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bobthedrummer

(26,083 posts)
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 06:08 PM Jan 2016

Eagle and Swastika: CIA and Nazi War Criminals and Collaborators (Kevin Conley Ruffner April 2003

CIA pdf)
Some of US will NEVER FORGET, will we? Lots of declassified intelligence data-dumps lately. This working draft for The Agency's History Department is another bit of the truth that is finally coming out. Truth that was withheld from we, the people for generations.
But not from the rest of the world.

Once a CIA SECRET Draft Working Paper
https://cryptome.org/2016/01/cia-nazi-collaboration.pdf

Who would like to put a spotlight on those NAZI's in the Republican Heritage Groups of the BFEE??? How about NASA???

I hate all them fascists, don't you?

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Eagle and Swastika: CIA and Nazi War Criminals and Collaborators (Kevin Conley Ruffner April 2003 (Original Post) bobthedrummer Jan 2016 OP
Back at you: FBI 2006 Report, "White Supremacist Infiltration of Law Enforcement" 99th_Monkey Jan 2016 #1
G.H.W. Bush used Nazi-Collaborators to get Elected (Russ Bellant 1988 pdf) bobthedrummer Jan 2016 #2
9 Nazi Scientists Who Helped Build The American Space Program (Jeremy Bender 2/14 Business Insider) bobthedrummer Jan 2016 #3
The Devils Chessboard Fuddnik Jan 2016 #4
Lev Dobriansky of the Ukrainian Congress Committee of America starroute Jan 2016 #5
One learns something everyday-thanks starroute. I think Laili Helms and Paula Dobriansky were bobthedrummer Jan 2016 #6
Koch Daddy and the Nazis, a Revealing History from Jane Mayer (Lisa Graves January 12, 2016 CMD) bobthedrummer Jan 2016 #7
What Cold War CIA Interrogators Learned From The NAZIS (DU 2014) bobthedrummer Jan 2016 #8
this also tells us the elite justification for US in World War II was very different from the rest yurbud Jan 2016 #9
It goes far beyond logic, doesn't it? Allen Welsh Dulles was part of that elite. He passed away on bobthedrummer Jan 2016 #10
Rev Moon and Klaus Barbie put the sulphury touch on CIA and BFEE Octafish Jan 2016 #11
I like Diego Rivera's artwork better then what that crew is posed with, don't you? n/t bobthedrummer Jan 2016 #12
The Dulles brothers used this one as a Christmas card... Octafish Jan 2016 #13
A lot of extreme RW spooks formed alliances that crossed borders in the Cold War. bobthedrummer Feb 2016 #14
 

bobthedrummer

(26,083 posts)
3. 9 Nazi Scientists Who Helped Build The American Space Program (Jeremy Bender 2/14 Business Insider)
Mon Jan 11, 2016, 07:09 PM
Jan 2016
http://www.businessinsider.com/nazi-scientists-space-program-2014-2

Then there are the US NAZI medical professionals, still very much with US, aren't they? I hate them all, don't you?

How about the eugenics Nazis? I'd say US Nazis all contributed heavily to this "Death to America" blowback-wouldn't you?

starroute

(12,977 posts)
5. Lev Dobriansky of the Ukrainian Congress Committee of America
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 02:26 AM
Jan 2016

The UCCA was an umbrella organization for Ukrainian-American groups in the 1980s that was heavily influenced by the fascist Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists-Bandera and included members that were pure OUN-B fronts.

Its chairman, Lev Dobriansky, who had been an OSS officer in Germany during World War II was appointed US ambassador to the Bahamas by the Reagan administration in 1983. Before that, he had been on the advisory board of William Buckley's Young Americans for Freedom, was a founder of the American-Chilean Council, which was a propaganda front for the Pinochet regime, and was chairman of the National Captive Nations Committee.

His daughter, Paula Dobriansky, was on the National Security Council in the 1980s. In the 1990s, she was a prominent Neocon and PNACer and was on the board of the National Endowment for Democracy. She then served in the George W. Bush administration as Undersecretary of State for Global Affairs and was involved in an early push for regime change in Syria.

