustard, worcestershire sauce, etc.

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