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yurbud

(39,405 posts)
11. Republicans go to bat for their members more or less no matter what
Sun May 31, 2015, 02:45 PM
May 2015

Dems fold at the most insubstantial accusation.

red dog 1

(27,799 posts)
2. That link only gets you the first 50 words of Don's opinion piece in the WSJ....
Sat May 30, 2015, 05:11 PM
May 2015

If you want to read the rest, you must take out a paid subscription to the Wall Street Journal

elleng

(130,895 posts)
3. Sorry. I was able to read the entire piece/letter yesterday, and just got it
Sat May 30, 2015, 06:30 PM
May 2015

EDIT: from my original source, facebook:

Regarding your editorials “The Menendez Indictment” (April 16) and “Quid Pro Clinton” (April 24): I am the only governor in the history of American jurisprudence to be sent to jail for “bribery” in a campaign-contribution setting where the contribution was to a state ballot initiative, not to my campaign, there was no charge of self-enrichment and where the judge instructed the jury to convict if the members could “imply” or “infer” a quid pro quo. There was no testimony of a quid pro quo, much less an express one, and no allegation of personal gain or personal benefit. There was “official action.” I reappointed a Fortune 500 CEO to a nonpaying state board to which he had been appointed by three previous governors. I was the fourth. That’s it.

In the McCormick v. U.S. ruling (1991) the U.S. Supreme Court said that in a campaign-contribution setting, because the First Amendment is at play, it takes an “explicit” agreement where the terms of the agreement, swapping a contribution for official action, are “asserted” before one crosses the line from politics to crime.

In run-of-the mill bribery cases where there is personal gain, the law has allowed juries more flexibility to “infer” or “imply” a bribe from circumstantial evidence. In my case, 113 top lawyers told the court: “This case is about criminalization of the First Amendment—the giving and receiving of campaign contribution[s].”

Noted journalist George F. Will wrote of my case: “Until the court clarifies what constitutes quid pro quo political corruption, Americans engage in politics at their peril because prosecutors have dangerous discretion to criminalize politics . . . if bribery can be discerned in a somehow implicit connection between a contribution and an official action, prosecutorial discretion will be vast”

So while at this juncture there has been no allegation of an “explicit” quid pro quo in the case of Sen. Robert Menendez, what will give his lawyers heartburn is while what their client did might have been legal, their client may still end up in jail if his judge adopts my judge’s jury instructions and allows the jury to “infer” or “imply” a corrupt agreement.

Don E. Siegelman

Federal Corrections Center

Oakdale, La.

Mr. Siegelman was governor of Alabama 1999-2003.

red dog 1

(27,799 posts)
4. Thanks for that
Sat May 30, 2015, 07:24 PM
May 2015

I just posted an OP based on an e-mail I got from Don this morning, and I included your OP in it, including the WSJ link.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251409545

elleng

(130,895 posts)
7. Yes indeed.
Sat May 30, 2015, 07:40 PM
May 2015

It's one of the few issues about with I disagree and/or don't understand President Obama.

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
10. Dems in Washington have a nasty habit of throwing their colleagues to the wolves
Sun May 31, 2015, 12:53 PM
May 2015

at the slightest hint of a trumped up charge by Republicans.

If anything, it is more likely that Siegelman wasn't compliant enough to donors rather than the other way around.

 

laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
12. Thanks for this - K&R n Tweeted and... Should be Everywhere
Fri Jun 5, 2015, 10:35 AM
Jun 2015

As one of the select club of victims of our system of justice, there are only a few cases I find worse than our battle against Romney & Goldman Sachs..... That of Jeff Baron and the worse of Governor Siegelman.

Karl Rove and gang have an unreal control over the Alabama federal system of justice.

And we'll never know the real reason why their hate is allowed to be super majority controller of this case.

It sucks the whammy....

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