 

bobthedrummer

(26,083 posts)
6. One learns something everyday-thanks starroute. I think Laili Helms and Paula Dobriansky were
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 04:26 PM
Jan 2016

more than fellow traveling fascist gal pals back in the day. Of course Richard Helms (also former OSS) cut his intelligence community teeth on other things, including letting the Nazis involved in MK ULTRA/MK SEARCH etc. go beyond the pale against the enemies of freedom

I guess Laili still resides in NJ. Who else remembers the Taliban's US public relations person/fascist without portfolio?
The Accidental Operative (Camelia Fard & James Ridgeway June 12, 2001 Village Voice)
http://www.villagevoice.com/news/the-accidental-operative-6415598

Chapter 21-Omaha
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1016139460


 

bobthedrummer

(26,083 posts)
7. Koch Daddy and the Nazis, a Revealing History from Jane Mayer (Lisa Graves January 12, 2016 CMD)
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 04:05 PM
Jan 2016

I knew he made $ from those facilities he built for Stalin before he became a founding member of the John Birch Society-but this is, indeed, quite revealing!

http://www.prwatch.org/news/2016/01/13014/koch-daddy-and-nazis-revealing-timeline

 

bobthedrummer

(26,083 posts)
8. What Cold War CIA Interrogators Learned From The NAZIS (DU 2014)
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 04:09 PM
Jan 2016

This is a highly informative thread for the real DU reality-based community and all who love the Truth. It belongs in this thread too. There is ongoing "debate"about releasing the full Torture Report to we, the people. No wonder that the hatred of US citizens like you and me is growing 24/7.

Torture continues to be done in our name. Thanks to a lot of them NAZIS that were brought into our country and given identities and careers in National Security and a lot of other professions.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/101685134

Well, I HATE TOO, I HATE all them fascists, don't you?

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
9. this also tells us the elite justification for US in World War II was very different from the rest
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 04:44 PM
Jan 2016

of us.

The rest of us were rightly outraged by fascism.

But could the financial elite have really been outraged too if they turned on a dime from fighting fascism to not only using former Nazis but installing fascists regimes wherever American business interests felt threatened by democracy?

 

bobthedrummer

(26,083 posts)
10. It goes far beyond logic, doesn't it? Allen Welsh Dulles was part of that elite. He passed away on
Tue Jan 26, 2016, 03:56 PM
Jan 2016

January 29, 1969. Imho Prof. Paul S. Cutter's Architects Of The Cold War has one of the more informative articles about him re: his many connections to fascism.

Allen Welsh Dulles (Cutter pdf)
https://wikileaks.org/gifiles/attach/48/48237_Allen%20Welsh%20Dulles,3.pdf

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
11. Rev Moon and Klaus Barbie put the sulphury touch on CIA and BFEE
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 09:02 PM
Jan 2016


Hitler’s Shadow Reaches toward Today

From the Archive: U.S. history took a dark turn in the aftermath of World War II as the Truman administration judged the Soviet Union and socialism bigger threats than the remnants of Nazism and other right-wing ideologies. So, Official Washington protected some of the world’s worst killers, Robert Parry reported in 2010.

By Robert Parry
ConsortiumNews, (Originally published on Dec. 17, 2010)

The U.S. government protected Nazi war criminal Klaus Barbie in the years after World War II and later unleashed the infamous Butcher of Lyon on South America by aiding his escape from French war-crimes prosecutors, according to a report issued by the National Archives in 2010.

The report, entitled “Hitler’s Shadow,” concentrates on the decisions by the U.S. Army’s Counterintelligence Corps to use Barbie and other ex-Nazis for early Cold War operations, but other work by investigative journalists and government investigators has shown how Barbie’s continued allegiance to Nazi ideology contributed to the spread of right-wing extremism in Latin America.

