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Uncle Joe

(64,296 posts)
Sat Sep 19, 2015, 06:56 PM Sep 2015

The Deep State Hiding in Plain Sight

Last edited Tue Sep 22, 2015, 07:18 AM - Edit history (1)



Everyone knows about the military-industrial complex, which, in his farewell address, President Eisenhower warned had the potential to “endanger our liberties or democratic process” but have you heard of the “Deep State?”

Mike Lofgren, a former GOP congressional staff member with the powerful House and Senate Budget Committees, joins Bill to talk about what he calls the Deep State, a hybrid of corporate America and the national security state, which is “out of control” and “unconstrained.” In it, Lofgren says, elected and unelected figures collude to protect and serve powerful vested interests. “It is … the red thread that runs through the history of the last three decades. It is how we had deregulation, financialization of the economy, the Wall Street bust, the erosion or our civil liberties and perpetual war,” Lofgren tells Bill.

Lofgren says the Deep State’s heart lies in Washington, DC, but its tentacles reach out to Wall Street, which Lofgren describes as “the ultimate backstop to the whole operation,” Silicon Valley and over 400,000 contractors, private citizens who have top-secret security clearances. Like any other bureaucracy, it’s groupthink that drives the Deep State.

In conjunction with this week’s show, Mike Lofgren has written an exclusive essay, “Anatomy of the Deep State.”


http://billmoyers.com/episode/the-deep-state-hiding-in-plain-sight/



The transcript and video of the Moyer's interview are on the link.
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The Deep State Hiding in Plain Sight (Original Post) Uncle Joe Sep 2015 OP
The good(?) news is... Binkie The Clown Sep 2015 #1
Why the F can't they realize that? Duppers Sep 2015 #7
K & R for an extremely important (and chilling) interview RufusTFirefly Sep 2015 #2
Thank you, RufusTFirefly. Uncle Joe Sep 2015 #3
K&R! This post deserves hundreds of recommendations! Enthusiast Sep 2015 #4
Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2015 #9
K&R nt 99th_Monkey Sep 2015 #5
This is an important watch for anyone what is/has destroyed the progression of US Democracy. newthinking Sep 2015 #6
The work of Marvin Harris (cultural anthro) describes this in a better way, I think kristopher Sep 2015 #8

Binkie The Clown

(7,911 posts)
1. The good(?) news is...
Sat Sep 19, 2015, 07:13 PM
Sep 2015

...that climate change will kill them just about as quickly as it kills the rest of us. Problem solved.

Duppers

(28,467 posts)
7. Why the F can't they realize that?
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 02:31 PM
Sep 2015

They think they'll be dead before feeling much impact? If that's the case, then it's an admission that they don't give a rat's about their children or grands. Heartless pieces of human slime they are.

Or are they just dumber than dirt?





Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
4. K&R! This post deserves hundreds of recommendations!
Sat Sep 19, 2015, 09:36 PM
Sep 2015

I don't even have to read this. It has become so clear. This cabal can be knocked off, be broken up. Exposed to the light of day this Deep State system could be destroyed.

The American people have recognized there is a fundamental problem. I think these Deep State fuckers days are numbered. The snowball is rolling downhill.

Response to Enthusiast (Reply #4)

newthinking

(3,982 posts)
6. This is an important watch for anyone what is/has destroyed the progression of US Democracy.
Sat Sep 19, 2015, 10:51 PM
Sep 2015

Thanks for the link!

kristopher

(29,798 posts)
8. The work of Marvin Harris (cultural anthro) describes this in a better way, I think
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 05:38 PM
Sep 2015

The book to look for is Cultural Materialism, Random House, 1979.

You'll not find it new, but there's a supply of used available.

I refer those interested to Chap 3, Theoretical Principles of Cultural Materialism and his description of the universal structure of sociocultural systems (p.51).

The elements you'll want to fit into your understanding for this issue are "political economy" and "domestic economy".

This provides a far more clear picture of the conflict we are experiencing than can be had from the more coarse view embodied in the capitalism vs socialism dynamic.

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