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T_i_B

(14,737 posts)
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 03:58 AM Dec 2014

The Right needs to wake up - climate change is real, and we're causing it

I expect that this will cause the UKIP trolls at the Torygraph to explode with rage...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/earth/environment/11273692/The-Right-needs-to-wake-up-climate-change-is-real-and-were-causing-it.html

Yet you don’t have to be a pro-EU fixie-cycling ethical barista of no fixed gender identity with a piercing through your nose to wake up and smell the coffee. Indeed, you should enjoy the smell of coffee whilst you can, since climate change is having a dramatic impact on the bean crop yields. Bemoaning the ban on filament lightbulbs needs to be seen in the context of widespread food shortages and significant loss of landmass. The cost of renewables to the UK needs to be set against the likely cost of famine, drought, and the expense of keeping an overpopulating planet even remotely peaceful as its food and its land diminish. It will not improve the views from the East Anglian coastline if the coastline itself is eroded.

The deniers argue that any globally coordinated response to this problem will involve ‘socialism’ and EU control, calling many exponents of green policies ‘watermelons’ for being green on the outside and red on the inside. Yet the same people will often argue that unilateral action on climate change would be an expensive waste of time whilst China is still building coal power plants. We can’t work together because it will interfere with freedom – but we can’t act alone because it’s pointless. Even more confusingly, there are too many on the Right who then have a go at private companies for getting into renewable energy. When the socialist-finder generals aren’t calling people watermelons, they are calling out the corporate greed of making a profit from involvement in green energy solutions. Governments are bashed for taking a statist approach to climate change, and corporations for a capitalist one.

There are many dreadful side effects to man-made climate change, though most of them will only be apparent – experts warn – once it is too late to counter them. In trying to act to prevent the worst of it, we are having to tear up parts of our countryside and even get our heads around splitting our rubbish into different forms of recycling. But one of the most irritating and immediate consequences has been from the deniers, particularly on the Right, who, while understandably mistrustful of ideology and consensus, have abandoned the core conservative principle of doing what works and looking at the available evidence. The same populist movements which would abolish the ‘elites’ in politics have decided that an international scientific consensus about complex, long-term changes is no match for their lived experience of yesterday's weather. Despite the best efforts of our Prime Minister in opposition, many on the right are abandoning a commitment to environmentalism as a costly and unproven expenditure.

It’s time for the doubters to surrender, and accept that there is nothing Right-wing about denying the global consensus of a scientific community. At this point too many of us on the Right echo the farcical warning of Stephen Colbert that “reality has a well-known liberal bias.” After all, it isn’t Blofeld’s SPECTRE warning us about climate change - it’s the British boffins in our own Met Office.
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The Right needs to wake up - climate change is real, and we're causing it (Original Post) T_i_B Dec 2014 OP
Fat chance of that BobbyBoring Dec 2014 #1
Looking at the mentality of many denialists T_i_B Dec 2014 #2
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The Right Already Knows Derek V Dec 2014 #4

BobbyBoring

(1,965 posts)
1. Fat chance of that
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 01:28 PM
Dec 2014

They think it's all a hoax propagated by Al Gore. The ultimate get rich quick scheme.
I hope to be around when the truth makes itself undeniable. I will say I told you so with one of my last breaths!

T_i_B

(14,737 posts)
2. Looking at the mentality of many denialists
Fri Dec 5, 2014, 02:27 PM
Dec 2014

I don't think a lot of them have it in them to ever admit to being mistaken about anything, regardless of all evidence to the contrary.

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