With his skills as an intelligence operative and his expertise in state terror, Barbie helped shape the particularly vicious style of anti-communism that dominated South America for most of the Cold War. He also played a role in building a conduit for drug proceeds to fund right-wing paramilitary operations, including Ronald Reagan’s beloved Nicaraguan Contra rebels.

In 1980, Barbie used his perch in Bolivian intelligence to organize an alliance of military leaders and cocaine barons to overthrow Bolivia’s democratically elected leftist government in a bloody coup. Though fitting with Washington’s distrust of left-wing populist governments in South America, the so-called Cocaine Coup had other long-term consequences for the United States.

Bolivia’s coup regime ensured a reliable flow of coca to Colombia’s Medellin cartel, which quickly grew into a sophisticated conglomerate for smuggling cocaine into the United States. Some of those drug profits then went to finance right-wing paramilitary operations, including the CIA-backed Contras, according to other U.S. government investigations.

Barbie reportedly collaborated, too, with representatives of Rev. Sun Myung Moon’s Unification Church as they worked with Bolivia’s Cocaine Coup regime to organize anti-communist operations in South America. By then, the region had become a center for Moon’s global money-laundering operations. In 1982, Moon began pouring hundreds of millions of his mysterious dollars into the right-wing Washington Times newspaper to influence U.S. politics.

CONTINUED...

https://consortiumnews.com/2013/06/06/hitlers-shadow-reaches-toward-today/

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
13. The Dulles brothers used this one as a Christmas card...
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 06:52 PM
Jan 2016


Diego Rivera: Glorious Victory!

Mark Vallens
Art for Change
Friday, October 05, 2007

EXCERPT…

Painted in 1954, the mockingly titled Glorious Victory has as its subject the infamous CIA coup of the same year that overthrew Guatemala’s democratically elected government. At the center of the mural, CIA Director John Foster Dulles can be seen shaking hands with the leader of the coup d'état, Colonel Castillo Armas. Sitting at their feet is an anthropomorphized bomb bearing the smiling face of U.S. President Dwight D. Eisenhower - who gave orders to launch the military coup. In the background, a priest can be seen officiating over the massacre of workers, many of which can be seen lying slaughtered in the painting’s foreground.



The head of the Central Intelligence Agency at the time of the coup, Allen Dulles, and the U.S. Ambassador to Guatemala during the coup, John Peurify, are depicted handing out money to various Guatemalan military commanders and fascist junta officials, as Mexican Indian workers slave away at loading bananas onto a United Fruit Company ship. I might add that Allen Dulles was on the board of directors of the United Fruit Company when the U.S. overthrew the government of Guatemala.

CONTINUED…

http://art-for-a-change.com/blog/2007/10/diego-rivera-glorious-victory.html

"Allen was delighted with the way Glorious Victory portrayed him and proudly handed out small-format copies." -- Stephen Kinzer, "The Brothers: John Foster Dulles, Allen Dulles, and Their Secret World War"

https://books.google.com/books?id=LVb4-1l1gF4C&pg=PT393&lpg=PT393&dq=kinzer+the+brothers+dulles+diego+rivera&source=bl&ots=oAzpiYDehY&sig=f_qxzSRtbNna7xjgv6CoOpAMfMs&hl=en&sa=X&ei=duIJVbzFG_WCsQSY3IKABA&ved=0CEYQ6AEwBg#v=onepage&q=kinzer%20the%20brothers%20dulles%20diego%20rivera&f=false

Like the NAZIs, what Capitalism's Invisible Army wants, they get. Like Guatemala's land. Like Iraq's oil.

 

bobthedrummer

(26,083 posts)
14. A lot of extreme RW spooks formed alliances that crossed borders in the Cold War.
Thu Feb 4, 2016, 05:43 PM
Feb 2016

What do you think they rallied around, DU?

Rogue Agents: The Cercle and the 6I in the Private Cold War 1951-1991 4th & Final Edition (David Teacher 2015 pdf via Cryptome)

https://cryptome.org/2015/12/Rogue-Agents-4th-edition.pdf

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